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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2012, 06:16:50 PM »
you'll like it.

advise- keep workouts 1/2 hr or less, less than 20-30 seconds between sets. get in get out. rest recover. hit it again in another 3 days.
20 seconds? why take any rest at all?

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2012, 06:17:27 PM »
I`m just having a re-read of what i wrote on ironage,and at the 4 week mark i did a strength test on bench press,pulldowns and squats,for a 1 rep max and the squat was the biggest jump,44lb in total,but i did notice the next day i had a sore throat and a cold.When doing the 50 reps set i always felt fresh 10 mins after and great the next day.The heavier weights and 1 rep maxs are what hits the CNS.

Awesome information. What do you think of the idea of having one heavy day per week? I'm afraid to completely remove the heavy tension stimulus. Have you experimented with 2x/day training too?

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2012, 06:35:40 PM »
deplete glycogen using high reps, do a carbload and after it do low reps with heavy weight. this way you train all muscle fiber types and are having best chance for growth without assistance. 45min/workout, whole body, 4x/week is enough.
m,t,w are glycogen depleting days, th and friday are carbload, sat is a heavy workout, su is medium carbs, repeat until you'r ripped

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2012, 12:56:59 PM »
deplete glycogen using high reps, do a carbload and after it do low reps with heavy weight. this way you train all muscle fiber types and are having best chance for growth without assistance. 45min/workout, whole body, 4x/week is enough.
m,t,w are glycogen depleting days, th and friday are carbload, sat is a heavy workout, su is medium carbs, repeat until you'r ripped

You mean UD2.0  ;) ?


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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2012, 05:52:10 PM »
So... Anyone getting huge off this proposed method?
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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2012, 05:54:15 PM »
So... Anyone getting huge off this proposed method?
Basile. Assuredly.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #56 on: April 04, 2012, 10:40:51 AM »
Awesome information. What do you think of the idea of having one heavy day per week? I'm afraid to completely remove the heavy tension stimulus. Have you experimented with 2x/day training too?

What i found was that by doing 1 set of 50 reps i felt fresh 10 mins after the workout,no soreness the next day,and usually increased by 1 rep each workout.When i increased the weight so i maxed out at 15 reps i needed to train 1 day then miss a day,and trying to train every day,even only doing 1 set was too hard.This is when you have to decide if you are a bodybuilder or a powerlifter.I had over 30 years of HIT type of training,lifted some good numbers on bench and squat,built a good physique,but always felt like i needed more size.Since i moved over to doing a high rep set done every day my size has definitely improved (especially on my arms),and my focus is no longer on can i bench press 400,but more on how many reps can i get with 200lbs.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #57 on: April 04, 2012, 10:51:14 AM »
I forgot to mention one thing that made me try training this way,and that was seeing Sir Chris Hoy (the cyclist) on a tv advert.It showed him squatting 5 plates,his legs have got great development,so i looked for his training routine and he trains in the gym 2 times a week on squats and leg press,but does his road workout every day for 3-4 hours.Now according to bodybuilding experts training the same bodypart every day is over training,yet he trains his legs every day and has the leg strength to squat 5 plates and has got leg development that most bodybuilders would like to have.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #58 on: April 04, 2012, 12:00:33 PM »
I use to bench every day and eat like a bird.  Coincidentally I was small and weak.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #59 on: April 04, 2012, 12:07:04 PM »
as frequency increases, intensity needs to decrease.

you can train every muscle every day if your staying far far far away from failure. like, very far away from failure.



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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2012, 12:22:47 PM »
muscle growth comes from INTENSITY.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #61 on: June 03, 2013, 05:13:12 AM »
Ok, I'm back.

I have been working muscle groups 3-4 times per week (some even 2x/day for specific periods) the last year and it has worked really well. Even started using it on legs. I can definately recommend it for naturals. What I have noticed is that you don't need to lift maximal weights at all to grow or get stronger.


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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #62 on: June 03, 2013, 05:22:01 AM »
I also want to give a shout-out to Magnum/Disgusted. His dieting methods are the bomb.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2013, 05:22:46 AM »
I have just bought some home equipment and I'm thinking about trying to work upper body + calves 4-6 days per week. Anyone ever had success with this kind of strategy?



Unless you are a professional bodybuilder training calves is totally pointless.

here is what I recommend..push/pulll

Mondays- chest and biceps
Tuesdays - cardio
Wednesdays - back and triceps
Thursday - cardio
Friday - shoulders, incline press and other muscles you felt that you didn't work enough.
Saturday - run errands with the girl friend and try to make it her day...trust me, it will make her nag less
Sunday - drink alcohol and move only to use the bathroom and get food.
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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #64 on: June 03, 2013, 06:37:35 AM »
Yes! Best way to train. train for no longer then 45 minutes but with super high intensity and no longer then 30 seconds between sets and due large muscle groups like legs all on one day,same with chest. I always work one muscle group per workout it means working out more days a week but it is the best way to train.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #65 on: June 03, 2013, 06:47:08 AM »
Even with a training split you are training other body parts. The body tires systemically and not just on the individual muscle you are trying to isolate.

Also think about the muscles involved when training. You can't train a pressing movement without triceps. You can't do a pulling movement without biceps. Doing a real delt exercise? You are working back too. Squatting you are not just training lower back, hips and legs. There are so many muscles isometrically or moving to assisting. Just squat down with 135 and feel your calf. It's working. You're abs a tight.


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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #66 on: June 03, 2013, 07:12:34 AM »
Even with a training split you are training other body parts. The body tires systemically and not just on the individual muscle you are trying to isolate.

Also think about the muscles involved when training. You can't train a pressing movement without triceps. You can't do a pulling movement without biceps. Doing a real delt exercise? You are working back too. Squatting you are not just training lower back, hips and legs. There are so many muscles isometrically or moving to assisting. Just squat down with 135 and feel your calf. It's working. You're abs a tight.



True but still not the the same thing as directly doing an exercise/muscle group 3-4x/week. But definately there is overlap even when using multisplit routines.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #67 on: June 03, 2013, 07:19:26 AM »
I did some pushups a couple days ago just to fuck around since I was too lazy to go to the gym that day. I think I did a total of 100 pushups and what surprised the hell out of me the next morning was that I was sore as FUCK in my lats. Chest and triceps were fine.

I've done this before. Same exact thing. And I was going slow and controlled too.

Your last work a lot when your scapulae aren't pinned back by the bench.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #68 on: June 03, 2013, 07:31:20 AM »
Ok, I'm back.

I have been working muscle groups 3-4 times per week (some even 2x/day for specific periods) the last year and it has worked really well. Even started using it on legs. I can definately recommend it for naturals. What I have noticed is that you don't need to lift maximal weights at all to grow or get stronger.



Interesting concept. So you perform a full body workout, or do you train on a 7 day split? How much volume per session, like 20-25 sets?
In what sense is it working 'really well', like more mass, more detail or both? How well do you recover from this?

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #69 on: June 03, 2013, 07:36:20 AM »
I have used HFT in the past to break through a plateau in my training , mostly when looking for strength gains say in the bench press. As mentioned by a few earlier posts, I think the key is to keep it in the 70-80 % range intensity wise and avoid failure like the plague.

I don't think it would be too good for serious size gains, but for breaking through plateaus or just to change it up I have found this quite effective. I had my right shoulder "redone'' when I was 42 and I used the HFT type of workouts to help get my bench press back over 405 at a body weight of 200 lbs. I just alternated the exercises for 6 week cycles and combined with muscle memory and a lot of dedication and time,it came back.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2013, 04:23:58 AM »
Interesting concept. So you perform a full body workout, or do you train on a 7 day split? How much volume per session, like 20-25 sets?
In what sense is it working 'really well', like more mass, more detail or both? How well do you recover from this?

No, usually 4 days per week either using a full body type workout or 2-way split early in the week and then back to back full body workouts later in the week.

Both strength and mass has increased. Squat up 40kg, db bench up from 45kg dbs to 57kg dbs, chins up from 25kg to 50kg, shoulder press up from 70kg to 90kg etc. All this for reps. Body feels constantly ready to go and you feel constantly pumped.

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Re: Anyone got good results training muscle groups every day?
« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2013, 04:32:24 AM »
I have used HFT in the past to break through a plateau in my training , mostly when looking for strength gains say in the bench press. As mentioned by a few earlier posts, I think the key is to keep it in the 70-80 % range intensity wise and avoid failure like the plague.

I don't think it would be too good for serious size gains, but for breaking through plateaus or just to change it up I have found this quite effective. I had my right shoulder "redone'' when I was 42 and I used the HFT type of workouts to help get my bench press back over 405 at a body weight of 200 lbs. I just alternated the exercises for 6 week cycles and combined with muscle memory and a lot of dedication and time,it came back.

Thanks for the info t-rex! This is what I read about this type of training too. That it would effect strength more than mass. But in my case it has helped mass too. I think the frequency dimension is still abit neglected in bodybuilding circles. I mean we all know/heard of guys who train chest and arms like every session and often these guys do really build up those muscle groups (even if their physique ends up unbalanced).