MIKE MENTZER VS. ARNOLD AT THE 1980 O!

[Fletch]

Arnold crushed everybody simply by showing up.

Mentzer acted like a bitch because he knew he was beaten. Period.

In the end mentzer killed himself and Arnold is governor.

[rccs]

Arnold crushed everybody simply by showing up.

Mentzer acted like a bitch because he knew he was beaten. Period.

In the end mentzer killed himself and Arnold is governor.

Thanx for the info  no body knew that Arnold is the governor

[Royalty]

 He also had quite a backlog of phone consultations and clients so he got Ray to help him and move in with him. I hardly think that, that translates to gay stuff between brothers.   

Ok...its good to hear that


I bet somebody knew that they lived together and made up the rest...

[BEAST 8692]

Ok...its good to hear that


I bet somebody knew that they lived together and made up the rest...

exactly, a sick brother moves in with his own brother.

[mrgut]

It seems that Arnold while lacking conditioning(only alittle) was full and had shape Menzter just did not have, even though he was better conditioned he was flat.

[alexxx]

It was very shortly after the failure of "Workout" that the bank incident happened. The way I heard it was that Mike owned the magazine. My ex-wife was a model for a workout section of one of the magazine issues.

For Alex... I did an interview with Danny in an issue of Ironman a few years ago. This is an exerpt of the interview. 

Danny Padilla workout.

He’ used the same basic workout for years. This was the workout he did when I trained with him for six weeks in 1977.

During most of the year Danny trains 4 to 6 days a week  He always follows the same split. Day 1 Chest and Back. Day 2  Shoulders and Arms. Day 3 legs. Repeat. If he misses a workout, (which he often does, he doesn’t worry about it, he just does that workout when he returns to the gym. During this time he does 2 to 3 exercises per body-part for 5 sets of 12 reps. Danny uses the same weight in each set. When he can get 12 reps on all 5 sets, he’ll add weight during the next workout. His rest between sets is short. No longer than a minute. Even though the volume is high Danny completes these workouts in just over an hour… This is another way of keeping the intensity high which was taught by Vince Gironda, Bill Pearl and other great trainers of “the golden era” of bodybuilding.   

Chest and Back
Bench Press 2-3 warm-up sets then 5 X 12
Incline 5 X 12
Flys 5 X 12
Dumbell Pullovers 5 X 12
Chins 5 X 12
Bent Barbell Rows 5 X 12
Cable Pull-ins 5 X 12
Once a week he does Deadlifts 5 X 12

Shoulders and Arms
Seated presses 2 warm-ups then 5 X 12
Super-seted with cable laterals 5 X 12
Dumbbell rear delt raises 5 X 12
Front Raises OR Upright Rows 5 X 12
Dumbell Curls 5 X 8
Barbell Curls 5 X 8
Concentration Curls OR Preacher Curls 5 X 8
Lying triceps extensions 5 X 12
Seated overhead EZ bar extensions 5 X 12
Pushdowns OR One arm dumbbell overhead extensions 5 X 12

Legs – Abs
Leg Extensions 5 X 12
Squats 5 X 12
Leg Presses 5 X 12
Lying Leg Curls 5 X 12
Standing Leg Curls 5 X 12
Standing Calf Raises 5 X 12
Donkey Calf Raises 5 X 15
Seated Calf Raises 5 X 15
Crunches or Leg Raises 5 X 20
 

Contest Training: Volume on body part is raised 20 sets per bodypart. Weeks 12-7 body parts are trained twice a week. During weeks 6-0 each body part is trained three times a week. Danny gains size right up to the day of the contest even on this high volume, high frequency routine.

Weeks 12 to 7


Monday and Thursday -- Chest and Back
Bench Press 2-3 warm-up sets then 5 X 12
Incline 5 X 12
Fly’s 5 X 12
Cable Fly’s 5 X 12
Chins 5 X 12
Bent Barbell Rows 5 X 12
Cable Pull-ins 5 X 12
Pulldowns 5 X 12
Once a week he does Deadlifts 5 X 12

Tuesday and Friday -- Shoulders and Arms
Seated presses 2 warm-ups then 5 X 12
Superseted with cable laterals 5 X 12
Dumbbell rear delt raises 5 X 12
Front Raises
Upright Rows 5 X 12
Dumbell Curls 5 X 8
Barbell Curls 5 X 8
Concentration Curls 5 X 8
Preacher Curls 5 X 8
Lying triceps extensions 5 X 12
Seated overhead EZ bar extensions 5 X 12
Pushdowns 5 X 12
One arm dumbbell overhead extensions 5 X 12
Reverse Curls 5 X 12
Wrist Curls 5 X 12

Wednesday and Saturday – Legs -- Abs
Leg Extensions 5 X 12
Squats 5 X 12
Leg Presses 5 X 12
Hack Squats 5 X 12
Lying Leg Curls 5 X 12
Standing Leg Curls 5 X 12
Standing Calf Raises 5 X 15
Donkey Calf Raises 5 X 15
Seated Calf Raises 5 X 15 
Crunches 5 X 20
Leg Raises 5 X 20

Weeks 6 – 0

Workouts are the same as above, rest between sets is shortened but days are split like this:

Monday Wednesday Friday Morning
Chest, Back
Monday Wednesday Friday Evening 
Quads, Hamstrings
Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday Morning
Shoulders, Arms
Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday Evening
Calves, Abs
 

Awesome thanks for sharing that Max_Rep! I will try that one very soon and become a giant monster.

[Playboy]

What did Mike Mentzer face off with Arnold before the show, what happened between them? Anyone know   

Mentzer was acting like a suck because he lost.

PB

[Max_Rep]

This WO plan can not be performed by a natural athlete. High rep sets, almost no resting time and 6 x a week! It is very intense, but I don't think that it is the best way to build long lasting thick big muscles...

That workout routine was the very first one that actually worked for me when I was natural. I had been following hard-gainer and abbreviated routines before that with little results. Don't limit your thinking to what works for you has to be what works for everyone. That was exactly what Jones/Mentzer did. 

[suckmymuscle]

Stories of him running naked through the streets, directing traffic, telling prophecies about the end of the world, being arrested by the police numerous times and even waiting for aliens to land were all published in magazines at one point or another. Popular bodybuilding writer Dan Duchaine even suggested that Menzter was drinking his own urine at the time. Mike denied this in a 2001 interview with Iron Man magazine. Nonetheless, according to McGough some of these stories are true.  Menzter was also regularly institutionalized between 1985 up until 1990, when he finally kicked his amphetamine habit.  Mentzer was reportedly a heavy user of methamphetamine for about a decade, and this was thought of as a contributing factor in his death.

  That's Mentzer being a Randian "productive hero".

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Max_Rep]

it's great to have people like you and Teagan, that actually knew the people involved and can verify what is gossip and what is bs, but for the gay brother thing to gain any momentum at all is sad. a baseless, perverted and extremely cynical attack by a sick individual.

Teagan knows many people in the bodybuilding community. She's also very cool. 

[pumpster]

Mentzer was acting like a suck because he lost.

PB

It was more than that; obviously Schwarzenegger was an annoying, arrogant twit. Mentzer didn't buy into the "psyching opponents" crap Arnold still talks about and didn't back down.

[pumpster]

Quote from: rccs on Today at 05:20:23 AM
This WO plan can not be performed by a natural athlete. High rep sets, almost no resting time and 6 x a week! It is very intense, but I don't think that it is the best way to build long lasting thick big muscles...


That workout routine was the very first one that actually worked for me when I was natural. I had been following hard-gainer and abbreviated routines before that with little results. Don't limit your thinking to what works for you has to be what works for everyone. That was exactly what Jones/Mentzer did. 

This theory that programs only work if on drugs is propogated over and over again without proof, all just to suggest that the author of such posts knows something and to disparage the program as only useful to drug users.

[Playboy]

It was more than that; obviously Schwarzenegger was an annoying, arrogant twit. Mentzer didn't buy into the "psyching opponents" crap Arnold still talks about and didn't back down.

Either way he lost. Second place is no place.

PB

[tu_holmes]

Either way he lost. Second place is no place.

PB

I dunno man... if we had a competition and there were 20 people... and I came in 2nd to you... I would want to be 1st, but I would sure as hell be happy I was 2nd.... 2nd in the world is not so bad now is it.

Maybe I am ok with being first loser.

[wolfgang187]

  1981 Mr O would have really made him nuts if they placed him lower then 5th and it never happend cause he went CRAZY by then.  Mentzer should have really focused all his crank energy on Craig Titus and beestowed all that wisdom about drugs, slammer, telling unsuccessful prophecies, and being arrested by the police numerous times!