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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2021, 05:48:48 AM »

Most know he would juice and beat people up to steal their money for gear. Lol.

Allegedly, he ripped off Samir Bannout's steroid stash, and couldn't come back to California for a while. They finally made up when EAS was hitting it big.

That was a rumor years ago, but a lot of big names swore it was true.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2021, 06:29:23 AM »
Allegedly, he ripped off Samir Bannout's steroid stash, and couldn't come back to California for a while. They finally made up when EAS was hitting it big.

That was a rumor years ago, but a lot of big names swore it was true.

I guess with what I was told by someone real close to him that seems about right. She made it sound like he was literally addicted to steroids and would rip people off in his younger years.


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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2021, 03:43:04 PM »
The person who really got fucked over was Dan Duchaine. He dedicated his life to providing true, accurate information about performance enhancing drugs for bodybuilders. He first got fucked by two different governments, both Mexico and the U.S. given that Hank Rhon, mayor of Tijuana, cartel member and owner of the Caliente dog/horse racing track and betting/fixing enterprise took over steroids with the cartels and later on brought the whole vet scene(QV, Denkall, Animal Power,etc) along with Juan Macklis. Mayor Rhon was the real owner of "Laboratories Milano" in the late 80s and early 90s. Duchaine  was at the end of the chain and just wanted to make real, quality gear(those little blue 5mg dbols are still the best there ever was) but ends up popped for the cartels to take over steroids, then Phillips uses Duchaine to make MM2000 the "hardcore" magazine, with "Ask the Guru" and steroid profiles,etc.,  gains the hardcore community trust and pulls a bait and switch, essentially getting rid of Duchaine, all steroid info and pulling the Met-RX/EAS scam where Dr. Scott Connelly LIES about being a Harvard doctor, LIES about doing studies on burn patients with Metamyosin, and LIES about having no relationship with Bill Phillips. The whole thing started when the cartels realized there was real money to be made with steroids, so took it over and a bunch of dealers had a lot of money to launder and basically had to get the fuck out of Mexico or deal with the cartels/government which were the same thing in Tijuana. And Connelly and Phillips became multi millionaires frankly largely in part to the legitimacy of Duchaine, who was then cut out of the supplement scam once he was no longer useful. Phillips and Connelly walk away multi millionaires and Duchaine was left a broken man, a sacrificial lamb for everyone that went "legit".

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2021, 06:14:50 PM »
The person who really got fucked over was Dan Duchaine. He dedicated his life to providing true, accurate information about performance enhancing drugs for bodybuilders. He first got fucked by two different governments, both Mexico and the U.S. given that Hank Rhon, mayor of Tijuana, cartel member and owner of the Caliente dog/horse racing track and betting/fixing enterprise took over steroids with the cartels and later on brought the whole vet scene(QV, Denkall, Animal Power,etc) along with Juan Macklis. Mayor Rhon was the real owner of "Laboratories Milano" in the late 80s and early 90s. Duchaine  was at the end of the chain and just wanted to make real, quality gear(those little blue 5mg dbols are still the best there ever was) but ends up popped for the cartels to take over steroids, then Phillips uses Duchaine to make MM2000 the "hardcore" magazine, with "Ask the Guru" and steroid profiles,etc.,  gains the hardcore community trust and pulls a bait and switch, essentially getting rid of Duchaine, all steroid info and pulling the Met-RX/EAS scam where Dr. Scott Connelly LIES about being a Harvard doctor, LIES about doing studies on burn patients with Metamyosin, and LIES about having no relationship with Bill Phillips. The whole thing started when the cartels realized there was real money to be made with steroids, so took it over and a bunch of dealers had a lot of money to launder and basically had to get the fuck out of Mexico or deal with the cartels/government which were the same thing in Tijuana. And Connelly and Phillips became multi millionaires frankly largely in part to the legitimacy of Duchaine, who was then cut out of the supplement scam once he was no longer useful. Phillips and Connelly walk away multi millionaires and Duchaine was left a broken man, a sacrificial lamb for everyone that went "legit".


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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2021, 07:01:34 PM »

and TC then ran to partner with Tim @ biotest/t-nation
Biotest put out decent products.
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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2021, 07:04:25 PM »
Even worse for Duchaine, the Feds say Manuel Noreiga is the owner of Laboratories Milano, TOTAL bullshit as it was Hank Rhon, but now Duchaine has a full FBI file on him and the full resources of the Feds as they figure why not add steroids to Noreiga?  And Duchaine is just left as a patsy for the whole Tijuana operation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1989/10/07/noriega-accused-of-owning-steroid-lab/5bb8f114-c6c9-4e87-828e-f52b5d8b9f84/

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-12-me-106-story.html

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2021, 07:48:51 PM »
Biotest put out decent products.

Didn’t they have the product with legit gear in a bottle labeled as oral but had a rubber stopper to draw out with a needle and inject?

There was definitely a product like that in PUMP magazine back in the day

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2021, 08:02:34 PM »
I remember my bro giving me this book.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2021, 08:06:00 PM »
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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2021, 08:08:44 PM »
Didn’t they have the product with legit gear in a bottle labeled as oral but had a rubber stopper to draw out with a needle and inject?

There was definitely a product like that in PUMP magazine back in the day

I think that was VPX and maybe some others. Pretty ballsy. They were "prohormones."

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2021, 08:12:35 PM »
Remember Phillips was the guy who said HMB "feels like Deca".


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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2021, 08:12:58 PM »
Didn’t they have the product with legit gear in a bottle labeled as oral but had a rubber stopper to draw out with a needle and inject?

There was definitely a product like that in PUMP magazine back in the day

I think some were injecting Androsol.

Syntrax had a few people were injecting.

VPX was another that I think had a few.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #87 on: November 16, 2021, 08:18:46 PM »
I remember my bro giving me this book.

EAS sent those and the "Body of Work" tape around constantly. I had piles of them I'd gift people. There were two versions of the "body of Work" tape, one where he clowns Roland Kickinger on Venice, and a newer one where Kickinger's edited out. I don't think Kickinger signed a release for broadcast form, and threatened to sue EAS at one point.


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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #88 on: November 16, 2021, 08:36:23 PM »
EAS sent those and the "Body of Work" tape around constantly. I had piles of them I'd gift people. There were two versions of the "body of Work" tape, one where he clowns Roland Kickinger on Venice, and a newer one where Kickinger's edited out. I don't think Kickinger signed a release for broadcast form, and threatened to sue EAS at one point.

As a teen I bought just about every one of their supplements in that book  :-[

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #89 on: November 16, 2021, 08:48:50 PM »
I remember my bro giving me this book.

I got that for Christmas nearly 24 years ago. I found it very informative back then. It's really useful now, as I can recreate some of those supplements as a fraction of the cost.

Phosphagen (300 g of creatine) is basically $9 at Wal-Mart now. HMB and CLA are dirt cheap today, compared to the 90s.

I've been using both for several months and it's done well for me.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2021, 09:30:05 PM »
I remember my bro giving me this book.

Haha, awesome. Definitely remember that book.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2021, 10:21:27 PM »
Biotest put out decent products.

Avant Labs > Biotest

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #92 on: November 17, 2021, 06:47:39 AM »

and TC then ran to partner with Tim @ biotest/t-nation

TC was such an insecure little pussy.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #93 on: November 17, 2021, 12:55:50 PM »
As a teen I bought just about every one of their supplements in that book  :-[
Me too. I would have been better off buying attractive clothes with that money.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #94 on: November 17, 2021, 04:23:45 PM »
Me too. I would have been better off buying attractive clothes with that money.

I have to admit, I got some value out of the Body for Life book. I outgrew it at one point, but it was an easy way to learn the fundamentals ofroutines and nutrition. I don't think most entered his competitions, but the book was marketed very well.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #95 on: November 17, 2021, 04:43:10 PM »




My book has the guy on the cover also on the back doing curls, not Bill Phillips. I think his name is Bill Davey, who competed in natural federations.

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Re: Bill Phillips the Covid
« Reply #96 on: November 17, 2021, 09:13:00 PM »
I remember my bro giving me this book.

LOL I remember a guy at the gym letting me “look” at this because the information in it was so great. I was to young to understand it was an advertisement. I remember he told Bill Philips spent all of his own money researching these products and then published this “encyclopedia” because he wanted to promote bodybuilding….