Smoking Banned Inside Santa Monica Residences

[Hugo Chavez]

Smoking is already banned at beaches, parks, restaurants and near buildings in Santa Monica, but Tuesday night the city council sought to expand that prohibition and voted 4-2 to ban smoking for all new tenants of apartments and condos inside their residences – with one exception.

“It also requires existing residents to designate their units as smoking or non smoking and from then on it will be prohibited to smoke in a non smoking unit,” said Adam Radinksy, head of the Consumer Protection Unit in Santa Monica.


http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Santa-Monica-City-Council-Smoking-Ban-Condos-Apartments-Home-Cigarettes-Public-Health-Consumer-Protection-Unit-162173085.html

[240 is Back]

if you agree to the terms of this lease - what's the problem?

if I own a home or condo and choose to put in the lease "NON SMOKING HOME" - that's fine, isn't it?  I will have probably 1/2 as many people willing to rent, which will cost me $, but that might be worth it to me.

[Hugo Chavez]

if you agree to the terms of this lease - what's the problem?

if I own a home or condo and choose to put in the lease "NON SMOKING HOME" - that's fine, isn't it?  I will have probably 1/2 as many people willing to rent, which will cost me $, but that might be worth it to me.

It's not the building owner drawing up the lease.  Anybody can make their apartments smoke free in any state.  This is the city dictating to the building owner what their smoking policy is going to be.

[240 is Back]

It's not the building owner drawing up the lease.  Anybody can make their apartments smoke free in any state.  This is the city dictating to the building owner what their smoking policy is going to be.

ah.   well, it's the state level.  People on getbig said romneycare and AWB was okay in Mass because that's what the politicians (elected by the majority) wanted.

I dont see how this is any different.

[Hugo Chavez]

ah.   well, it's the state level.  People on getbig said romneycare and AWB was okay in Mass because that's what the politicians (elected by the majority) wanted.

I dont see how this is any different.

it's city level and I didn't say that about Romney Care. 

[Soul Crusher]

Ill be totally honest, im not for banning shit \, but it is fucking annoying as hell.  

I have one piece of shit from albania who stands outside the building and smokes every day and it gets into everything.  The board has warned this block head many times but he is too lazy to walk accross the street to smoke since smoking in the apartments upstairs is illegal.  

[240 is Back]

it's city level and I didn't say that about Romney Care. 

not you.  The 'constitutional conservatives' of getbig 

[Shockwave]

not you.  The 'constitutional conservatives' of getbig 

The fact that you dont see a difference between a city mandating people that they cant smoke inside a residence, and a state level AWB (which isnt really much a ban at all), is pretty telling.

[240 is Back]

The fact that you dont see a difference between a city mandating people that they cant smoke inside a residence, and a state level AWB (which isnt really much a ban at all), is pretty telling.

no, it's really not.

i dont smoke, and I hate smoke, but it disgusts me to see 51% of the population telling the other 49% what they can do to their body.

just like it disgusts me to se 99% of population take away the rights of 1 man to buy a rifle.  See: Mass.

Romney caved to the libs.  Anyone who is "severely conservative" would tell the libs to piss off.  Do you think Rom paul would say "well, 51% of voters want me to take away guns, so let's do this thang" ?

[Shockwave]

no, it's really not.

i dont smoke, and I hate smoke, but it disgusts me to see 51% of the population telling the other 49% what they can do to their body.

just like it disgusts me to se 99% of population take away the rights of 1 man to buy a rifle.  See: Mass.

Romney caved to the libs.  Anyone who is "severely conservative" would tell the libs to piss off.  Do you think Rom paul would say "well, 51% of voters want me to take away guns, so let's do this thang" ?

Romney is not Paul, and Paul would never have gotten elected in Mass.
There is a reason that individual states have the rights to implement things like this, but the Federal government does not. If you dont understand that, Im not wasting my time explaining it to you.

[GigantorX]

Romney is not Paul, and Paul would never have gotten elected in Mass.
There is a reason that individual states have the rights to implement things like this, but the Federal government does not. If you dont understand that, Im not wasting my time explaining it to you.

Well said.

There  is a difference between a state governor running his state and President/Congress running the U.S.

[240 is Back]

Romney is not Paul, and Paul would never have gotten elected in Mass.
There is a reason that individual states have the rights to implement things like this, but the Federal government does not. If you dont understand that, Im not wasting my time explaining it to you.

Jesse ventura wouldn't have enacted a GUN BAN.   Christie either.

Romney was a lib, plain and simple.

[Shockwave]

Jesse ventura wouldn't have enacted a GUN BAN.   Christie either.

Romney was a lib, plain and simple.

He's a RHINO, we all know that. That isnt the point either.
You "lol" at us constitutionalists, but its clear you dont know WTF youre talking about.

Speaking of Paul, you argued "why dont the Fed's have the right to enact a nationwide AWB when they control abortion?", but you seemed to fail to realize that Paul thinks that abortion should be a state level issue as well, so you have a terrible example.

[Hugo Chavez]

Jesse ventura wouldn't have enacted a GUN BAN.   Christie either.

Romney was a lib, plain and simple.

Romney is the ultimate example of a politician who is what he needs to be for any given moment...  That quality burned Kerry.

At any rate, this thread is about the question of it being ok for the city to dictate smoking policy for private property owners.  That's the question that needs answered here. 

[Shockwave]

Romney is the ultimate example of a politician who is what he needs to be for any given moment...  That quality burned Kerry.

At any rate, this thread is about the question of it being ok for the city to dictate smoking policy for private property owners.  That's the question that needs answered here. 

Im not really sure... I dont like the idea at all. Id be more for the decision be left to the building owners.
I dont know about the legality of it either, it seems wrong to me to be able to tell people what legal activities they can do inside their own home. Whats next? Banning drinking alcohol in your own home?