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Re: Police buries criminal history of Trayvon Martin
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2013, 07:11:29 AM »
I don't like that people can create violent situations then smirk and say "I was just defending myself!"

I mean, I can load up twin glocks, walk around a bad neighborhood at midnight, and insult people's dead grandmothers until someone knocks me down - then I can shoot their brains out becuase "I feared for my life!!"   

Or I can load up twin glocks, and chase some punk ass kids 2 blocks... scare the fcking crap outta them... And if they dare to put a hand on me after chasing them, I can shoot them in the heart.  It'll be glorious, right?


Zimm created a deadly situation.  People can't just do that.

I've said from the start that Zimmerman made a clear error in judgement by pursuing Martin.  How much of a piece of shit Martin may or may not have been is irrelevent.  
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Re: Police buries criminal history of Trayvon Martin
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2013, 07:17:32 AM »
YES!!!

Zimm's story is that he was calm and walking back, and trayvon went from being the one fleeing, to the one attacking.

To accept zimm's story - we have to accept that the behavior of BOTH MEN changed in that one minute.  I don't think a jury will think that.  THere is no denying zimm was running after, and trayvon was running away.  SUDDENLY ***BOTH*** of these factors changed?   Doesn't pass the smell test.

Exactly.  Clearly puts Martin as the one under direct threat.  As far as Martin knew he was being pursued by a complete stranger for what he could only assume were nefarious reasons. 
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Re: Police buries criminal history of Trayvon Martin
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2013, 07:27:13 AM »
Exactly.  Clearly puts Martin as the one under direct threat.  As far as Martin knew he was being pursued by a complete stranger for what he could only assume were nefarious reasons. 

yes - rainy night, an adult chases you for 2 blocks... Some believe Zimm was able to catch Trayvon by circling thru the yard and intercepting him.  Trayvon was making a direct beeline for his GF's dad's house.  I don't see zimm catching him by staying on the street, and it's entirely possible that an armed neighborhood watch captain would cut thru the yards in order to reach trayvon faster.

PLUS, zimm was wearing a 9mm, inside waist band.  It's very difficult to run without your hand on a gun, using IWB holster.  Did trayvon see the gun?  Did he see hand on holster?  Either way, he had already been chased 2 blocks.  If it's night time... and some armed dude has been chasing me 2 blocks while cursing and calling me an asshole/punk... Then he cuts thru yards and confronts me so I can't reach my destination - YES, I'm defending myself.

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Re: Police buries criminal history of Trayvon Martin
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2013, 07:39:13 AM »
If another negro had popped Martin, this wouldn't even be a story.

Or had they not originally confused the Hispanic shooter with a white boy, this wouldn't even be a story either.

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Re: Police buries criminal history of Trayvon Martin
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2013, 09:07:36 AM »
As anyone can see by the responses to these threads, there is good chance that a person who would be on his jury may choose to believe Zimmerman.  No doubt about it.  And while prosecutors do NOT need to "prove" the story must be false, they will presumably do their best to do exactly that, with anything that would contradict it--anything at all.  They will also presumably do their best to show that he is inclined to lie.  They'll try to make it as difficult as possible for a person to accept his word.

And to those who would be inclined to deny his story, because there are plenty of those people, too, the prosecutor will take them down a timeline of sorts, asking them to logically put the events together.  The fact that Zimmerman overwhelmingly desired to have this person questioned, the fact that he was known to have directed himself toward Martin, the fact that such activity would logically place him into the immediate vicinity of a person whom it has been said was physically superior to Zimmerman.  The net result being a situation to cause both individuals to become fearful for their lives.

Please remember the definition of the charge, which is a creation of an imminently dangerous situation while revealing a disregard for life.  (In other words, being an impulsive dipstick will absolutely qualify - with NO premeditation, as some are convinced must be true).

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Re: Police buries criminal history of Trayvon Martin
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2013, 02:38:55 PM »
BOYS IN THE HOODIES
 
Police buried Trayvon's criminal history
 
Exclusive: Jack Cashill exposes fact 'good kid' Martin should have been arrested twice
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Some deaths are more politically useful than others.
 
Twenty years ago this week, the Clinton administration ordered a tank assault on the Mount Carmel community, killing 39 racial minorities, 26 of them black. The Clintons and the media suppressed the racial data so rigorously that I doubt even Al Sharpton knows about the black dead at Waco.
 





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A year ago Feb. 26, neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Fla., and within a month every sentient person on the planet knew “Trayvon” by name.
 
What they did not know was Martin’s background. Sanford Police Department (SPD) investigator Chris Serino, for instance, said publicly of Martin, “This child has no criminal record whatsoever.” He called Martin “a good kid, a mild-mannered kid.” The media almost universally sustained this tragically false narrative.
 
Martin had the seeming good fortune of attending school in the Miami-Dade School District, the fourth-largest district in the country and one of the few with its own police department.
 
For a variety of reasons, none of them good, elements within the SPD and the Miami-Dade School District Police Department, or M-DSPD, conspired to keep Martin’s criminal history buried.
 
See Jack Cashill’s stunning work, in “Deconstructing Obama,” “First Strike,” “Hoodwinked,” “Officer’s Oath” and more.
 
As part of its mission the M-DSPD was allegedly trying to divert offending students, especially black males, from the criminal justice system. As the Martin death would prove, the M-DSPD diverted offending students to nothing beyond its own statistical glory.
 
The exposure of M-DSPD practices began inadvertently on March 26, 2012, when the Miami Herald, the one mainstream outlet to do real reporting on the case, ran a story on Martin’s background.
 
The Herald’s headline, “Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin,” should have caused the other media to seek the truth about the very nearly sanctified Martin.
 
It did not. What it did do was to cause M-DSPD Police Chief Charles Hurley to launch a major Internal Affairs (IA) investigation into the possible leak of this information to the Herald.
 
At the end of the day, Hurley rather wished he had not. The detectives questioned told the truth about Martin and about the policies that kept him out of the justice system. Hurley would be demoted and forced out of the department within a year.
 
We now know what the detectives revealed thanks to a recently fulfilled Freedom of Information Act request filed by the dogged researchers at a blogging collective known as The Conservative Treehouse. The “Treepers” have literally done more good work on the Martin case than all the newsrooms in America combined.
 
On Feb. 15, 2012, 11 days before Martin’s death, the Miami-Dade County Public Schools put out a press release boasting of a 60 percent decline in school-based arrests, the largest decline by far in the state.
 
“While our work is not completed, we are making tremendous progress in moving toward a pure prevention model,” Hurley told the Tampa Bay Times, “with enforcement as a last resort and an emphasis on education.”
 
Hurley’s detectives, all of them veterans with excellent records, told a different story under oath when questioned by Internal Affairs. They knew the shell game was about to be exposed upon first learning that Martin was one of their students and outside agencies would be requesting his records.
 
“Oh, God, oh, my God, oh, God,” one major reportedly said when first looking at Martin’s data. He realized that Martin had been suspended twice already that school year for offenses that should have gotten him arrested – once for getting caught with a burglary tool and a dozen items of female jewelry, the second time for getting caught with marijuana and a marijuana pipe.
 
In each case, the case file on Martin was fudged to make the crime less serious than it was. As one detective told IA, the arrest statistics coming out of Martin’s school, Michael Krop Senior, had been “quite high,” and the detectives “needed to find some way to lower the stats.” This directive allegedly came from Hurley.
 
“Chief Hurley, for the past year, has been telling his command staff to lower the arrest rates,” confirmed another high-ranking detective.
 
When asked by IA whether the M-DSPD was avoiding making arrests, that detective replied, “What Chief Hurley said on the record is that he commends the officer for using his discretion. What Chief Hurley really meant is that he’s commended the officer for falsifying a police report.”
 
The IA interrogators seemed stunned by what they were hearing. They asked one female detective incredulously if she were actually ordered to “falsify reports.” She answered, “Pretty much, yes.”
 
Once the top brass understood that the Martin case had the potential to expose the reason for the department’s stunning drop in crime, they told the detectives “to make sure they start writing reports as is; don’t omit anything.”
 
“Oh, now, the chief wants us to write reports as is,” said a Hispanic detective sarcastically, “and not omit anything, as we have been advised in the past?”
 
The IA investigation delved into the paranoid concern that the M-DSPD was sharing information about Martin with other relevant police departments as it routinely did in other multi-jurisdictional cases.
 
The one detective who sent information to the Sanford PD came under heavy fire. He was appalled. “Currently, our department is functioning and operating out of fear,” he told the IA. “It is tragic to see that I’ve been disciplined at the direction of Chief Hurley.”
 
As it turned out, Hurley need not have worried about the SPD. As the Conservative Treehouse reports, the information sent by the M-DSPD “disappeared down the rabbit hole and was not included in the final victimology report filed by Sanford Detective Serino.”
 
Serino was the Martin-friendly detective who had insisted that Martin “has no criminal record whatsoever,” calling him, “a good kid, a mild-mannered kid.”
 
In Hurley’s defense, school districts across the country had been feeling pressure from the nation’s race hustlers to think twice before disciplining black students. Last year, the White House formalized the pressure with an executive order warning school districts to avoid “methods that result in disparate use of disciplinary tools.”
 
Jesse Jackson brought this nonsense home to Sanford during a large April 1, 2012, rally. He implied that Martin had been profiled by his high school for being a black male and suspended for the same reason. “We must stop suspending our children,” Jackson told the crowd.
 
In a way, Jackson was right. Martin should not have been suspended. He should have been arrested on both occasions. Had he been, his parents and his teachers would have known how desperately far he had gone astray.
 
Instead, Martin was “diverted” into nothing useful. Just days after his non-arrest, he was allowed to wander the streets of Sanford high and alone looking, in Zimmerman’s immortal words, “like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something.”
 
At the end of the day, Martin had avoided becoming an arrest statistic, only to become a statistic of a much graver kind.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/police-buried-trayvons-criminal-history/#YFVWtci1kf0FOKFO.99


A story about nothing and it has no bearing on that wanna be Barney Fife chasing and shooting an unarmed boy to death.
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Re: Police buries criminal history of Trayvon Martin
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2013, 03:58:46 PM »
Yeah.  That article really convinced me that Martin was a violent person.