Author Topic: What percentage of Pro's have a college Degree? (Read 5060 times)

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 21, 2007, 05:45:33 PM »

Does Bob Chick have any statistics like this?

He really should consider publishing some general statistics about IFBB pros without infringing on anyone's privacy, like percentage of college degrees, higher degrees, stuff like that...

Earl1972 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 21, 2007, 09:52:16 PM »

Quote from: ribonucleic on January 21, 2007, 05:42:17 PM

Sounds like a tacit admission of Levrone-posing-suit collecting to me.

To answer your earlier question: I'm sure I'll stop doing this bit when I get tired of it. But I doubt that will be any time soon.

yes simple minds will continue to recycle 4 year old weak jokes rather than coming up with their own material...

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G o a t b o y · « **Reply #27 on:** January 21, 2007, 10:59:22 PM »

Quote from: columbusdude82 on January 21, 2007, 05:45:33 PM

Does Bob Chick have any statistics like this?

I'm sure Baghdad Bob will chime in with something like "96.5% of IFBB professionals have four-year university degrees, with 56% of those having gone on to get their Master's, with 31% holding Ph D's or professional degrees. The current Mr. O is a tenured professor at Yale when he isn't competing, and the most recent former Mr. O has accepted a research grant at Stanford."

BuffGoddess · « **Reply #28 on:** January 22, 2007, 01:00:06 AM »

Most of them have some sort of higher education. We all know Bodybuilding is a fleeting thing and can't be depended on for a steady paycheck for long. I personally have 5 college degrees one of them from a university in Health and Human Performance

divcom · « **Reply #29 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:00:21 AM »

Quote from: Devon97 on January 21, 2007, 02:50:08 PM

Earned a 4 year Degree?.....not including on-line Univ of Phoenix B.S. or Community college.

What's wrong with Phoenix?

kyomu · « **Reply #30 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:26:39 AM »

Separate clearly,some has even master degree. Hide is from a very good university for example. Nasser has master also.Even Paul dillet has. Tom prince also. Arnold has. Needles to say, Frank Zane.I know more but i cant remember now.
Others are very low education levels.

DK II · « **Reply #31 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:35:28 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on January 22, 2007, 03:26:39 AM

Separate clearly,some has even master degree. Hide is from a very good university for example. Nasser has master also.Even Paul dillet has. Tom prince also. Arnold has. Needles to say, Frank Zane.I know more but i cant remember now.
Others are very low education levels.

What University is Hide from?

kyomu · « **Reply #32 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:38:14 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on January 22, 2007, 03:35:28 AM

What University is Hide from?

Waseda

DK II · « **Reply #33 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:53:36 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on January 22, 2007, 03:38:14 AM

Waseda

Really? Wow, cool. That's impressive.

kyomu · « **Reply #34 on:** January 22, 2007, 03:54:58 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on January 22, 2007, 03:53:36 AM

Really? Wow, cool. That's impressive.

Because he is from Waseda daigaku barbell club.

newmom · « **Reply #35 on:** January 22, 2007, 04:56:14 AM »

Quote from: divcom on January 22, 2007, 03:00:21 AM

What's wrong with Phoenix?

divcom I don't think there is anything wrong with it. Alot of people use their on-line studies program. Nothing wrong with learning and achieving a degree

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #36 on:** January 22, 2007, 08:18:14 AM »

Quote from: newmom on January 22, 2007, 04:56:14 AM

divcom I don't think there is anything wrong with it. Alot of people use their on-line studies program. Nothing wrong with learning and achieving a degree

Most hiring managers, when looking at someone with a "degree" from an online UofP type place, do not consider it a "real" college degree. They will almost always choose the applicant who has gotten a degree from a traditional university.

Hope this helps.

newmom · « **Reply #37 on:** January 22, 2007, 08:19:53 AM »

goatboy I'm sure you are right but there is still nothing wrong with it.

DK II · « **Reply #38 on:** January 22, 2007, 08:30:02 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on January 22, 2007, 03:54:58 AM

Because he is from Waseda daigaku barbell club.

Okay. Well, he managed the nyugaku shiken, so at least that must mean something.

divcom · « **Reply #39 on:** January 22, 2007, 08:52:37 AM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on January 22, 2007, 08:18:14 AM

Most hiring managers, when looking at someone with a "degree" from an online UofP type place, do not consider it a "real" college degree. They will almost always choose the applicant who has gotten a degree from a traditional university.

Hope this helps.

I've crossed several Qwest employees in Denver with Phoenix degrees. It's more about helping the individual advance in his or her current position.

So...you are saying South Florida, for example, RN program is BS also? They still have to do their clinicals in a traditional hospital setting. Have had several students at the Hlth and Science Center.

Bethany Howlett has a combination education with her sciences taken GW and her business (MBA/Ph.D.) at Phoenix.

Guess I'm missing something here.

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #40 on:** January 22, 2007, 09:53:17 AM »

Quote from: divcom on January 22, 2007, 08:52:37 AM

I've crossed several Qwest employees in Denver with Phoenix degrees. It's more about helping the individual advance in his or her current position.

So...you are saying South Florida, for example, RN program is BS also? They still have to do their clinicals in a traditional hospital setting. Have had several students at the Hlth and Science Center.

Bethany Howlett has a combination education with her sciences taken GW and her business (MBA/Ph.D.) at Phoenix.

Guess I'm missing something here.

You're probably right about the RN thing, because it's more about state licensing than anything else. As long as the state will accept the education and grant a license, the employer really doesn't care. Especially in light of the shortage of nurses in many places. However, there are many who say that nursing is a field that more properly belongs in a technical or trade school than in a 4-year university, and many hospital-based RN school programs do not involve getting a college bachelor's degree.

Bethany's "MBA/PhD" would almost certainly be considered a joke by someone hiring for a position that requires one of those degrees. She would be viewed only as someone who holds a BS degree, since that was taken at GW, but not as a "real" MBA or PhD.

Man of Steel · « **Reply #41 on:** January 22, 2007, 10:12:38 AM »

Quote from: Campeon Del Mundo on January 21, 2007, 03:18:28 PM

with the way the US job market is going, who needs a college degree?

Over the course of the last few years I have seen several folks that are non-college graduate new hires getting paid college-graduate level dollars with very little experience in the particular field they are hired. I guess that could be a piss off for some college graduates that busted their asses in school, but those overpaid new hires aren't going to progress anywhere else in their "careers". I think some companies are cuttin folks a break here and there, but that same "break" also represents the pinnacle of their careers.....they'll be hard pressed to move on to higher level position and will just work that job forever.

Man of Steel · « **Reply #42 on:** January 22, 2007, 10:17:16 AM »

Quote from: divcom on January 22, 2007, 03:00:21 AM

What's wrong with Phoenix?

Nothing, but there's a vast difference between online classwork and traditional classwork.....night and day difference in my opinion. If I received resumes from 2 applicants and both had the same degree and experience, but one earned a degree via online work and the other from traditional schooling I'd immediately be biased towards the traditionally educated applicant. Not suggesting one is smarter than the other, but I think one has worked harder than the other.

Chick · « **Reply #43 on:** January 22, 2007, 10:32:49 AM »

Quote from: columbusdude82 on January 21, 2007, 05:45:33 PM

Does Bob Chick have any statistics like this?

He really should consider publishing some general statistics about IFBB pros without infringing on anyone's privacy, like percentage of college degrees, higher degrees, stuff like that...

What difference would it make?

What would be the point in taking the time to conduct such a survey?

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #44 on:** January 22, 2007, 10:37:54 AM »

Quote from: Chick on January 22, 2007, 10:32:49 AM

What difference would it make?

What would be the point in taking the time to conduct such a survey?

So we can be entertained by how uneducated "professional bodybuilders" are and how woefully unprepared for "life after the IFBB" they really are.

Chick · « **Reply #45 on:** January 22, 2007, 10:48:10 AM »

I would worry about yourself, and how you're going to prepare for life when you're not spending 18 out of 24 hours on a bodybuilding forum wondering about pro's and how they live their lives...

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #46 on:** January 22, 2007, 11:15:37 AM »

Quote from: Chick on January 22, 2007, 10:48:10 AM

I would worry about yourself, and how you're going to prepare for life when you're not spending 18 out of 24 hours on a bodybuilding forum wondering about pro's and how they live their lives...

18 Hours/day? I only average 10 posts a day... seems like you're on here more than I am, and unlike me, you DO need to worry about making a living.

Special Ed · « **Reply #47 on:** January 22, 2007, 11:41:37 AM »

TOP TEN PRO BODYBUILDER ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENTS (originally posted 10/31/06)

1. Ronnie Coleman - Masters Degree in Public Speaking
2. Victor Martinez - Devry Institute MBA in Gym Business Operations
3. Milos Sarcev - PhD in Experimental and Applied Petroleum Sciences
4. Flex Wheeler - MBA in Marketing/Customer Relations
5. Dennis James - Learning Annex Certificate in Import/Export Businesses
6. Mustafa Mohammed - Advanced Degree from Carlton Sheets: How to Buy Property with Little or No Money of Your Own
7. Melvin Anthony - Beauty School certificate as Manicurist
8. Bob Cicherillo - B.S. in Labor Relations
9. Craig Titus - Correspondence Degree in Cremation from Phoenix Online University
10. King Kamali - JD and LLM from Harvard Law School

Special "Some Cum Loudly" Ed

kyomu · « **Reply #48 on:** January 22, 2007, 11:53:52 AM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on January 22, 2007, 08:30:02 AM

Okay. Well, he managed the nyugaku shiken, so at least that must mean something.

Yeah. I dont know what faculity he was in, but its extremely tough to pass the entrance exam of waseda.
As you know,japanese university are very tough to enter.

Chick · « **Reply #49 on:** January 22, 2007, 11:55:15 AM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on January 22, 2007, 11:15:37 AM

18 Hours/day? I only average 10 posts a day... seems like you're on here more than I am, and unlike me, you DO need to worry about making a living.

"seems like it"?

I've got 3,000 posts...OVER 7 YEARS.

With over 5,000 since you came on board...looks like you need to take a math course.