Gen. Pace calls homosexuality immoral

[ieffinhatecardio]

What a fag, you get all excited. HETEROSEXUALITY isn't immoral and doesn't claim victims with STD. Promiscuity does. If you are moral, and only have one partner with whom you engage in vaginal sex only, guess what........exactly. However, anal sex (the only kind gay men can indulge in) does produce STDs. Which is passed, creating victims. I win again biatch

MM, not everyone thinks homosexuality is immoral. I understand that you do and that many many people do but not all. There are a lot of people out there that don't consider what two consenting adults do together in their sex lives to be immoral.

[militarymuscle69]

MM, not everyone thinks homosexuality is immoral. I understand that you do and that many many people do but not all. There are a lot of people out there that don't consider what two consenting adults do together in their sex lives to be immoral.

I understand that, I'm just having fun with OzmO because he keeps trying to prove a point but can't do it.

[ieffinhatecardio]

I bet it has happened to 6 digits worth. How do you think AIDS gets spread? It isn't the toilet seat.

Perhaps you can be a little bit more specific when you say "How do you think AIDS gets spread?".

Spread to who? Wives and girlfriends? How about needles? There are a lot of junkies out there. Also, oral sex can transmit the virus as can vaginal sex under the right circumstances.

[ieffinhatecardio]

I understand that, I'm just having fun with OzmO because he keeps trying to prove a point but can't do it.

OK, sorry for butting in. I'll let you two debate.

[OzmO]

What a fag, you get all excited. HETEROSEXUALITY isn't immoral and doesn't claim victims with STD. Promiscuity does. If you are moral, and only have one partner with whom you engage in vaginal sex only, guess what........exactly. However, anal sex (the only kind gay men can indulge in) does produce STDs. Which is passed, creating victims. I win again biatch

promiscuity can cause STD's in both homo and heteral relationships

Monogamous gay relationships won't.  same with the other.


Try again Sam.   

[militarymuscle69]

promiscuity can cause STD's in both homo and heteral relationships

Monogamous gay relationships won't.  same with the other.


Try again Sam.   

even if monogomous, the chance is both of those individuals will contract STDs from anal sex, now they die and now there parents are victims! I win again

[OzmO]

even if monogomous, the chance is both of those individuals will contract STDs from anal sex, now they die and now there parents are victims! I win again

If they don;t have STD to begin with and stay exclusive to each other how are they going get them?

Are you like 19 or something?

Try again Sam.   

[militarymuscle69]

If they don;t have STD to begin with and stay exclusive to each other how are they going get them?

Are you like 19 or something?

Try again Sam.   

Obviously you don't know how anal sex leads to STDs. See the lining of the rectum is very thin. When it tears, and then fecal matter gets in the tear and STDs are born. Did you flunk health class? The same goes for heteros that have anal. Even if they are monogomous for life, they can contract STD from each other through Anal sex. If I am 19 what are you 10?

[Tre]

Tre, you are an idiot, but you are welcome. I gladly defend your freedom to be a jackass.

Yeah, you're really defending my freedoms.  lol

[Tre]

Great post.

What General Pace - like a good little bitch - was doing, was trying to divert attention from his commander-in-chief, who is taking a beating in the court of public opinion after being exposed as a lying sack of sh*t. 

People like Bush know that they'll always have idiots like Pace around to do their bidding.   

I am no "politically correct lib"... I'm a red-state (Ohio) kid who thinks Ronald Reagan is the greatest president of the twentieth century... Now that that's out of the way, I will address the rest of your point.

1. Since when are army personnel allowed to express personal opinion like that? I thought civilians were entitled to opinion, and military officials were supposed to shut up and execute orders from their civilian overlords.

2. What if the guys in some unit were racists and didn't want any negroes among them. Would you blame the black guy for joining the army, because "They knew when they joined the military how everyone felt about them"?

3. I am sure we have heroes out there in Iraq and Afghanistan, young men and women bravely serving this country, risking life and limb, who just happen to be gay. They didn't need this punch in the face from Pace. He just came out of nowhere giving out his personal opinion, for no good reason at all.

[Tre]

What if a male homosexual wants to wear a dress in the military? 

It's ok, but only if that's the Uniform of the Day. 

[militarymuscle69]

If they don;t have STD to begin with and stay exclusive to each other how are they going get them?

Are you like 19 or something?

Try again Sam.   

Quote #1

"What is Anal Cancer?
Simply put, cancer is an abnormal growth of cells. Anal cancer is abnormal cellular growth in and around the anus. Facts about anal cancer include:

In the general population anal cancer is fairly rare; about one in 100,000 people.
In men who have sex with men, the incidence climbs to about 35 in 100,000.
MSM who are HIV positive are twice as likely to get anal cancer than MSM who are HIV negative.
While anal cancer affects the anus and nearby anatomy, it is actually a type of skin cancer.
Anal cancer can be successfully treated if discovered early.
While anal cancer is not limited to men, it is the only cancer more common in men than women."

Quote #2

"For this reason, anal sex is the riskiest form of sexual activity when it comes to the transmission of HIV/AIDS. Tiny tears in the anal tissue are like giant superhighways for the HIV viruses, allowing them to get inside the body and enter the blood system. Anal tears provide an opening for all the other STDs as well. It may be possible for repetitive anal sex to lead to weakening of the anal sphincter, which is the muscle that tightens after we defecate. Once weakened, feces can escape the anus against our will. However, on Dr. Drew’s website [[http://www.drdrew.com/]], it says that doing Kegel exercises can help strengthen the anal sphincter.. The Kegel exercises are usually used to strengthen the muscles near the vagina. The exercises consist of tightening and relaxing the muscles that you use to stop the flow of urine. These muscles also help stop feces from escaping the anus."

[OzmO]

Quote #1

"What is Anal Cancer?
Simply put, cancer is an abnormal growth of cells. Anal cancer is abnormal cellular growth in and around the anus. Facts about anal cancer include:

In the general population anal cancer is fairly rare; about one in 100,000 people.
In men who have sex with men, the incidence climbs to about 35 in 100,000.
MSM who are HIV positive are twice as likely to get anal cancer than MSM who are HIV negative.
While anal cancer affects the anus and nearby anatomy, it is actually a type of skin cancer.
Anal cancer can be successfully treated if discovered early.
While anal cancer is not limited to men, it is the only cancer more common in men than women."

Quote #2

"For this reason, anal sex is the riskiest form of sexual activity when it comes to the transmission of HIV/AIDS. Tiny tears in the anal tissue are like giant superhighways for the HIV viruses, allowing them to get inside the body and enter the blood system. Anal tears provide an opening for all the other STDs as well. It may be possible for repetitive anal sex to lead to weakening of the anal sphincter, which is the muscle that tightens after we defecate. Once weakened, feces can escape the anus against our will. However, on Dr. Drew’s website [[http://www.drdrew.com/]], it says that doing Kegel exercises can help strengthen the anal sphincter.. The Kegel exercises are usually used to strengthen the muscles near the vagina. The exercises consist of tightening and relaxing the muscles that you use to stop the flow of urine. These muscles also help stop feces from escaping the anus."

So the entire gay population should be dead now or in the hospital shouldn't it?


Try again Sam.   

[militarymuscle69]

So the entire gay population should be dead now or in the hospital shouldn't it?


Try again Sam.   

I love it, you can't argue with me! You have nothing to say except this sam line of BS. Like I said in my other topic earlier. You guys can't argue with the facts me and beach put on here. You can't do it can you. This whole thing started when you claim homosexuality isn't immoral because it has no victims. I proved it wrong and what do you do? change the subject!!! I love it! You suck OzmO. Not even fun. You never come back with one fact. You just change the subject over and over and go in circles.

[OzmO]

I love it, you can't argue with me! You have nothing to say except this sam line of BS. Like I said in my other topic earlier. You guys can't argue with the facts me and beach put on here. You can't do it can you. This whole thing started when you claim homosexuality isn't immoral because it has no victims. I proved it wrong and what do you do? change the subject!!! I love it! You suck OzmO. Not even fun. You never come back with one fact. You just change the subject over and over and go in circles.

you haven't proved it wrong.


You've simply said that there is an increase in anal cancer in gay men.   Very weak argument as far as victims are concerned vs rape, murder, theft, and civilian deaths which is what we were talking about to begin with.

Keep throwing in more ad-hom,  you are doing great.   

And Keep trying Sam.   

BTW  g2g for a few hours  so if i don;t respond quickly, don't get all hoo rahhed up for no reason.   

[militarymuscle69]

you haven't proved it wrong.


You've simply said that there is an increase in anal cancer in gay men.   Very weak argument as far as victims are concerned vs rape, murder, theft, and civilian deaths which is what we were talking about to begin with.

Keep throwing in more ad-hom,  you are doing great.   

And Keep trying Sam.   

BTW  g2g for a few hours  so if i don;t respond quickly, don't get all hoo rahhed up for no reason.   

see you're circles have thrown your concentration already. The cancer was to prove that even monogomous gays can get cancer through anal sex. My original argument before you tried to change the subject was that STDs were spread by men engaging in homo sex. That is the truth. And is has affected hundreds of thousands. just like torture, murder and what not going back throughout history. It affects wives and GFs as well as their other male lovers. Like I said AIDS isn't spread by the toilet seat. So there, I proved your original argument wrong and I proved your change the subject argument wrong.

Yeah and YOU were the one that left the post one day that I hadn't answered. I could care less when you answer.

[Tre]

The cancer was to prove that even monogomous gays can get cancer through anal sex. My original argument before you tried to change the subject was that STDs were spread by men engaging in homo sex. That is the truth. And is has affected hundreds of thousands.

Why do alleged heterosexuals spend so much time obsessing over gay sex?

[Dos Equis]

Why do alleged heterosexuals spend so much time obsessing over gay sex?

Because a number of people in this country are attempting to use the government to endorse "gay sex" and put it on par with innate qualities like race and gender. 

[ieffinhatecardio]

Why do alleged heterosexuals spend so much time obsessing over gay sex?

That's a good question. I think another good question is why do they care so much? What difference does it make to anyone if two consenting adults of the same gender want to have sex with each other?

I wish my biggest concern was whether or not two men or two women are having sex with each other, unfortunately I have a lot of other things to worry about.

[OzmO]

see you're circles have thrown your concentration already. The cancer was to prove that even monogomous gays can get cancer through anal sex. My original argument before you tried to change the subject was that STDs were spread by men engaging in homo sex. That is the truth. And is has affected hundreds of thousands. just like torture, murder and what not going back throughout history. It affects wives and GFs as well as their other male lovers. Like I said AIDS isn't spread by the toilet seat. So there, I proved your original argument wrong and I proved your change the subject argument wrong.

Yeah and YOU were the one that left the post one day that I hadn't answered. I could care less when you answer.

Umm, i was done working, if you could call it that, then i had to run some errands,  but if you want to continue to make your self believe that our military is the best in the world because we don't have open gay in it and we have high moral standards then you are certainly one unenlightened farce.

Additionally the difference between victims of gay sex and victims of rape, murder, theft and civilian killings is that gays take these risk by choice, the others don't which makes your argument moot.

Your original argument of STD's being spread by gay men is also moot because it's source is promiscuity not monogamy.  So just as STD's are spread by non-gays because of promiscuity it will be the same with gays. 

A question for you while you thinking about how to respond most wittingly:

Is cancer an STD?

I wouldn't at all be surprised if you again try and tout your revelation of anal cancer/victim and as a victory.  I suppose when a football team loses 49 to nothing they can always refer to when they got a first down in the 4th quarter.



Try again little boy.....better yet call me a few more names and run around your unit and high five everyone.  you'll feel better about the weak points you've made the entire thread.   

[militarymuscle69]

Umm, i was done working, if you could call it that, then i had to run some errands,  but if you want to continue to make your self believe that our military is the best in the world because we don't have open gay in it and we have high moral standards then you are certainly one unenlightened farce.

Additionally the difference between victims of gay sex and victims of rape, murder, theft and civilian killings is that gays take these risk by choice, the others don't which makes your argument moot.

Your original argument of STD's being spread by gay men is also moot because it's source is promiscuity not monogamy.  So just as STD's are spread by non-gays because of promiscuity it will be the same with gays. 

A question for you while you thinking about how to respond most wittingly:

Is cancer an STD?

I wouldn't at all be surprised if you again try and tout your revelation of anal cancer/victim and as a victory.  I suppose when a football team loses 49 to nothing they can always refer to when they got a first down in the 4th quarter.



Try again little boy.....better yet call me a few more names and run around your unit and high five everyone.  you'll feel better about the weak points you've made the entire thread.   

Once again you have changed the subject of the argument, a victim is a victim no matter how you look at it. I am done running circles with your ignorant ass. Now I am going to go get some more high fives!!!

[militarymuscle69]

Why do alleged heterosexuals spend so much time obsessing over gay sex?

If you look at my topic on why gays shouldn't be allowed to be open in the military you will realize I don't have a problem with who they have sex with.

[OzmO]

Once again you have changed the subject of the argument, a victim is a victim no matter how you look at it. I am done running circles with your ignorant ass. Now I am going to go get some more high fives!!!

So then straight couple who have anal sex are victims too?  what's that percentage of the population?

try again you idiot.  the only thing you are running circles around is the toilet because i keep being the crap out of you.


there's a big difference between, murder, theft, etc...  victim and to consenting gay men deciding to have sex and risk the 35 in 100,000 of getting anal cancer.....

what an idiot you are.

Also answer the question:  is cancer an STD?

or don't you have the balls?

You can arbitrarily call a woman a slut but you can answer a straight forward question?

What a wuss.

[militarymuscle69]

So then straight couple who have anal sex are victims too?  what's that percentage of the population?

try again you idiot.  the only thing you are running circles around is the toilet because i keep being the crap out of you.


there's a big difference between, murder, theft, etc...  victim and to consenting gay men deciding to have sex and risk the 35 in 100,000 of getting anal cancer.....

what an idiot you are.

Also answer the question:  is cancer an STD?

or don't you have the balls?

You can arbitrarily call a woman a slut but you can answer a straight forward question?

What a wuss.

OzmO I answered this all day yesterday you are just to stupid to see it. Your statement was that HOMOSEXUALITY DOESN'T HAVE VICTIMS. Was that or was that not what you said. I showed several instances where homosexuality produces hundreds of thousands of victims. After I proved that wrong, YOU brought up the idea that monogomous gays don't have victims. I produced 2 quotes. One dealing with cancer, the other with STDs. You only skim read the first quote obviously.

[columbusdude82]

You guys can keep arguing about this till the cows come home, but:

1. nothing will change the fact that "militarymuscle69" is a bigot with an irrational fear of buttsex and gay, which he disguises as "morality," and

2. the thread has gone off-topic. Pace's comments were out of line, not because of their content, but because as a military official, he is not supposed to give his personal opinion, just execute orders from his civilian overlords.

Talk about "supporting the troops"... they should change that slogan to "support the white heterosexual troops only"...