question for GH15

[no one]

need your opinion on something...

lets take frank sepe for example. the guy has monsterous size, then decided to to the fitness model route. what compounds do you think he used to shrink down and in what doses, over how long would it take in order to keep fullness and size- meaning how long would it take to go from where he was competing to where he is now, and what compounds does he use to maintain that look now that he's there? obviously GH is huge here. maybe low dose test and gh year round? a little var, clen and winnie to harden up for a shoot?

very curious about this as everyone seems to be preoccupied with getting 'bigger' what if you want to go the other route? the thing is for myself, im done with looking the way i do. not just done with the look, ive got a greater focus on my over all health now too. i stopped insulin 3 years ago to prevent palumboism- this is a very real fear of mine. im now at a point where i really want to down size but still want to look great. i honestly thought it would happen on this prep im doing but ive gone the other way. downsizing HAS to be reliant on chemical intake and dosage dependant cause even dieting if your taking in too much gear you're still going to grow.

whats the trick here? im at a point where i can still pull it back and look good. im on that apex of being able to scale back and look good or just be imo too big for what i prefer.

also would he train differently now? is this a factor?

[Game Time]

I have no exp in this so don't listen to me :S

I would ASSUME cutting back on drugs (TRT dose) lowering the cals upping the cardio would do the trick. Are you looking to keep most of your strength? I'm not sure there is a best way to go about this other than the basic; lower the does, lower the cals, up the cardio.

Or if things get bad go the Tom Prince route  ...I'm kidding don't do that

[muscularny]

sepe has a face thats fits the fitness model business, same goes for guys like sagi kalev and the many others, no clue who u are but unlike pro bbing, face in fitness aspect of things does matter.

many fitness guys take gh 4iu day+test 200mg week thats it (real stuff) some throw in winny or var (var for those who can afford to buy and cant afford to lose their hair) also they follow a decent diet.

there is def more money in that and most of the planet appreciate that look versus the pro bbing look

[no one]

I have no exp in this so don't listen to me :S

I would ASSUME cutting back on drugs (TRT dose) lowering the cals upping the cardio would do the trick. Are you looking to keep most of your strength? I'm not sure there is a best way to go about this other than the basic; lower the does, lower the cals, up the cardio.

Or if things get bad go the Tom Prince route  ...I'm kidding don't do that

dont care about strength. the way i train now isnt even reliant on strength. using a lot of high rep work now with partials and static holds.

[Stavios]

sepe has a face thats fits the fitness model business, same goes for guys like sagi kalev and the many others, no clue who u are but unlike pro bbing, face in fitness aspect of things does matter.

many fitness guys take gh 4iu day+test 200mg week thats it (real stuff) some throw in winny or var (var for those who can afford to buy and cant afford to lose their hair) also they follow a decent diet.

there is def more money in that and most of the planet appreciate that look versus the pro bbing look

guys like sagi kalev are still huge tho, don't believe for a second they don't take that much drugs


Sepe isn't very big nowadays tho

[dyslexic]

Cutting down on poundages, working faster, more cardio, less food, less dope, more man-love and increased used panty sales.

wouldn't take long.

[Cleanest Natural]

the way you talk you look great now ... I am sure you can find a picture to shut everyone up

you know in the past every single big mouth turned out a dussapoint

[no one]

sepe has a face thats fits the fitness model business, same goes for guys like sagi kalev and the many others, no clue who u are but unlike pro bbing, face in fitness aspect of things does matter.

many fitness guys take gh 4iu day+test 200mg week thats it (real stuff) some throw in winny or var (var for those who can afford to buy and cant afford to lose their hair) also they follow a decent diet.

there is def more money in that and most of the planet appreciate that look versus the pro bbing look

lol i have a face like a can of smashed assholes. my motivations for doing this are aesthetic and health oriented, not to make money or model. lol

[no one]

the way you talk you look great now ... I am sure you can find a picture to shut everyone up

you know in the past every single big mouth turned out a dussapoint

good thing im not here to impress then.

[Cleanest Natural]

good thing im not here to impress then.

you felt the need in the past to underline how big and cut you are etc etc

so you contradict yourself

[no one]

guys like sagi kalev are still huge tho, don't believe for a second they don't take that much drugs


Sepe isn't very big nowadays tho

im curious about this too. they have to have some kind of drug limit/ ceiling, else then they'd gain too much size possibly? fucked if i know. im sure they are on gh/ low dose test year round. no cycling for these guys, which suits me fine.

[Cleanest Natural]

make sure before you start to look like Sepe  that you save a few pics when you were a 250 lbs at 6% monster

[no one]

you felt the need in the past to underline how big and cut you are etc etc

so you contradict yourself

listen sebastian. it is what it is. dont believe me, thats great. believe me, thats great. get it- your opinion doesnt matter to me. get over it already. fuck, no wonder you need prostitutes- no girl would ever date someone who's as needy and whiny as you.

[muscularny]

guys like sagi kalev are still huge tho, don't believe for a second they don't take that much drugs


Sepe isn't very big nowadays tho

huge can mean many different things to many different people, id guess hes about 5'8 180 - 185

[no one]

make sure before you start to look like Sepe   that you save a few pics when you were a 250 lbs at 6% monster

i'll be sure to do that. thanks for the reminder.

does it bother you so bad to know i am something you'll never be? like, ever? obviously it does.

heres a secret, so you dont resent me anymore- im going to help you be me, ok? first start training for 5 years and get a good base naturally before you touch the sauce. then cycle using the least amounts you can to still grow. then once that amount doesnt promote growth, up the dose. then after 5 years of cycling safely and running out of gains, start using low dose test year round, for 6-7 years. around this time get very familiar with humalog and humulin r. then maybe 2-3 times a year throw in some other compounds, and up the boost. then once you get into year 5, start GH. all the while, keeping the same dedication to eatiing and training.

then after all that time when you've managed to put on 10 pounds cause all you can afford to eat is cabbage maybe you can start your own thread asking how to downsize.

hope this helps.

[Cleanest Natural]

listen sebastian. it is what it is. dont believe me, thats great. believe me, thats great. get it- your opinion doesnt matter to me. get over it already. fuck, no wonder you need prostitutes- no girl would ever date someone who's as needy and whiny as you.

you opened your mouth..talked shit ... and you cannot back it up .. simple as that ... change your tampon hun

[Cleanest Natural]

lol .... translation: I look like shit but if I talk loud enough on the internet people will believe me

[no one]

you opened your mouth..talked shit ... and you cannot back it up .. simple as that ... change your tampon hun

i open my mouth. and i talk shit. all day. every day. and im going to keep talking shit. for a loooong time. so id suggest you get used to it, cause there not a whole lot you, or anyone can to do about it.

it must suck feeling so powerless and frail in front of the menacing force known only as the great 'no one'.

maybe start a support group via pm with josh, alice23, groin, simply stooge, apenis and the rest of you who cant handle it. talk about it, romanian. open up. share your pain. you'll all feel better.

[Cleanest Natural]

i open my mouth. and i talk shit. all day. every day. and im going to keep talking shit. for a loooong time. so id suggest you get used to it, cause there not a whole lot you, or anyone can to do about it.

it must suck feeling so powerless and frail in front of the menacing force known only as the great 'no one'.

maybe start a support group via pm with josh, alice23, groin, simply stooge, apenis and the rest of you who cant handle it. talk about it, romanian. open up. share your pain. you'll all feel better.

[kushtestgrowth]

the difference between sagi kalev and the kid kuclo is dosages of trenbolona instead of 75mg eod, you do 100mg ed, instead of gh at 4iuona u do 15 iu ,add slin,,,, and thats the diff between them,,, very simple concept fellas..... diff between you and the kid kuclo is wen you wake up at 5 am and hands are swollen and tingly you get scared and dont inject gh for a day, wen this happen to the kid kuclo he go in bathroom and inject 3 more iu's,

[Stavios]

huge can mean many different things to many different people, id guess hes about 5'8 180 - 185

a bit bigger

I know a lot of guys who take a lot of gear to look worst than that

[WillGrant]

Didn't he just switch to a higher anabolic to androgen ratio with GH and other fat burners plus changed eatting and training and added a fuckload of cardio - oh and the most important change when he switched over was metRX