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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2007, 02:57:00 PM »
What I'm really asking is - did they reach some sort of mutual blackmail agreement at some point and agree to go their separate ways? 

When you put it that way: I have no idea. Sean or Chick might have been in a position to know if they had been major players then - but they weren't, so they aren't. So no one here knows shit.

But I find this 100% plausible. In real life, confrontations between powerful men don't play out the way it's portrayed in movies. It doesn't sound like a Tarantino, or even a Michael Mann film - it sounds more like two rival mall developers getting the real negotiations done over lunch at the local diner. There's a tacit knowledge of combativeness on both sides, but it's subsumed into a blandly collegial kind of discourse.

So in whatever meeting room (or airport bar) Arnold and Joe Weider sat down opposite each for the financial divorce, I'm sure there was a fascinating mixture of fear, anger, greed, and a narcissistically-shallow kind of familial affection. [Joe was the true father of the man Arnold became; Arnold was Joe's greatest achievement in his self-invented art form of commercial muscle glorification] It would make a great one-act play for David Mamet [though the audience would have to imagine (like they did when staging The Elephant Man) Olympia-sized muscles on the generally unremarkable body of a talented Off-Broadway actor].

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2007, 08:09:45 PM »
Bingo, but AVBG is probably right.  Doesn't matter how delicately it's worded.

How about:
1. Is there anyone in particular you'd like to thank for your success, whether in bodybuilding, Hollywood, or politics?

2. Why has bodybuilding become such a villified fringe pursuit when it could have become the world's #1 path to healthy living? 

3. What are your views on the future of bodybuilding and it's judging standards?

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2007, 04:28:17 AM »
Bingo, but AVBG is probably right.  Doesn't matter how delicately it's worded.

How about:
1. Is there anyone in particular you'd like to thank for your success, whether in bodybuilding, Hollywood, or politics?

2. Why has bodybuilding become such a villified fringe pursuit when it could have become the world's #1 path to healthy living? 

3. What are your views on the future of bodybuilding and it's judging standards?

Answer to question one is easy... Arnold.

Without Arnold's shadow casting over Franco, he'd be nothing.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #78 on: January 27, 2007, 07:51:21 AM »
Answer to question one is easy... Arnold.

Without Arnold's shadow casting over Franco, he'd be nothing.

He may have had another 4-5 Sandows under his belt if not for Arnolds "shadow"....

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #79 on: January 27, 2007, 08:25:38 AM »
He may have had another 4-5 Sandows under his belt if not for Arnolds "shadow"....

I may be misreading you... but you appear to be saying that Franco would have won more Mr. O titles if Arnold hadn't been competing.

I would respectfully disagree. Franco was amazing in his own right - and, relative to his comparatively poor genetics, arguably a more accomplished bodybuilder than Arnold. But especially in that era, when aesthetics were given more than just lip service, someone like Serge Nubret would have owned him from Monday through Sunday.


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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2007, 08:40:40 AM »
There were many Olympia which came down to Franco (short clas winner) and Arnold (tall class winner)...in which Arnold won every match-up.

The Tall class simply wasnt that good...or deep...Arnold winning uncontested in a few.

There is no doubt Franco would have won in Arnolds absence.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2007, 08:47:34 AM »
There were many Olympia which came down to Franco (short clas winner) and Arnold (tall class winner)...in which Arnold won every match-up.

The Tall class simply wasnt that good...or deep...Arnold winning uncontested in a few.

There is no doubt Franco would have won in Arnolds absence.
I dont know all my Olympia history perfectly so correct me if Im wrong but Serge Nubret (IMO) would smoke Franco anyday of the week.  Franco did have a back from another universe when you look at the physiques in that time frame but Serge Nubret was more solid than Franco, also Robby Robinson, and even Frank Zane.  Franco won as many Olympias as he should have IMO.
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2007, 10:30:59 AM »
There were many Olympia which came down to Franco (short clas winner) and Arnold (tall class winner)...in which Arnold won every match-up.

The Tall class simply wasnt that good...or deep...Arnold winning uncontested in a few.

There is no doubt Franco would have won in Arnolds absence.

Hmmmm... let's analyze this, Chick. Franco was good -- yes. But to suggest he would've won more Olympia titles if not for Arnold? Sorry, Chick, but I beg to differ. Sergio Oliva was still in the game and would've won in '70 and '72 if not for Arnold. Serge Nubret would've won in '74 and '75 if not for Arnold.

Again, Franco was good in his own right, but to put HIS physique in the forefront against these notable athletes is ludicrous.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2007, 03:43:31 PM »
It's not ludicrious...it's very debatable.

Taking Arnold out of the equasion...lets look at the results from a few O's:

Franco wins his class in 74 and 75, 76 and beats Zane in all

Zane wins 77, 78, 79 without Franco in the line-up

Arnold comes back to win in 1980

Franco wins again in 81 (although not in my opinion)

What MAY have happened had FRanco faced Nubret instead of Arnold is pure speculation....Nubret was great, but had many weaknesses, and could have easily been beaten by Franco.


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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2007, 04:08:14 PM »
Nubret was great, but had many weaknesses...

You wish you had weaknesses like these!  ::)




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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2007, 05:04:55 PM »
Ask him:

1. Does he miss bodybuilding at all?
2. Does he think he deserved to beat Sergio in 1972?
3. Would he ever want/let his kids to go into pro bodybuilding?

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2007, 07:40:47 PM »
Bob, what question are you most anxious to ask Arnold?

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2007, 07:43:08 PM »
Bob, what question are you most anxious to ask Arnold?

"Can you loan me $100?"

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2007, 05:12:37 PM »
Ask Arnie, what was the hoo-haa with his "conversation" backstage with Mentzer all about during the 80 O, find out also if he had arranged with Waller to have "his back" should the incident have turned nasty?
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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #89 on: January 29, 2007, 01:35:45 PM »
PBW definately have their shit together!  8)

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2007, 01:55:48 PM »
TOP TEN REASONS TO LISTEN TO ARNOLD INTERVIEW ON PBW

1. Still wondering how much he can bench.
2. Want to know if he banged that midget with three tits in 'Total Recall'
3. Dying to know if he really drank beer to prep for his contest prep.
4. Hoping he'll reveal steroid cycle for 1974 Olympia.
5. Waiting for stories about him and Ted Kennedy going out drinking.
6. Wondering what Arnold's take on the Lou Ferrigno $10 photo policy is.
7. Can't wait for a caller to tell him he could have done better than Maria.
8. To see if Guiness Record for 'Most Ass Kissing in Ten Minutes' is broken.
9. Curious to see if Arnold knows who Jay Cutler is.
10. Playing new drinking game that revolves around counting how many times the phrase "Back in the Day" is used.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #91 on: January 30, 2007, 02:04:18 PM »
TOP TEN REASONS TO LISTEN TO ARNOLD INTERVIEW ON PBW

1. Still wondering how much he can bench.
2. Want to know if he banged that midget with three tits in 'Total Recall'
3. Dying to know if he really drank beer to prep for his contest prep.
4. Hoping he'll reveal steroid cycle for 1974 Olympia.
5. Waiting for stories about him and Ted Kennedy going out drinking.
6. Wondering what Arnold's take on the Lou Ferrigno $10 photo policy is.
7. Can't wait for a caller to tell him he could have done better than Maria.
8. To see if Guiness Record for 'Most Ass Kissing in Ten Minutes' is broken.
9. Curious to see if Arnold knows who Jay Cutler is.
10. Playing new drinking game that revolves around counting how many times the phrase "Back in the Day" is used.

Special "Considah dat ah dee-voss" Ed



still lame Ed. hope this helps.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #92 on: January 30, 2007, 10:35:38 PM »
I pray I get to meet him in Columbus!

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #93 on: January 31, 2007, 01:14:17 PM »
I pray I get to meet him in Columbus!

Be on the expo floor Saturday between 1pm-3pm and you will. He comes out to make his rounds usually around those times.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #94 on: January 31, 2007, 07:21:02 PM »
Be on the expo floor Saturday between 1pm-3pm and you will. He comes out to make his rounds usually around those times.

I want to get a picture though...

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2007, 07:21:54 PM »
So how does this thing work? What number do I deal to speak to Arnold?
just push some weight!

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #96 on: January 31, 2007, 09:29:05 PM »
I want to get a picture though...

If you're talkin' of getting a picture of Arnold and you together, forget it.

Getting a picture of JUST Arnold along with a handshake -- very likely.
Getting a picture of Arnold and you with him saying "cheese" -- very unlikely.

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #97 on: January 31, 2007, 09:30:18 PM »
bump


you can see Arnold backed down from Mentzer here. 

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #98 on: January 31, 2007, 09:40:22 PM »
If you're talkin' of getting a picture of Arnold and you together, forget it.

Getting a picture of JUST Arnold along with a handshake -- very likely.
Getting a picture of Arnold and you with him saying "cheese" -- very unlikely.

Never say never!

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Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger will be on PBW - Feb. 12th!
« Reply #99 on: January 31, 2007, 11:15:39 PM »
Never say never!

What a legend. It would be awesome just to see him walking around.