Universal credit UK

[joswift]

Looks like the government is only going to protect the poorest people in society from the rising fuel (Gas and Electric) price increases.

The perfect way to turn middle income families into more poor people in society.
Eventually no one will have anything and will be reliant on state handouts.

Not sure how they are going to keep paying handouts to poor people if no one is earning any money as there will be far less taxation and as such the government will have less money.

I suppose they will just keep borrowing from the World bank.

Boris has promised more cash for the poorest over winter to help with fuel bills.

Amazing really because the government doesnt actually have any money apart from the taxes the people pay.
So if its not coming from taxation its coming from more borrowing.

Remember the Great Reset?
You will own nothing and you will be happy.

[OneMoreRep]

Remember the Great Reset?
You will own nothing and you will be happy.

I am almost practically convinced that THAT is the goal from all of this, a Great Reset.

The USA is also going in that direction. Today, the chair of the US Federal Reserve (Central Bank) pretty much alluded to how inflation is a bigger problem that what was imagined and made reference to how rising rates will likely be the cure and that resolution is nowhere near at this point.

Shit is likely going to get a whole lot worse.

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[joswift]

I am almost practically convinced that THAT is the goal from all of this, a Great Reset.

The USA is also going in that direction. Today, the chair of the US Federal Reserve (Central Bank) pretty much alluded to how inflation is a bigger problem that what was imagined and made reference to how rising rates will likely be the cure and that resolution is nowhere near at this point.

Shit is likely going to get a whole lot worse.

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my "conspiracy theorist" friends who have been spot on since day one agree.

[Henda]

I’m sure they already gave those on the dole 600 quid or so I assume since they are in the house all bastard day while rest of us are at work they need more help towards there energy bills. Though they did give us all 150 quid back out our council tax a while ago 

[joswift]

I’m sure they already gave those on the dole 600 quid or so I assume since they are in the house all bastard day while rest of us are at work they need more help towards there energy bills. Though they did give us all 150 quid back out our council tax a while ago

well yes, and council tax is certainly value for money.
Mostly police and fire brigade which 99% of the population dont need.

[Henda]

well yes, and council tax is certainly value for money.
Mostly police and fire brigade which 99% of the population dont need.

Haha good point I don’t recall ever using either service

[Flexacon]

Raw data spoke to me and I saw this coming months back. There is a reason the middle class will get shat on.

Since covid/lockdowns/2020 average savings were up something like threefolds (forget the exact stat) They want people to burn through those savings and back in debt.

The free pandemic money they got, turns out it wasn't free.

[Gym-Rat]

The globalist commie retards plan all along...

[Matt]

Looks like the government is only going to protect the poorest people in society from the rising fuel (Gas and Electric) price increases.

The perfect way to turn middle income families into more poor people in society.
Eventually no one will have anything and will be reliant on state handouts.

Not sure how they are going to keep paying handouts to poor people if no one is earning any money as there will be far less taxation and as such the government will have less money.

I suppose they will just keep borrowing from the World bank.

Boris has promised more cash for the poorest over winter to help with fuel bills.

Amazing really because the government doesnt actually have any money apart from the taxes the people pay.
So if its not coming from taxation its coming from more borrowing.

Remember the Great Reset?
You will own nothing and you will be happy.

Yep - looks like that's the point.

This thread is depressing to me because in years or decades past, I always feared these far-left ideas coming to fruition decades from now. But it was basically background noise that I could tune out.

I don't feel that way anymore. I feel like those wishing for global communism are coming much closer to getting it. Hence why I find this thread depressing...it's just a reminder of that.

But I guess it's better to be ready for this.

[cart@@n]

[Mayday]

The inflation doesn’t go away for maybe 10yrs because they aren’t raising rates high enough.

So likely They’ll introduce the social score system like China alongside the UBI.

Sell the idea as only bad people get cut off. it launches and people behaving like utter spastics online suddenly get banned and cut off UBI. People cheer. Then anyone who has a different opinion to the narrative gets banned and cut off UBI and reality hits home.

[joswift]

The inflation doesn’t go away for maybe 10yrs because they aren’t raising rates high enough.

So likely They’ll introduce the social score system like China alongside the UBI.

Sell the idea as only bad people get cut off. it launches and people behaving like utter spastics online suddenly get banned and cut off UBI. People cheer. Then anyone who has a different opinion to the narrative gets banned and cut off UBI and reality hits home.

then the people cut off have no resort but to turn to crime

The current benefits system acually keeps crime figures down

[IroNat]

I will no longer pay my energy bills

The British government has failed to shield working people from rising costs, while energy giants make record profits.

Regulators have said that the average energy bill will reach 3,549 pounds ($4,164) in October this year, compared with 1,400 pounds ($1,642) a year ago. And in January 2023, it’s expected to go up again to 4,266 pounds ($5,005).

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/8/27/heres-why-i-will-guy-pay-my-energy-bills

[Henda]

It’s not actually that hard to start stealing the fucking electric if so many of us do it what the fuck they going to do ?

[Marvin Martian]

Yep - looks like that's the point.

This thread is depressing to me because in years or decades past, I always feared these far-left ideas coming to fruition decades from now. But it was basically background noise that I could tune out.

I don't feel that way anymore. I feel like those wishing for global communism are coming much closer to getting it. Hence why I find this thread depressing...it's just a reminder of that.

But I guess it's better to be ready for this.

You say this but you idolize a bum that wants to live with you who proudly brags of being on welfare and also scamming people. You are extremely liberal Matt

[tommywishbone]

It started as American regime change- get Trump out at any cost.  Then they lost control of the fire they started.

Then all the free stuff.

Then nobody wants to work.

Then let crime go unpunished.

Then let politician make ANY rules they wish.

Now they see the opportunity to wall themselves off and gorge on tax dollars.

Remedy? Kill every single politician above the rank of mayor. Kill them all. Burn ‘em. Shoot ‘em. Hit in the head with a big ol’ rock. Stab them.  Just kill them.

But nobody is going to die. Free shit is awesome! These people love us!

[Flexacon]

It’s not actually that hard to start stealing the fucking electric if so many of us do it what the fuck they going to do ?

They forced (tricked) people into getting smart meters so that option is gone for most. They can monitor usage now so they know if your meters are out or have been tampered with.

I kept the legacy prepayment card and key meters at my flats. Stealing gas just needs some extra pipework, but wouldn't recommend it in case you blow yourself up.

Electricity is easy. Pull out the meter and then put it back in and half the time the screen goes blank (repeat until you get the desired outcome) and you'll get free electricity for 6 months. Alternative is to add wiring to by pass the meter. Wouldn't recommend that either though as it's a massive fire risk.

[a_pupil]

The previous rise was understandable but this one is ridiculous. Energy bill is like a mortgage/rent payment after this.

UK's turned into a banana republic since that oaf boris took over.

[Henda]

They forced (tricked) people into getting smart meters so that option is gone for most. They can monitor usage now so know if your meters are out or have been tampered with.

I kept the legacy prepayment card and key meters at my flats. Stealing gas just needs some extra pipework, but wouldn't recommend it in case you blow yourself up.

Electricity is easy. Pull out the meter and then put it back in and most of the time the screen goes blank (repeat if necessary) and you'll get free electricity for 6 months. Alternative is to add wiring to by pass the meter. Wouldn't recommend that either though as it's a massive fire risk.

I thought about that with the smart meter shit my plan if it gets too bad is to get a few meter tails and run them to a second distribution board from the side before the meter and run just the power hungry circuits (kitchen, utility ect) off the stolen electric I need to replace my kitchen at the same time as moving it into another room same with the utility room so will need to rewire anyway Will include big electric fire in new kitchen/diner/living area and blast that all winter. Say consumption dropped as I’m out more

Thought about your gas idea too after watching northern gas repair a gas main I burst at work they simply wrapped it in denso tape to seal till properly repaired and used a fitting similar to the push fit plumbing, looked online and these fittings are readily available so thought of taking a t off and running boiler from new pipe work (Fitted by gas fitter) and keeping fire and cooker on existing. Was just going to clamp the plastic pipe shut further down the line while fitting the t piece 

[Flexacon]

I thought about that with the smart meter shit my plan if it gets too bad is to get a few meter tails and run them to a second distribution board from the side before the meter and run just the power hungry circuits (kitchen, utility ect) off the stolen electric I need to replace my kitchen at the same time as moving it into another room same with the utility room so will need to rewire anyway Will include big electric fire in new kitchen/diner/living area and blast that all winter. Say consumption dropped as I’m out more

Thought about your gas idea too after watching northern gas repair a gas main I burst at work they simply wrapped it in denso tape to seal till properly repaired and used a fitting similar to the push fit plumbing, looked online and these fittings are readily available so thought of taking a t off and running boiler from new pipe work (Fitted by gas fitter) and keeping fire and cooker on existing. Was just going to clamp the plastic pipe shut further down the line while fitting the t piece

If you've got smart meters then I'd just stop using gas and electric for a week or weekend. Call up your provider and tell them you can't afford to top up/pay bills. They'll offer you a payment plan to help, tell them that aint gonna do fuck all and you'll just move out to your mums or something to save money. Now they'll think your usage is zero, but won't cut your supply and you'll just be paying standing charge.

This is when you hack the supply for free utilities. They will eventually send a warrant officer around though to inspect your meters, but that's after around 6 months. Worst thing they can do is blacklist you so you can't use that provider.

Your half and half way is a better solution as long as no one ever comes to check your meters.

[Walter Sobchak]

You say this but you idolize a bum that wants to live with you who proudly brags of being on welfare and also scamming people. You are extremely liberal Matt

“Hey Getbig, can you give me a couple thousand dollars so I can pretend I’m flying to London to fight Uncle Joon and scam you out of your money?
- Josh “Arce” Rehaluk

[Mayday]

then the people cut off have no resort but to turn to crime

The current benefits system acually keeps crime figures down

The current system encourages bad behaviour. Ie you can be absolute scum and still get all benefits so where is the incentive to do better?

We would think that to be the outcome but look at China and the outcome is it simply crushes people who do not comply. You lose transport. You can’t get credit. You can’t move cities. You lose job opportunities. You get publicly shamed. Only the lowest of society end up like that, the rest pull into line.

Here on prison island we already have facial recognition being developed for public transport. China did the same and used it to cut off transport to petty crims because that’s how they move around.

It’ll be sold as all positive and it will work crazy well but you end up losing your own free speech.

Go back through history and when people pick the harshest outcomes on criminals and how we should be doing that today, those periods were also the hardest on free speech.

[wordy]

The previous rise was understandable but this one is ridiculous. Energy bill is like a mortgage/rent payment after this.

UK's turned into a banana republic since that oaf boris took over.

And the person taking over is just as thick and almost as lazy. Only saving grace is that she might not be as corrupted by the Russians.