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usa give some appreaction to patera and the knipper.
« on: July 09, 2023, 01:03:42 PM »
these guys were the closest to the world record press when it was eliminated from competition in 1972.
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2023, 01:04:33 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2023, 01:06:50 PM »
   
   
 
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2023, 01:22:45 PM »
The clean and press was a fantastic exercise now very seldom seen.  It go to the point where guys were leaning back to turn it into a standing incline bench. Also some lifts were passed with a little snap of the knees. With modern electronic means the Weightlifting judges could eliminate excessive lean back but that would prove to be too involved in competitions. I could be happy watching Olympic lifting meets with just the clean and jerk eliminating the snatch.

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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2023, 12:35:05 AM »
1/2 way thru Pateras new book, excellent read. That Olympic games was the one (Munich Massacre) 1972 Summer Games.
Palestinian scumbags murdered Israeli athletes. Crazy stories...

His times when he moved in w/ Flair, also crazy. (Flair wasnt a wrestler yet, Ken got him the gig w/ Verne Gagne).

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2023, 12:39:31 AM »
The clean and press was a fantastic exercise now very seldom seen.  It go to the point where guys were leaning back to turn it into a standing incline bench. Also some lifts were passed with a little snap of the knees. With modern electronic means the Weightlifting judges could eliminate excessive lean back but that would prove to be too involved in competitions. I could be happy watching Olympic lifting meets with just the clean and jerk eliminating the snatch.
I agree. They could even have 3 lifts again like powerlifting. Olympic weightlifting is the most boring of all strength sports. Almost unwatchable.

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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2023, 01:04:59 AM »
I agree. They could even have 3 lifts 4-lifts (strict curl) again like powerlifting. Olympic weightlifting is the most boring of all strength sports. Almost unwatchable.

Fixed ^^  ;)

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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2023, 01:06:42 AM »
Fixed ^^  ;)
Curling would be added to powerlifting as it is nothing like weightlifting.

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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2023, 01:15:53 AM »
Patera throws 485 overhead like an empty bar...


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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2023, 01:18:35 AM »
Patera almost certainly would have won the gold medal had he not had a shoulder injury. He settled for a bronze which screwed up his "strongest man in the world" claim he was going to use in wrestling.

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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2023, 03:11:44 AM »
Patera almost certainly would have won the gold medal had he not had a shoulder injury. He settled for a bronze which screwed up his "strongest man in the world" claim he was going to use in wrestling.

Gold or silver was his (he was up against Alexiev after-all).
It was more his knee than his shoulder (though both bothered him) and he tells of it in his new book.

Verne Gagne (and then Vince) still promoted him as "One of the strongest men in the world" and "Olympic Strongman".

I spent 3 hours shoulder to shoulder with Patera on a couch in NJ Newark Marriott bar (2013) and also Wilhelm and his wife.
Ken and I traded rum and cokes for hours, he was impressed I kept up with him. He actually tapped out first.   :D

Hilarious guy, photographic memory, tons of great stories..

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Re: usa give some appreaction to patera and the knipper.
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2023, 04:03:48 AM »
Curling would be added to powerlifting as it is nothing like weightlifting.


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Re: usa give some appreaction to patera and the knipper.
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2023, 04:23:32 AM »
Russ Knipps not as well known brother:


Don Knipp

1974

Mr USA - AAU, Short, 4th

1979

Masters Mr America - AAU, Short, 3rd
Masters Mr USA - AAU, Short, 2nd
Mr Middle Atlantic - AAU, 5th

1980

Masters Mr America - AAU, MiddleWeight, 1st
Orange County (CA) Championships - AAU, Masters, 2nd

1981

Gold's Classic - NPC, MiddleWeight, 3rd
Masters Mr America - AAU, MiddleWeight, 2nd

1982

Masters Nationals - NPC, MiddleWeight, 1st


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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2023, 05:23:56 AM »
And his drunk cousin, Vodka Nip (Knipp)..

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Re: usa give some appreaction to patera and the knipper.
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2023, 06:05:34 AM »
And his drunk cousin, Vodka Nip (Knipp)..
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2023, 01:19:34 AM »
Gold or silver was his (he was up against Alexiev after-all).
It was more his knee than his shoulder (though both bothered him) and he tells of it in his new book.

Verne Gagne (and then Vince) still promoted him as "One of the strongest men in the world" and "Olympic Strongman".

I spent 3 hours shoulder to shoulder with Patera on a couch in NJ Newark Marriott bar (2013) and also Wilhelm and his wife.
Ken and I traded rum and cokes for hours, he was impressed I kept up with him. He actually tapped out first.   :D

Hilarious guy, photographic memory, tons of great stories..
That's right, his knee. I got my joints mixed up. Hadn't he already beat Alexiev in the World Championships?

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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2023, 01:37:33 AM »
That's right, his knee. I got my joints mixed up. Hadn't he already beat Alexiev in the World Championships?

Ken took 2nd to Alexiev in the 1971 World Weightlifting Championships.
In the 1972 Olympics, he bombed out because of his knee. Plagued him all thru his Wrestling as well, had to wear a brace on lots of occasions.

Vasiliy Alexeev, who once said of Patera, “He (Ken Patera) is stronger than me – but my superior technique gives me the edge.”

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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2023, 01:39:06 AM »
Ken took 2nd to Alexiev in the 1971 World Weightlifting Championships.
In the 1972 Olympics, he bombed out because of his knee. Plagued him all thru his Wrestling as well, had to wear a brace on lots of occasions.

Vasiliy Alexeev, who once said of Patera, “He (Ken Patera) is stronger than me – but my superior technique gives me the edge.”
His time in prison gave his knee time to heal. ;D

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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2023, 01:48:45 AM »
His time in prison gave his knee time to heal. ;D

"I didn't throw the fuckin' rock"!!!   :D

Booze can cause many issues for people, and that was a big issue...

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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2023, 11:38:52 AM »
Ken's saying "F**k these bastards, I need a beer"...

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Participant
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URS
URS
Vasily Alekseyev
640
S
FRG
FRG
Rudolf Mang
610
B
GDR
GDR
Gerd Bonk
572.5
4
FIN
FIN
Jouko Leppa
572.5
5
GDR
GDR
Manfred Rieger
557.5
6
TCH
TCH
Petr Pavlasek
557.5
7
FIN
FIN
Kalevi Lahdenranta
555
8
CUB
CUB
Fernando Bernal Salas
545
9
SWE
SWE
Ove Johansson
545
10
GBR
GBR
Terrence Robert John Perdue
512.5
11
BRA
BRA
Thamer Chaim
490
USA
USA
Kenneth Wayne Patera
212.5
BEL
BEL
Serge Reding
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2023, 03:26:10 AM »
"I didn't throw the fuckin' rock"!!!   :D

Booze can cause many issues for people, and that was a big issue...
Too bad Alexeev never got into wrestling and Karelin into MMA.