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Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« on: August 16, 2023, 06:35:00 PM »
Whoa.  Good idea?  Bad idea?

Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED - after court throws out two mother's appeal over their prison sentences for children's truancy
State Supreme Court upholds schools' discretion to decide what 'reasonable' attendance means
A quarter of the state's students attend less than 90 per cent of the time 
By DOMINIC YEATMAN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED:  16 August 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12413699/Parents-kids-skip-school-regular-basis-sentenced-PRISON-new-Missouri-law-mother-handed-15-day-jail-term-grade-son-absent-13-days.html

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2023, 11:58:36 AM »
Whoa.  Good idea?  Bad idea?

Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED - after court throws out two mother's appeal over their prison sentences for children's truancy
State Supreme Court upholds schools' discretion to decide what 'reasonable' attendance means
A quarter of the state's students attend less than 90 per cent of the time 
By DOMINIC YEATMAN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED:  16 August 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12413699/Parents-kids-skip-school-regular-basis-sentenced-PRISON-new-Missouri-law-mother-handed-15-day-jail-term-grade-son-absent-13-days.html


Very bad idea.   If the parent is in jail, who cares for the kid.  Better options available
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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2023, 01:12:24 PM »

Very bad idea.   If the parent is in jail, who cares for the kid.  Better options available

I don't know what I think about this.  On one hand, I agree with you.  On the other, if the parent is not caring for the kid, and the kid is out breaking the law and endangering people, then maybe the kid should be in foster care.  This could be a deterrent to parents who don't take care of their kids.  But I'm not sure it will work.

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2023, 01:33:25 PM »
I don't know what I think about this.  On one hand, I agree with you.  On the other, if the parent is not caring for the kid, and the kid is out breaking the law and endangering people, then maybe the kid should be in foster care.  This could be a deterrent to parents who don't take care of their kids.  But I'm not sure it will work.

I think sticking them in foster care temporarily might be a better option.  I don't like the prison idea.  I live in Missouri, it's a fairly whacked state.

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2023, 01:46:34 PM »
I think sticking them in foster care temporarily might be a better option.  I don't like the prison idea.  I live in Missouri, it's a fairly whacked state.

Man you have been living all over the place.  Gives you a great American experience.

I don't like the prison idea either.  I'd be ok with treating this as a non-criminal offense, more like a traffic ticket.  Fine them.  But then what happens if they don't pay?  I don't know.

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2023, 01:52:14 PM »
Man you have been living all over the place.  Gives you a great American experience.

I don't like the prison idea either.  I'd be ok with treating this as a non-criminal offense, more like a traffic ticket.  Fine them.  But then what happens if they don't pay?  I don't know.

If they don't pay they get a "FTP" (failure to pay).  The parents are then responsible for it.  It goes on their credit and if they are pulled over it comes up when they run their driver's license through the system. 

One of the problems is that at a certain age.  not sure what it is, but it's at least 16, the kids can just leave and parents can't do anything about it.     This what a police officer told me once.

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2023, 01:55:26 PM »
Whoa.  Good idea?  Bad idea?

Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED - after court throws out two mother's appeal over their prison sentences for children's truancy
State Supreme Court upholds schools' discretion to decide what 'reasonable' attendance means
A quarter of the state's students attend less than 90 per cent of the time 
By DOMINIC YEATMAN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED:  16 August 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12413699/Parents-kids-skip-school-regular-basis-sentenced-PRISON-new-Missouri-law-mother-handed-15-day-jail-term-grade-son-absent-13-days.html

Holding the parents or guardians responsible for their children's truancy is nothing new. But, jailing them is as best as I know.

The law in Tennessee goes so far as to include legal action being made against the parent(s).

California Penal Code § 270.1 PC makes it a crime for parents or guardians to fail to provide reasonable supervision and enforcement of their child's school attendance.

In Texas some parents could face criminal penalties for not making their children go to school.

Kentucky's penal code states Any parent, guardian, or custodian who intentionally fails to comply with the requirements of KRS 159.010  to 159.170 (Compulsory education laws), shall be fined one hundred dollars ($100) for the first offense, and two hundred fifty dollars ($250) for the second offense. Each subsequent offense shall be classified as a Class B misdemeanor.

Under Oregon law, eight unexcused one-half day absences in any four-week period during the school year constitutes truancy. Parents who fail to ensure compliance can face a maximum $500 fine.

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2023, 01:58:44 PM »
If they don't pay they get a "FTP" (failure to pay).  The parents are then responsible for it.  It goes on their credit and if they are pulled over it comes up when they run their driver's license through the system. 

One of the problems is that at a certain age.  not sure what it is, but it's at least 16, the kids can just leave and parents can't do anything about it.     This what a police officer told me once.

I think the law everywhere requires kids to be in school till they are 18? 

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2023, 02:01:03 PM »
I think the law everywhere requires kids to be in school till they are 18?

I don't think so.  They can drop out, right?


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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2023, 02:08:59 PM »
I don't think so.  They can drop out, right?

I don't know.  I'm guessing.  I just always thought every kid was required to be in school till they were 18. 

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2023, 02:20:00 PM »
I've always been under the impression that the age was 16. But I'm not 100% confident.

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2023, 02:21:55 PM »
Whoa.  Good idea?  Bad idea?

Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED - after court throws out two mother's appeal over their prison sentences for children's truancy
State Supreme Court upholds schools' discretion to decide what 'reasonable' attendance means
A quarter of the state's students attend less than 90 per cent of the time 
By DOMINIC YEATMAN FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED:  16 August 2023
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12413699/Parents-kids-skip-school-regular-basis-sentenced-PRISON-new-Missouri-law-mother-handed-15-day-jail-term-grade-son-absent-13-days.html


Yeah great idea - even more blacks will be locked up - as if enough
aren't already !!

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2023, 03:31:12 PM »
I have noticed that people from Missouri are mostly white trash.
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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2023, 05:07:15 PM »
I have noticed that people from Missouri are mostly white trash.

Would these be people you've seen in the media? Or is your opinion based on personal experience from times when you visited Missouri?

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2023, 06:32:08 PM »
I have noticed that people from Missouri are mostly white trash.

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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2023, 02:39:08 PM »
Would these be people you've seen in the media? Or is your opinion based on personal experience from times when you visited Missouri?
Media. Seems like a lot strange stories come out of Missouri.
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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2023, 03:08:53 PM »
Media. Seems like a lot strange stories come out of Missouri.

Thanks. Obviously, I don't know much about Missouri or the people who live there. -Just checked the median average house price which is pretty low at $227,000.

My son attended a work related conference in St. Louis last May. He said the ride through the Gateway Arch was cool. Also, he and my grandson caught a Cardinals game at the Busch Stadium. 


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Re: Missouri parents whose kids skip school can now be JAILED
« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2023, 03:30:57 PM »
I think the law everywhere requires kids to be in school till they are 18?

Yes, and parents have always been responsible for their kids being in school unless the kid has been emancipated. I went through this with my ex-wife. Long story, but she almost went to jail because she would let my step son stay home when ever he didn’t feel like going, or ditching class. It was a huge deal in our divorce proceedings