This is what I would consider the ideal. While women def do not like professional BB size, they do like some muscle with good condition. I have also observed women do not like the ultra ripped condition bb's have. If your face is caved in and you look like you are on crack you are to conditioned for your average hottie. I would say 190 - 225 (5 -10 % bf range)depending on your height. Add weight if you are a really tall guy. I was speaking of the 5''10 - 6 foot range. If you are a midget you are going to be at a dissadvantage either way. The only women who like pro type size and condition are fitness pigs and chicks with fetishes for huge muscle. Small population compared to the whole population.