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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1000 on: October 16, 2025, 11:16:39 AM »
This is 100% truth.  While Trump is flying to Egypt to sign a historic peace deal, Schumer and Co are here scrambling to find a message to support their gov't shutdown.

If you didn't think they could sink any lower, you'd be wrong.

They are a complete mess of a party.

You are in a bizzaro world if you think the libs are the reason the government is shut down lol.

Everything trump does is for his own glory, the guy was begging for the nobel . It's sad to see people support such a failure of a human being.

Answer me a question, Biden got more votes that anyone in history, was that a landslide? was that a mandate? are you able to answer the question truthfully?

a third of the country didnt vote, a third voted against him and you guys are acting like he has some mandate to shove through anything he wants like a dictator, meanwhile every reasonable poll shows he is underwater on everything.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1001 on: October 16, 2025, 11:29:52 AM »
none of what you are saying is true, it appears you don;t understand what the words you are meaning actually mean. Trump got less overall votes than biden by a wide margin and no one said Biden had a mandate. I know thats what you want to believe so you can trample others rights and become that right wing authoritarian country you would love it to be.

The shut the government down HAHAHAHAHAAH.

You are fully retarded. You have the president, senate and congress and the libs shut the goverment down. I love how they won't swear him the deciding vote on the epstein files.

Have some common sense my man.

Biden was a weekend at bernies prop, hilarious to see tbh, trump is a fucking moron who is destroying your country. He fucked the farmers fucking hard, wants journalists to sign onto these insane rules so they can spoonfeed the press the "news".

It’s 1000% true and accurate. They have nothing and Newsom’s unconditional attempt at redistricting is even more proof of their desperation.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1002 on: October 16, 2025, 11:32:53 AM »
You are in a bizzaro world if you think the libs are the reason the government is shut down lol.

Everything trump does is for his own glory, the guy was begging for the nobel . It's sad to see people support such a failure of a human being.

Answer me a question, Biden got more votes that anyone in history, was that a landslide? was that a mandate? are you able to answer the question truthfully?

a third of the country didnt vote, a third voted against him and you guys are acting like he has some mandate to shove through anything he wants like a dictator, meanwhile every reasonable poll shows he is underwater on everything.

Sounds like you have no idea what’s even going on

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1003 on: October 16, 2025, 11:45:23 AM »
You are in a bizzaro world if you think the libs are the reason the government is shut down lol.

Everything trump does is for his own glory, the guy was begging for the nobel . It's sad to see people support such a failure of a human being.

Answer me a question, Biden got more votes that anyone in history, was that a landslide? was that a mandate? are you able to answer the question truthfully?

a third of the country didnt vote, a third voted against him and you guys are acting like he has some mandate to shove through anything he wants like a dictator, meanwhile every reasonable poll shows he is underwater on everything.

Even liberal hack media members like Tapper are saying it.  Here's John Fetterman's own words:

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In a stunning admission that undercut weeks of Democratic spin, Senator John Fetterman (D-PA) dropped a political grenade at a NewsNation town hall at the Kennedy Center this week — squarely blaming his own party for the federal government shutdown.

Fetterman didn’t mince words.

“That’s why shutting the government is really what the Democratic Party wants to do,” he told moderator Chris Cuomo to audible audience applause. “I follow country, then party. And it’s the wrong thing for the country.” He made clear he would not support using a shutdown as leverage in negotiations.

Fetterman, one of the Senate’s most outspoken members, openly criticized Democrats for structuring the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) subsidies to expire at the end of 2025.

“This was designed by the Democratic Party to expire at the end of the year,” he said. “This is not something taken by the Republicans.” Translation: the expiration wasn’t some conservative plot — it was baked into the policy by Democrats themselves.

So, if liberals themselves are saying it, how does that constitute a "bizarro" world.  A bizzaro world would imply NOBODY thinks it's the Democrats.  So, instead of just hurling your hyperbolic opinion as fact, why not back it up with something tangible?

As for the Biden thing you keep harping on, even though it was not part of the original point, plenty of folks said after the 2020 election that it was a referendum against Trump.  But 90% of the counties didn't shift blue, he didn't win every swing state, and his EC margin was smaller than 2024.

And Biden reversed many of Trump's policies out of spite, the most egregious being the reversal of the Stay in Mexico policy, which ultimately led to record border crossings, and causing the Trumpian landslide in 2024.

Also, Trump just negotiated Middle East peace.  How is that a fail?  And, as I've said before, if a leader aligns his ego with the goals of the country, who gives a fuck?  It's the results that count.

You're regressing dude.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1004 on: October 16, 2025, 01:33:31 PM »
Even liberal hack media members like Tapper are saying it.  Here's John Fetterman's own words:

So, if liberals themselves are saying it, how does that constitute a "bizarro" world.  A bizzaro world would imply NOBODY thinks it's the Democrats.  So, instead of just hurling your hyperbolic opinion as fact, why not back it up with something tangible?

As for the Biden thing you keep harping on, even though it was not part of the original point, plenty of folks said after the 2020 election that it was a referendum against Trump.  But 90% of the counties didn't shift blue, he didn't win every swing state, and his EC margin was smaller than 2024.

And Biden reversed many of Trump's policies out of spite, the most egregious being the reversal of the Stay in Mexico policy, which ultimately led to record border crossings, and causing the Trumpian landslide in 2024.

Also, Trump just negotiated Middle East peace.  How is that a fail?  And, as I've said before, if a leader aligns his ego with the goals of the country, who gives a fuck?  It's the results that count.

You're regressing dude.


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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1005 on: October 21, 2025, 12:17:41 PM »
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1006 on: October 21, 2025, 05:28:08 PM »
What are you guys' thoughts on Trump's approach to the Ukraine war? Financial Times had an interesting article regarding the recent Zelensky-Trump meeting.

https://archive.is/1GKwe
Nice analysis here:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/media-reveals-trumps-private-inversion

It alleges Trump was pressuring Zelensky to accept a settlement along Russian lines and it became a row with Trump 'cursing' and so on. I don't know if Trump fans here will agree, but Trump is in a bind because he's desperate to not be blamed for Ukraine's defeat. If he publicly acknowledges Putin "won" and he withdraws support he will be blamed for the defeat and will be called weak, Putin's bitch or whatever. So publicly he claims Russia's economy is shit, they have these millions of KIAs and that Ukraine can win back everything "and more," when in actuality it was just veiled sarcasm. I see the Trump-Putin Budapest meeting isn't happening now either because there's nothing to discuss, Russia holds 'all the cards.'

I guess my question is how 'should' Trump handle this debacle? Personally I have a hard time with people who constantly bluff and lie and deceive (I might have some degree of autism) :D Trump also publicly constantly badmouths Putin and the Russians have to treat him with kids gloves and keep a happy face because this is serious bidness and Trump has the 'codes.' Obviously, on a larger timeline, the US subscribes to this Grand Strategy thing, in which Russia is the enemy to be weakened and destroyed and Trump is part of that. OTOH Ukraine is a boil on Trump's ass and he'd like to pivot resources towards China for that war. He'd also like to add "nr 9" to his resumé.

"U.S. grand strategy involves coordinating all forms of national power—diplomacy, military, economic, and information—to achieve long-term foreign policy objectives, a strategy focused on maintaining American primacy through military dominance, a global alliance network, and U.S.-led international institutions. However, this approach has drawn criticism for being costly and overstretching U.S. capabilities, leading to calls for strategies like restraint or selective engagement."

Also, Trump just negotiated Middle East peace.  How is that a fail?  And, as I've said before, if a leader aligns his ego with the goals of the country, who gives a fuck?  It's the results that count.

Trump got 20 Israeli live hostages back but there's no peace. The ceasefire didn't hold at all. The 20 point Peace Plan was a joke from the beginning and there was no intention of keeping to it, on either side. Hamas won't disarm and Israel is determined to cleanse the area of Palestinians. Same old.

I don't know about you, but the designs of these US Jews to grab the land and develop prime real estate on the blood and bones of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian dead seems extremely tasteless to me.


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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1007 on: October 21, 2025, 06:34:15 PM »
What are you guys' thoughts on Trump's approach to the Ukraine war? Financial Times had an interesting article regarding the recent Zelensky-Trump meeting.

https://www.ft.com/content/7960c6aa-dbfa-4a55-91e8-ae44601842ec
Nice analysis here:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/media-reveals-trumps-private-inversion

It alleges Trump was pressuring Zelensky to accept a settlement along Russian lines and it became a row with Trump 'cursing' and so on. I don't know if Trump fans here will agree, but Trump is in a bind because he's desperate to not be blamed for Ukraine's defeat. If he publicly acknowledges Putin "won" and he withdraws support he will be blamed for the defeat and will be called weak, Putin's bitch or whatever. So publicly he claims Russia's economy is shit, they have these millions of KIAs and that Ukraine can win back everything "and more," when in actuality it was just veiled sarcasm. I see the Trump-Putin Budapest meeting isn't happening now either because there's nothing to discuss, Russia holds 'all the cards.'

I guess my question is how 'should' Trump handle this debacle? Personally I have a hard time with people who constantly bluff and lie and deceive (I might have some degree of autism) :D Trump also publicly constantly badmouths Putin and the Russians have to treat him with kids gloves and keep a happy face because this is serious bidness and Trump has the 'codes.' Obviously, on a larger timeline, the US subscribes to this Grand Strategy thing, in which Russia is the enemy to be weakened and destroyed and Trump is part of that. OTOH Ukraine is a boil on Trump's ass and he'd like to pivot resources towards China for that war. He'd also like to add "nr 9" to his resumé.

"U.S. grand strategy involves coordinating all forms of national power—diplomacy, military, economic, and information—to achieve long-term foreign policy objectives, a strategy focused on maintaining American primacy through military dominance, a global alliance network, and U.S.-led international institutions. However, this approach has drawn criticism for being costly and overstretching U.S. capabilities, leading to calls for strategies like restraint or selective engagement."


Why do you bother reading let alone quoting anything from the lying scumbag MSM.
Check the day & date on the articles as they'll even lie about them if they can & it fits
With their agenda.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1008 on: October 21, 2025, 06:35:27 PM »

I guess my question is how 'should' Trump handle this debacle?
Pull out all support, fuck ukraine.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1009 on: October 21, 2025, 06:39:18 PM »
Pull out all support, fuck ukraine.

Yes my sentiments exactly.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1010 on: October 21, 2025, 06:49:19 PM »

Why do you bother reading let alone quoting anything from the lying scumbag MSM.
Check the day & date on the articles as they'll even lie about them if they can & it fits
With their agenda.

Like I say all the time, ALL media is biased. Besides, the so-called alternative media IS the MSM now, if you count the viewership. Know what I mean? Sometimes the MSM has correct information. This piece of information isn't necessarily a bad look on Trump; some of us would say, if true, it shows Trump understands the realities ;) I'm saying this in good humor and not attacking you; I'm sure you would agree you have to be skeptical of all media, MSM or otherwise. :) I quote extreme right wing, very alternative views all the time yet folks here say I'm regurgitating MSM liberal propaganda :D

I just remembered this and I HAVE to mention it because it's so ridiculous and adds to Trump's absolutely baffling bullshitting. He said he had a call with Modi of India and Modi promised to stop buying Russian oil. But the Indians say there was no call at all!!! This shit is gold, Trump certainly delivers on the humor front (while debasing himself) :D :D :D

Pull out all support, fuck ukraine.

Some suggest Trump is "afraid" though, he's afraid of going against the neocon warhawks surrounding him. Trump needs to "win" at all costs, principles and doing what's right be damned. He can't have these Lindsey Graham and Kellog types turn against him. Midterms and such.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1011 on: October 21, 2025, 07:46:47 PM »

Some suggest Trump is "afraid" though, he's afraid of going against the neocon warhawks surrounding him. Trump needs to "win" at all costs, principles and doing what's right be damned. He can't have these Lindsey Graham and Kellog types turn against him. Midterms and such.

I don't know where you're getting your news, but Trump isn't afraid of Lindsay Graham lol.

He is going forward with his agenda that he ran on, and DGAF if anyone opposes it.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1012 on: October 21, 2025, 09:28:55 PM »
Pull out all support, fuck Israel.

Word.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1014 on: October 22, 2025, 04:13:40 AM »
Sounds like you have no idea what’s even going on

Yes congress, the president, senate and SCOTUS and its the democrats fault lololololol.

You keep saying what newsom did was unconstitutional but it clearly wasn't and seem to be fine with abbott just finding 5 more seats for a power grab.

Trump the master negotiator will soon be begging China to buy soy lol. Waste fraud and abuse, 40 billion to argentina while USAID was 35 billion total, killing it! Winning!! China has outmaneuvered him every step of the way.

Looks like trump wants you to pay for his ballroom as well.



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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1015 on: October 22, 2025, 06:28:49 AM »
Some suggest Trump is "afraid" though, he's afraid of going against the neocon warhawks surrounding him. Trump needs to "win" at all costs, principles and doing what's right be damned. He can't have these Lindsey Graham and Kellog types turn against him. Midterms and such.

I think Lindsey Graham's influence is largely confined to South Carolina and certain Republican circles. Nationally, he lacks the broad public support needed to significantly impact midterm elections. I think he's a slimy closeted homo and I think most voters have that impression as well. His appeal is quite limited beyond his home state. I doubt Trump gives two shits about Graham's impact on the midterms or the consequences of losing his support.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1016 on: October 22, 2025, 10:19:43 AM »
Even liberal hack media members like Tapper are saying it.  Here's John Fetterman's own words:

So, if liberals themselves are saying it, how does that constitute a "bizarro" world.  A bizzaro world would imply NOBODY thinks it's the Democrats.  So, instead of just hurling your hyperbolic opinion as fact, why not back it up with something tangible?

As for the Biden thing you keep harping on, even though it was not part of the original point, plenty of folks said after the 2020 election that it was a referendum against Trump.  But 90% of the counties didn't shift blue, he didn't win every swing state, and his EC margin was smaller than 2024.

And Biden reversed many of Trump's policies out of spite, the most egregious being the reversal of the Stay in Mexico policy, which ultimately led to record border crossings, and causing the Trumpian landslide in 2024.

Also, Trump just negotiated Middle East peace.  How is that a fail?  And, as I've said before, if a leader aligns his ego with the goals of the country, who gives a fuck?  It's the results that count.

You're regressing dude.

Poll after poll is showing that the majority of americans blame the republicans for the shutdown.

Obviously I am being hyperbolic, that's implied in my use of bizzaro although its not far off the truth.

What peace deal? in gaza? appears they are still shelling each other.

Biden had far more votes then trump overall, you can't cherry pick the stats to suit your narrative if you are being transparent and honest.

The ego thing is dangerous because his motives and intentions matter simply because his true intentions being hidden allows nefarious and pernicious stuff to occur around the edges. Like selling hats, meme coins, prosecuting his opponents, attacking liberal run cities under false pretenses etc.

If someone is right by accident its meaningless, you can't count on it.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1017 on: October 22, 2025, 10:30:44 AM »
Poll after poll is showing that the majority of americans blame the republicans for the shutdown.

Obviously I am being hyperbolic, that's implied in my use of bizzaro although its not far off the truth.

What peace deal? in gaza? appears they are still shelling each other.

Biden had far more votes then trump overall, you can't cherry pick the stats to suit your narrative if you are being transparent and honest.

The ego thing is dangerous because his motives and intentions matter simply because his true intentions being hidden allows nefarious and pernicious stuff to occur around the edges. Like selling hats, meme coins, prosecuting his opponents, attacking liberal run cities under false pretenses etc.

If someone is right by accident its meaningless, you can't count on it.

I don't care what the polls say, I'm saying what's actually going on.  Millions of folks went full retard this past weekend with no kings, so why would any poll going against the right surprise you.

As for Hamas not disarming, it will be to their detriment.

As for "prosecuting his opponents", that' a retard comment.  Everyone knows Trump is going after folks who committed crimes,  possibly attempted to overthrow him, and weaponized our judicial systems.  Completely opposite what these criminals did to him with Rusiagate and the phony court cases.

But I don't know what Biden's numbers have to do with anything - that's a point you brought up, not anything I said.  I was responding to Trump's landslide win.  But it wasn't cherry picking - Trump won by a larger EC vote, which is how the election is evaluated.  Your statistical anomaly popular vote is like a baseball team bragging about getting more hits, but losing the game by five runs.


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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1018 on: October 23, 2025, 10:13:23 AM »
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1019 on: October 23, 2025, 10:28:24 AM »
Jo is a paid shill.

Falls into the category of Brooklyn Douche Defiant, Harry Sisson, Brian Fagoo Cohen, etc..........they all post the same things ad-naseum.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1020 on: October 23, 2025, 01:11:55 PM »
I don't care what the polls say, I'm saying what's actually going on.  Millions of folks went full retard this past weekend with no kings, so why would any poll going against the right surprise you.

As for Hamas not disarming, it will be to their detriment.

As for "prosecuting his opponents", that' a retard comment.  Everyone knows Trump is going after folks who committed crimes,  possibly attempted to overthrow him, and weaponized our judicial systems.  Completely opposite what these criminals did to him with Rusiagate and the phony court cases.

But I don't know what Biden's numbers have to do with anything - that's a point you brought up, not anything I said.  I was responding to Trump's landslide win.  But it wasn't cherry picking - Trump won by a larger EC vote, which is how the election is evaluated.  Your statistical anomaly popular vote is like a baseball team bragging about getting more hits, but losing the game by five runs.

That's not what james is being charged with its bank fraud and false statements, of which it appears there is zero case. So he is not going after any crimes as she is not charged with any related to what you said, its clear its revenge since the charges are bogus. When they are found to be empty of merit will you change your stance? Could it be he is actually a fraud and he was actually guilty as they found and that there was no actual attempt to overthrow him or weaponize the judicial system. Surely if that occurred there would be evidence and he would not have been found guilty?

Comey's case will also be thrown out because there is simply nothing there. Trump is a fraud and crook, hence the charges.
He is doing it right in your face, the meme coin is legit stealing and fraud.

If they find no wrong doing will you change your stance?


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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1021 on: October 23, 2025, 01:47:35 PM »
That's not what james is being charged with its bank fraud and false statements, of which it appears there is zero case. So he is not going after any crimes as she is not charged with any related to what you said, its clear its revenge since the charges are bogus. When they are found to be empty of merit will you change your stance? Could it be he is actually a fraud and he was actually guilty as they found and that there was no actual attempt to overthrow him or weaponize the judicial system. Surely if that occurred there would be evidence and he would not have been found guilty?

Comey's case will also be thrown out because there is simply nothing there. Trump is a fraud and crook, hence the charges.
He is doing it right in your face, the meme coin is legit stealing and fraud.

If they find no wrong doing will you change your stance?

No, I believe the cases James and Bragg brought against Trump were political, and a blight on our judicial system.   And I firmly believe Russiagate was a hoax and an attempt to remove a duly elected President.  In fact, it was the James case that took me from being a tepid supporter of Trump (more of a lessor of two evils type) to fully believing him being elected was vital.

That doesn't change whether or not Tish committed her own fraud, or Comey gets away with it.

It would be helpful if you provided links to your statements.  When you say "it appears there's nothing there" for James, for example, even though a grand jury thought there was enough there to move forward, etc....

And, to be clear, I wanted the James and Bragg cases to be overturned in the appellate courts on their own merit, and then have both of them sanctioned or disbarred.  I didn't want Trump's election to the Presidency to affect it.  It's the only way to restore faith in our systems.  I don't know where the appeals court decision went with James, but the reports were it was going bad for her legal team, to the point they themselves were worried about being sanctioned.  And the $ penalty getting dismissed was further proof of the bias here.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #1022 on: October 24, 2025, 12:18:41 AM »
Pull out all support, fuck ukraine.

We can't, if ukraine falls into russian hands all the billionaire pedos will have to find their fuck toys on some other destitute part of the planet.