Ronnie is simply a far better bodybuilder. He was off (for him) at the O, but obviously got everything together within a weeks time and produced a more similar "ronnie" physique...maybe 90%, which EVERYONE knows is enough to make everyone else on stage at the show look like an amatuer. Never, should a mr. o have synthol arms and shoulders...it just goes against the very grain of the game of bodybuilding....and please to you idiots that will say Jay has never used synthol, I know the real thruth.