Milos Sarcev: Chad Nicholls Is Not Responsible For Bodybuilders' Health Problems

[pellius]

Is a liquor store owner to blame if someone came into their store as sober as can be, bought a large quantity of alcohol, went home, drank it, then drove back to the liquor store for more, but hit a pedestrian while driving under the influence in a drunk driving accident, severely injuring or even killing the pedestrian in the process?

I wouldn't blame the liquor store owner in that case.  Unless he did something using horrible discretion in the process.

As far as bodybuilders are concerned, they were/are grown adults.  They know that diuretics come with risks.  I would even go so far as to say that most - especially at this point - are aware that they could potentially die due to cutting agents, specifically diuretics.

And that is why I simply cannot blame Chaicholls for the deaths of some of the heavy PED-using clients that he.  Someone pointed out that some of his clients were massive and jacked before they met Chad- so it would be difficult to say how much blame Chad should be given in the decision.

Not even close. A guy is buying liquor and getting drunk on his own. Nobody is telling him or advising him to do squat. A bber is paying someone whom he trusts to give him sound advice. It's just like when you go to a doctor and pay him for his expertise. The doctor prescribes the treatment and dosage. If he fucks up he is the one responsible.

[honest]

Luke was a really nice kid, Milos only ever had Lukes best intentions at heart, Luke took advice from Milos but always always took this advice and added to it. Luke was a far better bodybuilder off stage than on, due to not taking that advice, he just self destructed, ending in the worst possible outcome for a guy who was you would be hard pressed to find anyone disliked.

[rocket]

Bashing gurus and accusing them of having blood on their hands is 99% operated by poisonous bitches who quite frankly, are not people who have their fellow human being's interests at heart.  They are just another rendition of the social justice warrior, drama queens looking to start a pile on.

Bringing up Luke Wood is a great example.  All these bitches know full well that Luke Wood had a reputation for going above the advice of his "guru" but that ruins the juicy narrative of an evil, careless guru giving terrible advice, so they ignore that and bring it up, anyway

Don't get me wrong - you can get bad advice from a guru.  Thing is, it's wise to remember that the subject of this discussion is administering often   way over therapeutic (likely untested) levels of compounds to yourself.  When it comes to that, there is only one person to blame.  There isn't a shred of credible evidence that you definitely won't damage yourself from using these substances and when they are used in the medical world, they are only used when they absolutely have to.  Yet, here we are, whining about how misuse of them in otherwise perfectly healthy people who have everything to lose has gone awry.  What a shock!

[Vince B]

Well said, Rocket. One thing that I have observed about top athletes in any field is what they have to do to be the best in their field, sport, endeavour or even pageant.

The closer you are to the top the more motivation you will have to find something to give you more results. Many times the margins are extremely small so who knows

what these champions will do? In Luke's case he won all the titles in Australia. That left the Olympia and Universe titles. Well, how many of the Aussie champs have gone

overseas looking for glory? Just about all of them. Luke was right up there with the best in many ways. He lacked size in his arms and like Dennis James, was better a

few weeks out.

I remember coaching a 400 M runner who won the Australian titles years ago. I kept pushing him on the leg press and he astounded me by what he could endure and

achieve. He did over 100 reps with 300 pounds on the leg press! He usually did two maximum sets. Heart rate at the end was about 175. I got him to try

to beat the number of reps each session and eventually he could do about 120 reps. Quite amazing to witness.

He was rewarded by setting the best time ever run over 400 metres in Australia. Well, imagine my dismay when I discovered he had another coach who

was also pushing him. This guy trained him on sand dunes. Plus he had his regular coach for track work. If I had known about the extras he was doing I would have changed things.

As it was he didn't fare well at the Olympics that year which was a pity.

We can only imagine what bodybuilders will do. Goodness knows there are 'gurus' here in Australia as well as overseas. If some aspiring bodybuilders aren't that bright

then they probably won't know who to believe or what to do. The smart ones either figure things out or rely on a coach who already has done that.

[pellius]

Luke was a really nice kid, Milos only ever had Lukes best intentions at heart, Luke took advice from Milos but always always took this advice and added to it. Luke was a far better bodybuilder off stage than on, due to not taking that advice, he just self destructed, ending in the worst possible outcome for a guy who was you would be hard pressed to find anyone disliked.

Kid? The guy was 35 years old. Old enough to take responsibility for his actions.

[honest]

You will have to forgive me I knew him since he was competing as a teenager. Might have grown up a lot but to me he was always still just a big kid.,

[pellius]

You will have to forgive me I knew him since he was competing as a teenager. Might have grown up a lot but to me he was always still just a big kid.,

I understand. My nephew who I use to babysit and then help raise when his parents divorced is in his thirties now with three kids and I still think of him as a kid.

They grow up so fast.

[hipolito mejia]

Is a liquor store owner to blame if someone came into their store as sober as can be, bought a large quantity of alcohol, went home, drank it, then drove back to the liquor store for more, but hit a pedestrian while driving under the influence in a drunk driving accident, severely injuring or even killing the pedestrian in the process?

I wouldn't blame the liquor store owner in that case.  Unless he did something using horrible discretion in the process.

As far as bodybuilders are concerned, they were/are grown adults.  They know that diuretics come with risks.  I would even go so far as to say that most - especially at this point - are aware that they could potentially die due to cutting agents, specifically diuretics.

And that is why I simply cannot blame Chaicholls for the deaths of some of the heavy PED-using clients that he.  Someone pointed out that some of his clients were massive and jacked before they met Chad- so it would be difficult to say how much blame Chad should be given in the decision.

You pay a Guru to help you do good in a contest and walk away with health intact, it might be a naive move but a Guru” is supposed to put you in an effective yet safe protocol.   


It’s Bodybuilding after all.