By the whey, I don't like wasting money. If u buy that value crap, u might as well be drinking Quik, or blend up your money and pour it down the drain. You want real protein? Go with a Beverly International product like Muscle Provider, or UMP, both from Beverly. Also, my personal favorite is Syntha-6 by BSN. I've tried all the protein products over the years, from ON's 100% Whey, to Musclemilk, and nothing has kept my waist leaner, while adding muscle better than these products. Spend the extra cash. Better to put your money into something that works, than throw it away on that value crap! Just my experience, and opinion.