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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2021, 01:37:07 PM »
I just assumed it was Wes in the video, talking about doing hammer curls before the 1955 Mr America.

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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2021, 02:00:52 PM »
Saddened by this, I appreciate these odd feats of strength. Those types of leverage lifts are deceptively hard.

The version with the axes was my favorite -

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2021, 02:07:40 PM »
Thanks for the news. That sucks. I have always been fascinated by Slim. Definitely an unknown to many and on the fringes of the strength game with his feats. RIP.

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2021, 04:23:24 PM »
is this better than garret giddens, no
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2021, 04:33:34 PM »
Saddened by this, I appreciate these odd feats of strength. Those types of leverage lifts are deceptively hard.

The version with the axes was my favorite -

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I don't get into "odd lifts and feats of strength" but his feats were genuine hand , wrist and arm strength.
Never met the man or saw him perform, but he must have had a vice like grip.

I'll bet with the right marketing he could have been a good draw in a Vegas style act.
The avg person can relate more to his feats of strength then benching or squatting barbells.

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Re: slim the hammerman has died 1934-2021.
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2021, 06:23:28 AM »
RIP

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2021, 06:41:47 AM »
The Weaver Stick - George R. Weaver
Figure One


Figure Two






The Weaver Stick

by George R. Weaver






In his rating of various lifts for merit David Willoughby has listed the records of John Grimek and Paul Von Boeckmann in the Weaver Stick Lift. The world’s record in the Harness Lift is about 4,000 lbs. The world’s record in the Weaver Stick Lift is about 10 lbs. A slight difference!




“But what in thunder is the Weaver Stick?” you ask. As a matter of fact, the name was applied to it by Siegmund Klein, because of my efforts to popularize this test of forearm strength.




It all began many years ago, when strong-men used to test their strength of “wrist” by lifting a broom horizontally from the floor by grasping the end of the handle, with a light weight placed on the straw of the broom. The ability to lift a 5 lb. brick in this way denotes unusual “wrist” strength. It occurred to the late Paul Von Boeckmann to make this test more accurate by suspending the weight from an exact point on the stick, and measuring an exact distance from that point to the front of the hand. The distance he decided on was 3 feet, or 36 inches. In this manner he finally succeeded in lifting a weight of 10¼ lbs.




Being curious as to how this compared with the ability of the leading modern lifters, I made several sticks, and tested some 40 lifters and athletes. The results were extremely interesting. But before I reveal them, I must tell you how to make a Weaver Stick, and how to lift with it.




Obtain a mop handle, about one inch in diameter, and saw it to a length of 42 inches. Half an inch from one end cut a notch. Exactly 36 inches from the center of the notch, circle the stick with a line. I suggest you cut a knifeline, which you can then ink with a pen. Get two metal right-angles at a hardware store, and screw them into the top and bottom sides of the stick so that the rear edges of the right-angles come exactly to the inked knifeline. (The top side of the stick is the side where the notch is cut.) If one angle has one screw-hole, and the other angle has two screw-holes, the screws will not conflict. You can shave the top and bottom of the stick a little with a knife at these places to make a flatter base for the angle. This leaves a “handle” just 5½ inches long, which you can tape to a thickness that suits your hand and affords a good grip. A reference to the photos should make the above details clear.




The two photos showing John Gallagher using the stick demonstrate the proper method of lifting. The weight is hung by a cord from the notch, the stick is placed on a stool or bench in the manner shown in Figure One, and the handle is grasped with the front of the hand against the metal guards which prevent the hand from going over the 36-inch line and thus “cheating.” Then the stick is lifted free of the chair as shown in Figure Two.




It is important that the following rules be observed. The stick must be lifted parallel to the floor, and not with the weighted end tilted downward. Above all, the stick must be lifted straight up from the chair; there must be no rocking of the stick on the chair before lifting. The lifting hand and arm must remain free of the body. And the heel of the hand must remain on top of the stick; if the hand twists around under the stick the lift is no good and cannot be counted. The stick, when lifted, need not be held for any length of time, but it must be clearly lifted free of the stool (an inch is enough) and held in control (one second is enough).




This lift may also be made by turning the back on the weight and grasping the stick with the little-finger toward the weight, instead of with the thumb toward the weight. More weight can be lifted in this manner. More weight can be lifted in this manner. When lifting with the back toward the weight, the body may be bent forward as the lift is made.




The Forward Lift tests the strength of the forearm muscles that abduct the wrist. My tests with the stick reveal how disproportionate is the strength of many lifters. Thus John Protasel was extremely strong in the Backward Lift which tests the strength of the forearm muscles that adduct the wrist; but he was mediocre in the Forward Lift. Siegmund Klein was considerably stronger in the Backward Lift than in the Forward Lift. On the other hand, Paul Von Boeckmann himself was relatively much stronger in the Forward Lift.




Then again, Steve Gob, who can lift extraordinary weights in the flat-footed squat, was unable to lift 5 lbs. on the Weaver Stick. More remarkable yet, Warren Lincoln Travis, who was not only exceptional in Back Lifting with a platform but who also possessed great ability in feats of grip strength, was unable to lift more than 4½ lbs. on the Weaver Stick. Lou Leonard, wrestling instructor at Bothner’s Gymnasium, could not budge 3 lbs. One fascinating thing about this lift is that you never can tell in advance whether any particular person is going to be wonderful at it or very poor. Testing people is full of surprises. Tony Sansone, for instance, lifted more with his right hand than did the mighty Henry Steinborn, famous weight-lifting champion of the Alan Calvert era.




The most extraordinary ability I discovered among those I tested was that of John Grimek. Upon first being shown the stick, he succeeded in lifting 9⅜ lbs. in the Forward Lift, right hand. I had planned for him to attempt a world’s record after a few weeks of practice, but when the time came an injury prevented any serious right-handed lifting. However, lifting with his left hand, he made a wonderful record of exactly 10 lbs. Meanwhile, John Protasel had made a record of 12½ lbs. in the Backward Lift, right hand. I may say that Siegmund Klein had several Weaver Sticks made and obtained a special set of weights, ready for visiting strong-men who wish to try this test at his gymnasium.




The best records so far have been as follows:




Forward Lift, right hand – Paul Von Boeckmann, 10¾ lbs.

Forward Lift, left hand – John Grimek, 10 pounds.

Backward Lift, right hand – John Protasel, 12½ lbs.

Backward Lift, left hand – John Grimek, 11 ½lbs.




David Willoughby has estimated the poundage-possibility of this lift in relation to the Two Hands Clean & Jerk as follows:




Forward Lift, right hand – .02664

Forward Lift, left hand – .02505

Backward Lift, right hand – .03730

Backward Lift, left hand – .03506




It is therefore possible for us to rate performances in this lift, in accordance with the lifter’s muscular size (or weight-height), but using the above ratios and Table 2 of Willoughby’s Weightlifting Records and their Merits, in the April/May 1945 issue of Your Physique magazine. Only two lifts so far made better than 75%. As Willoughby mentioned in his article, any lift rating over 75% is very good, anything over 80% is extraordinary and anything over 85% is simply terrific.




It would certainly be interesting to know what such strong-men as Hermann Goerner, Louis Uni (Apollon), John Marx, Arthur Saxon, Primo Carnera, Joseph Nordquest, Ernest Cadine, Clevio Massimo, Arthur Dandurand, and the famous movie-athlete Maciste could perform in this lift.




My suggestion is that every barbell gymnasium should have a Weaver Stick as part of its strength-testing equipment. But be sure to perform this lift correctly, in accordance with the instructions previously given, as it is possible to “cheat” in this lift, and this would not offer a fair test of strength of the muscles involved. And be sure to use weights that have been tested for accuracy on a reliable scale, since a little weight means a great deal in any leverage stunt of this nature. One final warning: do not try this lift too frequently or you may develop a lame wrist. And if you do not succeed in lifting a certain weight after a couple of attempts, you had better quit until next time, as the wrist and forearm tire very quickly under the strain of this lift.    HERE'S ONE YOU COULD TRY.

 
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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2021, 06:43:13 AM »
  THE WEAVER STICK
February 10, 2012 Al Myers
(WEBMASTERS NOTE: The following was written years ago by the famous strength historian David Willoughby.   This is an exert from an article he wrote, titled, Feats of Strength with Levers.  Willoughby’s writings about the Weaver Stick provided the inspiration to adopt the Weaver Stick as an official USAWA lift. The purpose of reprinting this story is to provide the lead-in for my story tomorrow on the Weaver Stick, which for sure will create a Weaver Stick controversy.)

by David Willoughby


Drawing of John Grimek performing the Weaver Stick. This photo is from David Willoughby's book, The Super Athletes.

A direct and practical means of developing and strengthening the abductor muscles of the forearm is simply to swing a sledgehammer, preferably one that is sufficiently small and light to be gripped and swung with one hand. Such a movement is “practical,” because the use of the hammer, in one way or another, is something that has been going on for thousands of years and is still an essential element in many manual occupations. And so long as one is endeavoring to develop muscular strength, why use odd, artificial movements that rarely if ever occur in everyday life, when there are other movements, or exercises, that employ the muscles in a natural, practical manner? Away back in June, 1908, at the Crystal Palace in London, Arthur Lancaster swung a blacksmith’s 8-pound hammer for TWELVE HOURS without stopping. He was said to have “. . . the strongest wrist and forearm of any man alive.”

Many a feat of so-called “wrist strength” – actually, strength of the abductor muscles of the forearm (those that draw the hand toward the thumb side) – has been performed using either a standard, commercial sledgehammer, or “sledge,” or a long wooden bar, like a broom handle, with a light weight attached to the far end of it. Unfortunately, in most of the feats of this kind that have been reported, it has been difficult or impossible for one reason or another, to evaluate the merit of the performance. In some of the reports even the weight of the sledgehammer is left unmentioned; and rarely if ever does the performer state the exact length of the handle and how far his hand was away from the weight when he lifted it. Of course, without these essential items of information, no reliable comparison of the feat can be made with others of its kind.

Some years ago, in order to obviate these difficulties, my friend and co-enthusiast, George Weaver, who was then living in Brooklyn, designed a leverage-lifting bar of specified dimensions, with which he tested the “wrist strength” of many strongmen and weight trainees who were living in that area. In due course this bar became known as a “Weaver Stick.” This was a round stick (such as a mop handle), about nine-tenths of an inch in diameter, cut to the exact length of 41 inches. Here is Weaver’s description of the details of his stick:

Half an inch from one end, cut a notch. EXACTLY 36 inches from the CENTER of this notch, circle the stick with a line. Get two metal right-angles at a hardware store, and screw them into the top and bottom sides of the stick so that the rear edges of the right-angles come exactly to the circled line. The top side of the stick is the side where the notch is cut. lf one angle has once screw hole, and the other angle has two screw holes, the screws will not conflict. You can shave the bottom of the stick a little with a knife at these places, to make a flatter base for the angle. This leaves you with a “handle” just 5½ inches long, which you can tape to a thickness that suits your hand and affords a good grip.

It is important that the following rules be observed. The stick must be lifted approximately parallel to the floor, and not with the weighted end tilted downward. Above all, the stick must be lifted straight up from the chair; there must be no rocking of the stick on the chair before lifting. The lifting hand and arm must remain free of the body. And the heel of the hand must remain on TOP of the stick. If the hand twists under the stick, the lift is no good and cannot be allowed. The stick, when lifted, need not be held for any length of time; but it must be clearly lifted free of the chair (an inch is enough) and held in control (one second is enough).

This lift may also be made by turning the back on the weight and grasping the stick with the little finger toward the weight, instead of with the thumb toward the weight. More weight can be lifted in this manner. When lifting with the back toward the weight, the body may be bent forward as the lift is made.

The accompanying drawing of John Grimek shows the position to be assumed in making a Forward Lift on the Weaver Stick.

Many years before George Weaver thought up his leverage lifting stick, Paul Von Boeckmann, a professional strongman and physical instructor in New York City, by practice became exceptionally capable at feats of “wrist strength,” and used to win bets by raising weights on the end (straw) of an ordinary broom. He, like Weaver, saw that it was essential to establish a fixed distance on the stick between the center of the weight and the front (thumb-side) of the lifting hand. By doing this he eventually made a record by lifting 11½ pounds at a distance of 36 inches in front of his grip. This was equivalent to raising the same amount in a Forward Lift on a regulation Weaver Stick. At the age of 62 (in 1933), von Boeckmann could still raise 9½ pounds in this manner.

Weaver’s tests with his stick revealed a remarkable range in ability among the various persons who lifted on it. In this lift (in the Forward style) the “average” man would seem capable of about 4 pounds. Yet Warren Travis, the one-time world champion in back and harness lifting, who in addition could pick up over 100 pounds in a one-hand pinch lift, could only raise 4¼ pounds on the Weaver Stick. The best lift performed in the Forward style was recorded by recorded by Weaver was one of 10 pounds with the left hand by John Grimek. Later, in York, Pa., Grimek raised 11¾ pounds with his right hand on a stick that was 2” shorter than a regulation Weaver Stick. This would have made his lift, if it had been made on a 42” stick, equivalent to about an even 11 pounds. In any event, Grimek’s lift would appear to be the best on record with the exception of that made long ago by Paul von Boeckmann. But it would be interesting to know how much weight could be raised in this style by such old-time champions of grip and forearm strength as Louis Cyr, Horace Barre, Apollon (Louis Uni), John Marx and Hermann Goerner.

Of more recent weightmen, Mac Batchelor and Douglas Hepburn should have made good showings in this test. However, any guesswork in this direction could be highly unreliable. One would suppose that thick wrists and tight wrist ligaments would be of great assistance in this lift; yet actually some strongmen who possessed these attributes came out very poorly on the Weaver Stick, while others, who had more slender wrists and limber wrist joints, did unexpectedly well. I myself had, and still have, very limber wrist joints (which used to handicap me in heavy one-hand overhead lifts), yet I managed to raise correctly 7 pounds on a standard Weaver Stick, at a time when I was well past my prime.

In view of the fact that John Grimek was capable of raising approximately 11 pounds on a Weaver Stick in the Forward Lift Style, while weighing about 195 pounds and having a wrist of 7¾” and a forearm of 13¾”, it would certainly seem that one of the present-day superheavyweight powerlifters, with correspondingly larger wrists and forearms, should be able to similarly raise at least 12 pounds. However, unless and until such a lift is made, Grimek must be credited with being the contemporary record-holder in this test of forearm strength. Indeed, the nearest lifts to the 10 pounds recorded for Grimek’s LEFT- HAND record of 10 pounds were right-hand lifts of 8 pounds performed by John Davis and Steve Stanko, who were then at the peak of their Olympic lifting efficiency.

In the Backward Lift on a Weaver Stick, a considerably heavier poundage is possible than in the more commonly performed Forward Lift style. In the Backward style the highest possible poundage recorded by Weaver was 12½ pounds. This was accomplished by John Protasel, a heavyweight of New York City. However, in order to be equal in merit to a Forward Lift of 11 pounds, as performed by John Grimek, a Backward Lift (which employs the stronger adductor muscles of the forearm) should be somewhere between 14½ and 15½ pounds.
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