Montreal Pro: Milos Sarcev's take on king beating wolf...

[irish_strenght]

that is just mean man

yea seems he is an asshole and a dumb one too all his years in the industry and the his form of constructive critisism is callin someone a fat fuck

[HRDCOR]

I gotta agree with Milos on this one , King just does not have the ablity in any condition to beat Wolf, it is a obvious state, not one for debate at a judges table, first and foremost Kings Abdomal Bloating should have had him marked down as they promised to start doing 2 years ago, this alone should have had him down 3 or 4 places, the head judge should be making sure that this happens , but you can bet your bottom dollar this never happened !!!

[irish_strenght]

I gotta agree with Milos on this one , King just does not have the ablity in any condition to beat Wolf, it is a obvious state, not one for debate at a judges tabel, first and foremost Kings Abdomal Bloating should have had him marked down as they promised to start doing 2 years ago, this alone should have had him 3rd or 4th, the head judge should be making sure that this happens , but you can bet your bottom dollar this never happened !!!

king had a lot of coverage going into the show because issues him beating wolf have caused all eyes will be wolf and king as a comparasion next time and hopefully this bullshit wont happen again

[knny187]

Lets see.....


Kamali's peers in this business all seem to agree on one thing....


Wolf > Kamali for this contest.

Only person defending Kamali is his best bud who also was given a gift this year.



THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

 

[Adam Empire]

Lets see.....


Kamali's peers in this business all seem to agree on one thing....


Wolf > Kamali for this contest.

Only person defending Kamali is his best bud who also was given a gift this year.



THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

 

Wait, MisterGX is defending Kamali too... 




Oh yeah...  MisterGX is the name Kamali posts under when he lurks on GetBig.

 

[OneMoreRep]

? ? ?CHICK WHERE ARE YOU? ? ?
Milos has made some very good points, can you maybe chip in?  For the sake of showing these fools how unbias you can are, can you at least tell us who you thought deserved 4th place between Kamali and Wolf?  Was Kamali better than Wolf?  As someone who sat right up front, I can, honestly, say that no one thought Kamali deserved 4th place.  I would have given him either 5th or 6th place, but not 4th.

? ? ?CHICK WHERE ARE YOU? ? ?

[shootfighter1]

1.  Great post Milos.  Accountibility and the ability to justify your placings are important for fairness and quality judging.
2.  I still can't believe Kamali beat Wolfe.  No way Kamali beats Wolfe when they are in similar condition.  This sport has got to get away from mass above all.  Stick to the gut and shape mandates.  Aside from the abdomen, Kamali's biceps, shoulders and quads were relatively smooth.  Kamali made great improvements and props to him but should not have beaten several of the guys that finished below him.  Look at the pics of Chamberlain.  And what happened to Rodney St. Cloud?  He looked pretty good too and finished 11th.
3.  Milos can elaborate but he did not train Wolfe for this show.  Wolfe worked out at his gym the week of the show.

[thisiskeith12]

I totally agree with Milos. This is outrageous, King got a gift, and for what?!?! What's he doing to get such a gift?

[the choad]

I totally agree with Milos. This is outrageous, King got a gift, and for what?!?! What's he doing to get such a gift?

Something very naughty behind the scenes..

[whitewidow]

Ronnie's critics amuse me. We have such an amazing champion and you can't be happy. Who would you have be Mr. Olympia? Bob Paris? lame

lol- yeah an amazing champion with an amazing gutt-

i dont give a shit if your arms are 24in and your back is freaky if you look like your about to drop a baby and your midsection is all deformed then you cant be mr.O- you can argue about any pro show-in the end your all crybabays its over and the beter man won- what else do you want? 

[1stkeepitreal]

The IFBB should be very proud of the people that they have put into positions of authority and decison making (judges). 

The IFBB is not only hurting the 'sport" that they are trying to promote but they are also leading athletes to believe that they are somehting more than they really are.  Placing guys in accordance to name recognition or dues paid is an act that the IFBB need to get away from sooner rather than later.

-keep it real-

[IceCold]

Is THAT what I said?

Please, feel free to quote any of my posts where I say that...

chick as usual avoiding the question. 

you still havent responded to any of milos's questions about getting the judges to talk about their decision. 

[jwb]

Is THAT what I said?

Please, feel free to quote any of my posts where I say that...

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Goatboy:This proves the judges are corrupt!  How the f**k could they put Tamali ahead of Wolf?  


ChickIt does prove something....you're an idiot.


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Sounds like goatboy was expressing his opinion about the result and the judging and you expressed yours about what goatboy had to say...

[Chick]

chick as usual avoiding the question. 

you still havent responded to any of milos's questions about getting the judges to talk about their decision. 

Great! I'm all for it...the judges should be held accountable.

It's also the reason I requested that all individual scores be made available to the competitors....they should be up on the IFBB site withing a few days.

[whitewidow]

everybody stop crying- too much estrogen around here! the show is over king placed 4th and beat out wolf for a spot at the O- Now there will be a dennis wolf - king kamali rivalry going on- kind of like the old titus-kamali feud-lol    is there going to be any kind of wild card? maybe wolf could sneak in too qualify for the O-

[doozejooze]

MY GOD, IF YOU EXPECT CHICK TO SAY "YEAH,YEAH-MY BOY KING SUCKED ROTTEN EGGS,BUT WE'LL BE TAKIN IT UP WITH THE IFBB TO GET THOSE PLACINGS REVERSED-DON'T YOU WORRY KIDDO." YOU JUST DON'T KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD "PALS" YOUR BOY GETS A GIFT AT A BODYBUILDING SHOW, YOU TAKE HIM OUT AND GET HIM DRUNK. YOUR BOY BOT GETS IN A FIGHT WITH A BADASS AND THAT BADASS SLIPS ON A BANANA PEEL AND YOUR BOY HIT HIM ON THE HEAD WITH A FLOWBIE-YOU TAKE YOUR BOY OUT AND GET HIM DRUNK. PALS  -  PALS

[Wombat]

i can respect Chick for sticking up for his friend in KIng...As long as Chick doesn't judge a show, i don't see a problem...

However he stated in another thread that he Believed that king beat Wolfman based on King having a better back and Wolf quads over power his calves...

My opinion is wolf beat king in the back...based on pictures i've seen, i can't for the life of me see how anyone could say differently ...wolf back was thicker and the guy obviously does some serious deadlifts for i've never seen lumbars like he sports...

As far as the quad/calf thing...Wolf quads are probably very close to the same size as kings, however the are sliced and diced where kings are pathetic...Not a single cut....and zero striations....Wolf's calves are actually slightly bigger then kings and more cut, its just wolf's quads are so cut up that they look that much more bigger...But their not...

Now on conditioning---its not even close....Wolf is easily drier then king and has striations and vascularity to boot...

i don't get Bob's assesment

[JaggyShortBuff]

Bob has to stick to what he said and it is bullshit, but it happened....Anyone involved or not could argue Kamali's placing....However, I am looking forward to laughing Kamali off the Olympia stage....

[lastrep]

I was at the show.. I will post pics later.

Anyways.. KING got a GIFT! The crowd went nuts.. just booooooooooooooooooooooo oo's all around when Dennis was announced 5th. Just bs. This bs about "paying your dues" crap is a joke. You give the man with the best physique on stage the points they deserve. Period.

Anyways.. been going to show's for over a decade now and it's sad to see this judging out there to this day and in fact getting worse.

Only right-on call was Jackson. Congrats.

[JaggyShortBuff]

I was at the show.. I will post pics later.

Anyways.. KING got a GIFT! The crowd went nuts.. just booooooooooooooooooooooo oo's all around when Dennis was announced 5th. Just bs. This bs about "paying your dues" crap is a joke. You give the man with the best physique on stage the points they deserve. Period.

Anyways.. been going to show's for over a decade now and it's sad to see this judging out there to this day and in fact getting worse.

Only right-on call was Jackson. Congrats.

Thank you for your post....And I look forward to you pics....I am trying soooo hard not to beat a dead horse, but this is a scar on bodybuilding...Seeing as how Kamali won't compete at the Olympia based on he knows he will be embarrassed....

[Milos_Sarcev]

? ? ?CHICK WHERE ARE YOU? ? ?
Milos has made some very good points, can you maybe chip in?  For the sake of showing these fools how unbias you can are, can you at least tell us who you thought deserved 4th place between Kamali and Wolf?  Was Kamali better than Wolf?  As someone who sat right up front, I can, honestly, say that no one thought Kamali deserved 4th place.  I would have given him either 5th or 6th place, but not 4th.

? ? ?CHICK WHERE ARE YOU? ? ?

You would have given him 5th or 6th place?
You are not much better than the judges...

Can you explain how and why would you place him ahead of:

5.Dennis Wolf
6.Mike Aseidu
7.Art Atwood
8.Brian Chamberlain
11.Rodney St. Cloud
12.Joel Stubbs

[arce377]

MILOS CANNOT BE QUESTIONED!

[knny187]

You would have given him 5th or 6th place?
You are not much better than the judges...

Can you explain how and why would you place him ahead of:

5.Dennis Wolf
6.Mike Aseidu
7.Art Atwood
8.Brian Chamberlain
11.Rodney St. Cloud
12.Joel Stubbs

Tough call....

Atwood & Kamali are alomst at the same level

[Cold]

my buddy attended the show and in his words "Wolfe was Kamali's daddy".