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Mr. Intenseone

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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #150 on: January 31, 2007, 10:25:41 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 10:09:07 AM
Healthier than a 6 oz chicken breasat Cholesterol wise.

I don`t think that you understand that in a calorie restricted diet, it is IMPOSSIBLE to exceed high levels of any macro-Nutrient.  This makes my method VERY,VERY, VERY healthy.

The problem is I DO know.....especially when I review my clients health history profile and he/she is already on a cal restricted diet and the diet doesn't coinside with the blood panal results, I don't think YOU understand what you get yourself (or anyone) into unless you know where you client stands, if he/she already has high cholesterol your not going to continue to provide high cholesterol foods in that persons diet and it's not going to simply go down by restricting the caloric intake!
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #151 on: January 31, 2007, 10:32:55 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on January 31, 2007, 10:25:41 AM
The problem is I DO know.....especially when I review my clients health history profile and he/she is already on a cal restricted diet and the diet doesn't coinside with the blood panal results, I don't think YOU understand what you get yourself (or anyone) into unless you know where you client stands, if he/she already has high cholesterol your not going to continue to provide high cholesterol foods in that persons diet and it's not going to simply go down by restricting the caloric intake!
A 6 ounce Chicken Breast has higher Cholesterol than a Big Mac.  :)
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #152 on: January 31, 2007, 10:36:22 AM »
TA, do you start everyone at 1800 calories, no matter what their size or activity level?
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #153 on: January 31, 2007, 10:39:35 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 10:32:55 AM
A 6 ounce Chicken Breast has higher Cholesterol than a Big Mac.  :)
This is true... I hate it when you're right though. :D
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #154 on: January 31, 2007, 10:51:02 AM »
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #155 on: January 31, 2007, 10:52:23 AM »
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #156 on: January 31, 2007, 10:55:47 AM »

Cholesterol 99 mg 33%    6 Oz. Chicken Breast






Cholesterol 75 mg 25% Big Mac
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #157 on: January 31, 2007, 10:56:11 AM »
lol what a shit diet. Eating that garbage you get in like 2 meals a day. Skeletors minion has arrived lol.
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #158 on: January 31, 2007, 10:56:51 AM »
The site that I pulled the McDonalds from was from their site......260mg, someone is wrong and I don't think it's McDonalds!
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #159 on: January 31, 2007, 10:58:48 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on January 31, 2007, 10:56:51 AM
The site that I pulled the McDonalds from was from their site......260mg, someone is wrong and I don't think it's McDonalds!

EXACTLY.

Re read the link from Mcdonalds.

It states Cholesterol in a Big Mac EXACTLY as I did.

Look under the heading Big Mac
http://www.mcdonalds.com/app_controller.nutrition.index1.html
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #160 on: January 31, 2007, 10:59:21 AM »
A well cooked, seasoned chicken breast will usually taste better than the cheap, horrible processed beef found in a Bigmac, pointless argument over shitty tasting food  ::)
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #161 on: January 31, 2007, 11:02:23 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on January 31, 2007, 10:56:51 AM
The site that I pulled the McDonalds from was from their site......260mg, someone is wrong and I don't think it's McDonalds!

Are you going to admit that you FAILED to read the chart correctly?

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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #162 on: January 31, 2007, 11:03:18 AM »
Quote from: Saxon on January 31, 2007, 10:59:21 AM
A well cooked, seasoned chicken breast will usually taste better than the cheap, horrible processed beef found in a Bigmac, pointless argument over shitty tasting food  ::)

The beef is not processed.  What the hell does processed mean anyway?  There are no additives.  Seasoned only with Salt and Pepper.

Stop spreading lies.   
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #163 on: January 31, 2007, 11:04:37 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 11:02:23 AM
Are you going to admit that you FAILED to read the chart correctly?



Yes, I miss read it.....I was reading the Calories from fat.......260, almost half from fat!
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #164 on: January 31, 2007, 11:05:34 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on January 31, 2007, 11:04:37 AM
Yes, I miss read it.....I was reading the Calories from fat.......260, almost half from fat!

So you can admit that you were wrong and that in fact a Big Mac has LESS Cholesterol than a 6 OZ. Chicken Breast.

Just so we are clear.
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #165 on: January 31, 2007, 11:13:46 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 11:05:34 AM
So you can admit that you were wrong and that in fact a Big Mac has LESS Cholesterol than a 6 OZ. Chicken Breast.

Just so we are clear.

We are clear, but even though it is lower, it's mostly LDL (bad cholesterol) and since almost half of the calories are from fat, it's bound to raise cholesterol levels.....so bigmacs are out for people who want to live longer!
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #166 on: January 31, 2007, 11:15:36 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on January 31, 2007, 11:13:46 AM
We are clear, but even though it is lower, it's mostly LDL (bad cholesterol) and since almost half of the calories are from fat, it's bound to raise cholesterol levels.....so bigmacs are out for people who want to live longer!

Again, Since we are in a calorie restricted enviroment, the potential for high fat is not feasible and is completely removed, hence high cholesterol is olbiterated.

Calculate the Macros for ANY PERSON I work with.
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #167 on: January 31, 2007, 11:23:07 AM »
Quote from: ripitupbaby on January 31, 2007, 10:36:22 AM
TA, do you start everyone at 1800 calories, no matter what their size or activity level?




BUMP   for an answer....
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #168 on: January 31, 2007, 11:28:16 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 11:15:36 AM
Again, Since we are in a calorie restricted enviroment, the potential for high fat is not feasible and is completely removed, hence high cholesterol is olbiterated.

Calculate the Macros for ANY PERSON I work with.

it absolulty is feasable from a health standpoint, if the daily recommendation is 25gr and you have 30gr in just one serving (big mac for example) in one meal and those 30gr consists of mostly LDL....what does that tell you?
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #169 on: January 31, 2007, 11:31:43 AM »
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #170 on: January 31, 2007, 11:37:16 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 11:31:43 AM
No.
I don`t.


Is it just coincidence that Chase, Tweeter, and Bulky are all eating 1800 calories?  If they aren't, how many are they on??

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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #171 on: January 31, 2007, 11:40:19 AM »
Quote from: ripitupbaby on January 31, 2007, 11:37:16 AM

Is it just coincidence that Chase, Tweeter, and Bulky are all eating 1800 calories?  If they aren't, how many are they on??



Who is Bulky?
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #172 on: January 31, 2007, 11:40:47 AM »
Quote from: The True Adonis on January 31, 2007, 11:03:18 AM
The beef is not processed.  What the hell does processed mean anyway?  There are no additives.  Seasoned only with Salt and Pepper.

Stop spreading lies.   

They use different cuts of beef in their patties, these are mixed together.  As they don't use any binders they have to mix the beef into a texture that makes it stick together, which ruins any texture the mince might have had. The cuts they use are nowhere near the nicest cuts of beef you get, nowhere close in fact. 

Stop spreading lies that McDonalds is tasty...its not :)
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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #173 on: January 31, 2007, 11:43:17 AM »
Quote from: danielson on January 31, 2007, 11:40:19 AM
Who is Bulky?


Bulky is Case Study #3, which TA has started over at the MD Boards for whatever reason.  I hate the fact that these threads are located in two different places. 

And as far as I know, all three of them are very different size/shape, and all three of them are on 1800 calories as a "baseline."

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Re: CASE STUDY 2: THE ADONIS PRINCIPLES IN ACTION "TWEETER"
« Reply #174 on: January 31, 2007, 11:44:34 AM »
Quote from: ripitupbaby on January 31, 2007, 11:43:17 AM

Bulky is Case Study #3, which TA has started over at the MD Boards for whatever reason.  I hate the fact that these threads are located in two different places. 

And as far as I know, all three of them are very different size/shape, and all three of them are on 1800 calories as a "baseline."



Thanks. I can't believe you would do anything for those ungrateful bastards now that they have banned you TA ???
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