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texasRUSH

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how quickly do your bodies...
« on: July 12, 2006, 07:20:07 AM »
adjust to the training and stop responding? i've been on my current training regimen for 5 weeks not and i've noticed that i'm no longer gaining anything from it. this is the 5th week..and next week i'm changing it again...is this in my head or does this shit really happen?  ???  i know it takes your body time to adapt once you change it up but at a month or a little past?  ???

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2006, 07:45:12 AM »
Aside from the direct question keep in mind that your body's not going to keep gaining indefinitely, regardless of the program used, so it's unfair to put full blame on any particular program if it's doesn't keep working.

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2006, 07:52:54 AM »
well my initial program i started when i finally joined the gym killed over and i started this one and gained some more..then it stopped as well...


thinking maybe i'll go to failure with 3 exercises for each major body part and two exercises each smaller on twice a week here soon and see how THAT turns out.

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2006, 08:43:41 AM »
how do you measure that? you haven't done one single rep more in a month, or been able to put on more weight on the bar?
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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2006, 10:38:06 AM »
more reps....i'm stuck at 315 for 6 reps on the flat bench and it's driving me nutz...but on partials i can get 15 reps..

which is driving me crazy..i've been working at getting higher rep ranges in the high 200 lb ranges and it's stiill not helping...same thing with my seated shoulder presses


so i'm thinking i need a change in routine to help with this...not so much a couple of reps here and there as more of a drastic change might be needed

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2006, 11:51:46 AM »
this may not be the case for you, but at some point you will max out.... personally I rarely beat my personal bests anymore... but i've been training for more than a decade all natural...

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2006, 11:55:59 AM »
yeah that though has crossed my mind a few times...


which would be kinda scary..i've been working out for 5 years now...and would hate to think i've reached my potential

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2006, 03:14:16 PM »
the average for maxing out naturally is five years so it is highly probable you've arrived there....

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2006, 05:55:05 PM »
Actually I would not think that too many people have reached their full potentional, strength wise, no matter how many years of training they have undergone. .  Nature always seems to hold something in reserve as far as strength is concerned. Once or twice a years there's always that story about the little old 105lb lady who rushes in and lifts the rear end of a pick-up truck off a child trapped underneath. I don't think that that little  old lady worked out heavy on partial power rack DL's for set's of 3's with 1500lbs + on a bi weekly bases. That same little old lady may have been sore all over her body for a week or so, but the usually case is that she may never really suffer any major, long lasting injury(s). Once back to her Bingo game, she's as good as new. In other words, no one really knows their full strength capacity under stress.

When lifting progress seems to stagger and stop after so many years of lifting (I'm talking 10-20 years plus) than maybe the training methods and recovery time should be looked into. Unless there is nervous system disease, serious joint and back/spine problems, etc, progress still should be obtained, however slow, but increase it should. The advancing age can have a important bearing on this of course. But I've been to quited a few PL'ing meets where some of the men are in their mid fifty's or even the 60's and still are meeting or going beyond their personal best. It appears that there are more senior lifter now than ever before. Lifting for life, indeed.   If a 35 year old experienced and healthy lifter hit's a stone wall in training than it might be time for a whole new restucting of his training program, including diet. There would be doubts that he had reached his full potentional at that young age.  But in most cases, the mental outlook will be the key factor with regards to training progress, at any age of training.

As far a pure muscle size goes, Coleman, Cutler and some of the other massive Pro's seem very close to that edge of meeting their full potentional. Though I may be totally wrong and the next ten years may produce men with a cut to the bone 30" arm. To get the complete impact of their muscle development one would have to see them in person to really understand that awesome muscle mass. Pictures or videos don't come close. 

TexR may have to go in another direction and overhaul his complete training methods if he's stuck  with slow and stop training results. Might want to take a couple of weeks away from training of any kind. If he loses a lot of muscle size, in that two weeks, than he wasn't training right in the first place. Hint: Less is always more with regard to serious training. Also another little gem: Going to failure in every workout can be selfdefeating.  Good Luck.

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2006, 09:14:09 PM »
I think you know its time to change things up automatically. Unless your doing the exact same thing for same reps everyday, I think that is bad.
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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 01:39:40 PM »
hows your diet and sleeping habits bro?

thats the 1st question i always ask...too many people over-analyze their training routine without even bothering to think about diet and / rest

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2006, 06:44:59 AM »
i eat like a horse and eat clean...but lately i've been trying to shove everything i can fit in my mouth food wise.


and it helped...i pushed myself ot lift everything heavier...back...shoulde rs...tri's...etc. to get my bench up to where i wanted it to be.

since i've posted this thread where i was stuck at 315 for 5-6 reps for benching...that rep range is now up to 8.  last night my chest workout was awesome.  did the usual laddering up to 315 then hit it for 8 reps and was floored.  tried it again...8 more reps




i'm thinking eating two bananas an hour before helped with the fatigueing  :)

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2006, 05:52:35 PM »
I have 2 or 3 different routines for each bodypart and cycle them from week to week, works for me.

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Re: how quickly do your bodies...
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2006, 10:35:14 PM »
I change up all my stuff every four weeks but that is becasue I am a strength and conditioning guy for athletes so we have to constantly cycle to work on variious things and I always make sure to try out things before I make a player do them. If your body is blessed, cursed to be very adaptable then you have to take measures that others don't have to. You can actually use it to your advantage if you think about your yearly cycles. IF you aren't planning further than your next workout, start making that your first priority after nutrition.