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[The True Adonis]

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What is your caloric range when you diet and mantain under 10 percent?



DrugFree4Life
Getbig II

Posts: 272
Sad to say, I only consume abut 22-2400 cals per day.  Anytime I have tried the 'traditional' way of eating (which for me would involve consuming 3500+ cals), I have only gotten fat.  I cant do that anymore.  I personally want to remain leaner so that prepping for shows is easier.  I think its a hell of a lot easier to get leaner that way.  Ask any of the guys who are the most shredded naturals.....they dont get above 8%.


For those that are asking me as well,

My caloric range is 2000-2900 daily.
And I stay Ripped and well under 8 percent like DrugFree4Life does.

[SWOLETRAIN]

sounds logical for a natural

[Mr. Intenseone]

    Re: Started the Adonis principles today - hardest workout ever!!
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Quote from: The True Adonis on Today at 01:51:51 AM
What is your caloric range when you diet and mantain under 10 percent?



DrugFree4Life
Getbig II

Posts: 272
Sad to say, I only consume abut 22-2400 cals per day.  Anytime I have tried the 'traditional' way of eating (which for me would involve consuming 3500+ cals), I have only gotten fat.  I cant do that anymore.  I personally want to remain leaner so that prepping for shows is easier.  I think its a hell of a lot easier to get leaner that way.  Ask any of the guys who are the most shredded naturals.....they dont get above 8%.


For those that are asking me as well,

My caloric range is 2000-2900 daily.
And I stay Ripped and well under 8 percent like DrugFree4Life does.

Sounds like he's not burning off more than he's taking in....stop training HIT and start doing some actual training, problem solved!

[dodster]

dont tell me u tried eating more apenis?? of course u got fat ur body wen natural cant digest that much food juice  can help

[Krankenstein]

All drugs.

If pussy is a drug...then I am all over that statement.

[The True Adonis]

If pussy is a drug...then I am all over that statement.

Can you post some pictures so they can see who you are?

That back shot will do just nicely.

[Krankenstein]

Sounds like he's not burning off more than he's taking in....stop training HIT and start doing some actual training, problem solved!

I dont train HIT....I tried it...and I didnt care for it.  As for actual training.....here is my last chest workout:

Flat Dumbell Bench : 120x9, 105x9, 105x7
Incline Bench: 225x11, 225x7, 185x10
Body Master's Bench Machine: 235x8, 235x6

I know its shitty weight....but thats a general chest workout for me.  I do an absolute 2sec negative on everything and I dont pause mid-set.

[The True Adonis]

I dont train HIT....I tried it...and I didnt care for it.  As for actual training.....here is my last chest workout:

Flat Dumbell Bench : 120x9, 105x9, 105x7
Incline Bench: 225x11, 225x7, 185x10
Body Master's Bench Machine: 235x8, 235x6

I know its shitty weight....but thats a general chest workout for me.  I do an absolute 2sec negative on everything and I dont pause mid-set.

Thats some impressive DB work.

Show us some pics!

[Mr. Intenseone]

I dont train HIT....I tried it...and I didnt care for it.  As for actual training.....here is my last chest workout:

Flat Dumbell Bench : 120x9, 105x9, 105x7
Incline Bench: 225x11, 225x7, 185x10
Body Master's Bench Machine: 235x8, 235x6

I know its shitty weight....but thats a general chest workout for me.  I do an absolute 2sec negative on everything and I dont pause mid-set.

Again, you are not burning off more than you take in, if you are not doing cardio, then train volume, with 60sec rests!

[Krankenstein]

I am only pointing out what I eat.  When I diet for shows I dont get the major hunger pains.  In fact I just eat because I know its time to do so.  If someone can get away with eating a ton more, then more power to them.  For me, its also part mental...if i bend over I HATE that feeling of the roll over the pants. 

If I wasnt battling some damn problem with my left elbow I would think those numbers would be higher...but until that thing goes away...those weights will have to stay.  Probably some problem with the anconeus muscle.  Its weird, the first couple of reps on dumbell benching the elbow feels weak.  After that I am fine.  I cant afford a tear, so I am overly cautious.

[The True Adonis]

I am only pointing out what I eat.  When I diet for shows I dont get the major hunger pains.  In fact I just eat because I know its time to do so.  If someone can get away with eating a ton more, then more power to them.  For me, its also part mental...if i bend over I HATE that feeling of the roll over the pants. 

If I wasnt battling some damn problem with my left elbow I would think those numbers would be higher...but until that thing goes away...those weights will have to stay.  Probably some problem with the anconeus muscle.  Its weird, the first couple of reps on dumbell benching the elbow feels weak.  After that I am fine.  I cant afford a tear, so I am overly cautious.

PICTURES!

[Krankenstein]

Again, you are not burning off more than you take in, if you are not doing cardio, then train volume, with 60sec rests!

I actually am going to try doing an experiment on myself.  I am dropping training to 4 days a week and working the body twice a week (i.e. Sat/sun then Tue/wed).  Sat/sun will be heavy with higher volume.  The Tue/Wed one will be higher reps, less rest, etc.  I will do 3 days of 20 - 30 mins of cardio.

[The True Adonis]

I actually am going to try doing an experiment on myself.  I am dropping training to 4 days a week and working the body twice a week (i.e. Sat/sun then Tue/wed).  Sat/sun will be heavy with higher volume.  The Tue/Wed one will be higher reps, less rest, etc.  I will do 3 days of 20 - 30 mins of cardio.

Are you going to do my Deadlift Challenge Technique every week?  I recommend it.

Also, PICTURES.

[Krankenstein]

Are you going to do my Deadlift Challenge Technique every week?  I recommend it.

Also, PICTURES.

Pictures may come beginning of April as I will decide if I am doing a show by then.  If I do, I will do my customary picture taking at the beginning of a diet.

[The True Adonis]

Pictures may come beginning of April as I will decide if I am doing a show by then.  If I do, I will do my customary picture taking at the beginning of a diet.

Show your old ones!

[Krankenstein]

This is a shot of me about a week or so out from 2006....

I was weighing about 197 - 199 here (I think)

[wolfgang187]

This is a shot of me about a week or so out from 2006....

I was weighing about 197 - 199 here (I think)

Good job man keep up the good work and eat your vitamins brother!!

[Krankenstein]

Good job man keep up the good work and eat your vitamins brother!!

Ha ha....all the other hulk-a-maniacs do, so why not?

In any event....I got SMOKED at my first pro show.  Wasnt pretty.  I hope it doesnt happen again.  I got the obligatory 2 - 3 sentences in the latest NB&F though.

[wolfgang187]

Ha ha....all the other hulk-a-maniacs do, so why not?

In any event....I got SMOKED at my first pro show.  Wasnt pretty.  I hope it doesnt happen again.  I got the obligatory 2 - 3 sentences in the latest NB&F though.

Look you know how to make yourself better, so don't knock it, it was your first pro show.  Every body gets their cherry popped!  Just don't bleed to death over it.

[GoneAway]

This is a shot of me about a week or so out from 2006....

I was weighing about 197 - 199 here (I think)

Your chest looks 'shopped to hell, but if it's real, that's a mighty fine chest. Good overall.

[The True Adonis]

Your chest looks 'shopped to hell, but if it's real, that's a mighty fine chest. Good overall.

He is as real as it gets my friend.

Truly a great bodybuilder and one of the best PRO NATURALS. 

[The True Adonis]

I do think his conditioning can improve Greatly and I think we should all offer help and support to get him to the best level possible.  This is what he needs to work on most and that he can easily achieve.

[Playboy]

    Re: Started the Adonis principles today - hardest workout ever!!
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Quote from: The True Adonis on Today at 01:51:51 AM
What is your caloric range when you diet and mantain under 10 percent?



DrugFree4Life
Getbig II

Posts: 272
Sad to say, I only consume abut 22-2400 cals per day.  Anytime I have tried the 'traditional' way of eating (which for me would involve consuming 3500+ cals), I have only gotten fat.  I cant do that anymore.  I personally want to remain leaner so that prepping for shows is easier.  I think its a hell of a lot easier to get leaner that way.  Ask any of the guys who are the most shredded naturals.....they dont get above 8%.


For those that are asking me as well,

My caloric range is 2000-2900 daily.
And I stay Ripped and well under 8 percent like DrugFree4Life does.

Define natural. Does that mean taking 4 sustenon per week instead of the usual 8? 1 anadrol 50 per day instead of the usual 4? HGH? There is NO such thing as a natural competative bbdr. I wish to God you "natural crusaders" would understand that. It does not exist on a competetive stage.

PB

[SteelePegasus]

DrugFree4Life, good job and keep up the good work. In general I agree with the caloric range
how tall are you?


Adonis, he actually has muscle mass...you don't

no one disagrees with the premise that most people over eat and that a caloric defecit will produce weight lost. What we find offensive is you passing off other people's ideas as yours.

go to any gym and look around, of the serious work out people you will find a bunch of fat people lifting weights. It dawned of me a  long time a go that "they train just as hard as me if not harder, they train just as long as me if not longer"

so the only other variable is that they are over eating. I droppped my caloric intake and started seeing results. Oddly enough everyone is saying that I am look bigger even though I have lost some weight. My weight has stabilized but the BF keeps going down.




Seeing someone like DrugFree4Life only gives me more motivation

[The Enigma]

Sociopath:

Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.


Make no mistake............this represents the psychological profile of Adonis.