what's the best pre-workout on the market ????

[ritch]

The metabolism boost is hyped and they definitely do NOT help you burn fat.  You are simply chasing a high.  You're also damaging your heart, prostate, adrenals and causing insulin resistance.  Ephedrine abuse causes serious problems.  A few ex-training partners of mine ruined themselves with ephedrine during the 90's.  It seems harmless at the beginning, but attenuation/habituation causes the need to take more and more to get the same effects.  That is when it does the most damage.

Been using ephedrine for what? 20 years now, never go over 16m, even 12 is my dose. So just because your buddies messed themselves up, does not mean others can't make INTELLINGENT use of it and reap the benefits.

All the effects you speak of will NEVER happen to anyone who uses it pre workout so stop flooding the board here with bad info.

[Big Chiro Flex]

The metabolism boost is hyped and they definitely do NOT help you burn fat.  You are simply chasing a high.  You're also damaging your heart, prostate, adrenals and causing insulin resistance.  Ephedrine abuse causes serious problems.  A few ex-training partners of mine ruined themselves with ephedrine during the 90's.  It seems harmless at the beginning, but attenuation/habituation causes the need to take more and more to get the same effects.  That is when it does the most damage.

I normally like your posts but you are uneducated, ignorant, and full of shit here. Scroll through pubmed sometime and pull up any of the dozens of studies on how caffeine mobilizes fatty acids to be burned or how it improves athletic performance, focus, etc....

[ritch]

I normally like your posts but you are uneducated, ignorant, and full of shit here. Scroll through pubmed sometime and pull up any of the dozens of studies on how caffeine mobilizes fatty acids to be burned or how it improves athletic performance, focus, etc....

Good post!