HGH--------HGH-----------HGH

[SLYY]

Here's the problem with low dose GH, especially concerning someone who is still relatively young such as Big John. Most people produce around 2iu of gh naturally until they are in the mid-30's range, so taking in a dose of 2iu ed when you are below this age would be pointless. All you would be doing is replacing natural gh with the injected form which is not much of a benefit. So a higher dose, and I'm not implying a ridiculous dose, should be run and for an extended time for it to be worth anything.

I agree with Arlond Jr. on this.  I remember reading something like this in the past....

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

I agree with Arlond Jr. on this.  I remember reading something like this in the past....

but my question is: and not trying to be smartass either, but have you or Arnold Jr ran HGH like this at 2 iu per day?---- because Mem has done it and speaks from personal experience--and as much as I trust you and Arnolds AAS knowledge, I have to say I take experience over knowledge here

[whitewidow]

only people shooting 2 IU a day are women-
id say at least 6-8 Iu's a day- I would not know from experience- but ive talked too alot of people who have used it.

[SLYY]

-I do not know by experience...

-I remember reading somewhere (as Arnold Jr.) that we produce (at a young age) around 2IU's a day.  If my memory is correct, then taking 2IUs a day would not be sufficient...

-I believe MEM is in his 40's, if I'm not mistaken. If he is, then he produces less of the hormone than you Bigjohn.  Therefore, 2IU's would give him great results.... 

[!@#$%]

Do you think this stuff from, PHARMACIA EL RAMOZ is any good?

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

Do you think this stuff from, PHARMACIA EL RAMOZ is any good?

I dont think so--- send it to me and i will test it to be sure

[Arnold jr]

-I do not know by experience...

-I remember reading somewhere (as Arnold Jr.) that we produce (at a young age) around 2IU's a day.  If my memory is correct, then taking 2IUs a day would not be sufficient...

-I believe MEM is in his 40's, if I'm not mistaken. If he is, then he produces less of the hormone than you Bigjohn.  Therefore, 2IU's would give him great results.... 

Yes, this is my point. 2iu's is not going to have near the effect on an individual in their mid to late 20's like it would a male in their 40's such as mem.

but my question is: and not trying to be smartass either, but have you or Arnold Jr ran HGH like this at 2 iu per day?---- because Mem has done it and speaks from personal experience--and as much as I trust you and Arnolds AAS knowledge, I have to say I take experience over knowledge here

You're right, mem speaks from experience, but I'd like to know if he had the same benefits at a low dose of GH, say when he was around your or my age. That's the biggest reason I haven't run GH yet, I can't afford the dose that I would need based on my age (27).

[mem]

Yes, I am 46 years of age, in great general health,
however in gentle hormonal decline, as expected.
I am taking Serostim - known for its sides . . .
Incidentally, I  AM  N O T (sick or) HIV+
( : counting many blessings ; )

I typically do ONE cycle per year (16 weeks),
normalize (maintain) the remainder of year.

My dosage is mediated by optimum effects and comfort.
EG: carpel tunnel (a gauge? it is working) unfortunately
defines the range of my doses and intervals or breaks
from it use. My range is 2 to 4 ius each day with
short breaks between bottles. I will typically take
as large of dose as I can without great sides.

Bear in mind, I do not plan to compete.
Budget is not that much a factor of use.

I am most interested in the (localized injection) lipolysis
as much as muscular remodeling, targeted injection points.

My experience leads me to believe that even modest
doses (when used) around love handles and belly button,
that fat loss like that of lypo-suction has been ongoing
when used with adrogens and anabolics. Hgh alone had
ALMOST NO EFFECT . . . it must be combined, period.

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

well--- #1) I trust 100% what mem is saying  and #2) I see where arnold is coming from on not wanting to shell out 520 bucks for 200ius if its ineffective dose---


One think is for sure---i will know from experience soon because I am orering 200 ius and I am going to run 2iu per day for 100 days during my next cycle which will include deca, sust, tren, turanabol, and winny