On both of these products, I tried to find some unbaised information on them but could not. Does anyone have any thoughts on these. A friend of mine is taking methyl 1-D and swears it is helping him gain the weight/strength he is putting on. While looking at it I ran into 17-Bol and was curious as to it. Also does anyone no a site that has 100% non biased info on these products. Thanks.