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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2007, 11:26:28 PM »
Seriously, I was a psych major, and we actually did an experiment on this(based on empiricle data) and it is something that can be determined at birth through digit ratio(index to ring finger), but not all major differences in finger digit ratios equalled queers, but most queers had the digit ratio that lead the condutor of the experiment(my class) to believe that the higher the difference in digit ratio in between the two fingers lead to queerness(maybe like all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares).  So just because you have a higher ratio in the difference between ring and index finger, doesnt mean you are queer, but for the most part, the difference in digit ratio lead to a muther fvcker being queer more times than the ratio being closer to even.  But, the difference in digit ratio was due to an exposure to estrogen to the fetus prior to birth.  So, what I am saying is, that people being gay is something that is an inate trait, but can be brought out by outside forces(much like alcoholism).  I dunno if that is clear, but anyone with questions, feel free to post, and i will try to answer.  LAter.

The digit length indicator applies only to women:
http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/readings/homofinger/homo_finger.html

Also, for fvcks sake learn how to spell.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2007, 11:29:46 PM »
Intenseone, since I moved to SD county in SoCal, I now understand why people are conservative; You establish a nice community, built by families who work hard and want their environment to prosper and conform to some extent to their community; nothing wrong with that, I actually admire it and try to bring as much as I can.

Fuck all the urban liberal douche who think they're going to change the world but at the end of the day, all talk and no action taken in their downtown SF studion with their (oh brother) buddies...

Discuss.

liberals want what they dont have. they dont understand self-responsibility. they want everything to be equal. "its not fair that guy has more money then me". lets tax him and give me some of it

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2007, 11:38:03 PM »
Typical socialist greed.  Both conservatives and liberals make idiotic points though.  It is possible to lean intelligently to the right and to the left depending on the issue though.  There are usually shades of grey that only moderates see.

Matt C, I'm not an expert but if you lean on both sides at the same time, you might split in half.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2007, 11:38:30 PM »
Bob Paris

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2007, 11:48:33 PM »
Seriously, I was a psych major, and we actually did an experiment on this(based on empiricle data) and it is something that can be determined at birth through digit ratio(index to ring finger), but not all major differences in finger digit ratios equalled queers, but most queers had the digit ratio that lead the condutor of the experiment(my class) to believe that the higher the difference in digit ratio in between the two fingers lead to queerness(maybe like all squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares).  So just because you have a higher ratio in the difference between ring and index finger, doesnt mean you are queer, but for the most part, the difference in digit ratio lead to a muther fvcker being queer more times than the ratio being closer to even.  But, the difference in digit ratio was due to an exposure to estrogen to the fetus prior to birth.  So, what I am saying is, that people being gay is something that is an inate trait, but can be brought out by outside forces(much like alcoholism).  I dunno if that is clear, but anyone with questions, feel free to post, and i will try to answer.  LAter.

In males, the longer your ring finger is in relation to your index finger, the higher your testosterone levels probably are. Also out of a group of random people who are selected to race each other over the 100m sprint, the person most likely to win will probably have the longest ring finger in relation to their index finger. The above more than likely applies to women as well.



There have been studies done on this.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2007, 11:50:29 PM »
In males, the longer your ring finger is in relation to your index finger, the higher your testosterone levels probably are. Also out of a group of random people who are selected to race each other over the 100m sprint, the person most likely to win will probably have the longest ring finger in relation to their index finger. The above more than likely applies to women as well.

There have been studies done on this.


All my fingers except for my thumbs are the same lenght. Am i in trouble hormone wise ???????????

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2007, 12:08:42 AM »
nope.  sorry.  I have lots of friends raised by conservatives, religious fundementalists, etc. 

40 years worth of scientific studies show no significant correllation between environment and sexual orientation.

if thats not a joke,  you're fucking retarded.

a simple statistics correlation would show nothing, what would 'scientists' expect to find?

oh look! this guy works at a flower shop! OH! LOOK HES GAY!!

LOOK ITS A TREND!! OMG PUBLISH THIS

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2007, 12:12:39 AM »
liberals want what they dont have. they dont understand self-responsibility. they want everything to be equal. "its not fair that guy has more money then me". lets tax him and give me some of it

liberals want social and economic justice for all.  they want a level playing field.  you can be as successful as you want, but it is naive to think that some people don't have it easier than others because of where or to whom they were born.

you're also naive if you don't realize that people with power do things to hold on to that power, and that their actions sometimes really screw over those with no power. 

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2007, 12:15:38 AM »
if thats not a joke,  you're fucking retarded.
a simple statistics correlation would show nothing, what would 'scientists' expect to find?
oh look! this guy works at a flower shop! OH! LOOK HES GAY!!
LOOK ITS A TREND!! OMG PUBLISH THIS

read what I wrote again.  put the word "childhood" before "environment" and "adult" before "sexual orientation"

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2007, 12:27:06 AM »
nah i probably shouldn't have insulted you then, i apologize.

but ill let the latter part be my belief, because any correlation between two variables is really loose.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2007, 12:32:36 AM »
nope.  sorry.  I have lots of friends raised by conservatives, religious fundementalists, etc. 

40 years worth of scientific studies show no significant correllation between environment and sexual orientation.
while i dont dispute that there is 40 years worth of studies that show this there are also just as many studies that support a significant relationship between sexual orientation and environment

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2007, 12:47:22 AM »
while i dont dispute that there is 40 years worth of studies that show this there are also just as many studies that support a significant relationship between sexual orientation and environment

not in peer reviewed respected scientific journals.  just as with global warming, legitimate scientists are in agreement.  there is no correlation between your environment and your sexual orientation.  Note that sexual orientation (how you feel) is not the same as sexual behavior (whether you act on those feelings).    No correlation with the relationship you had with your mother, father, social class, economic class, religious upbringing, culture, etc.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2007, 12:54:35 AM »
Bob as far as symmetry and shape, Milos for conditioning, but if Bob could have had Milo's conditioning, it would have been lights out for Milos, no disrespect to Milos, but compared to Bob he had too many flaws!

Agree.

Milos definitely had great talent, but in comparison to the most symmetrical guy of all time, arguably...

He can't compare - Bob Paris is IMO the better bodybuilder, and easily so.

Personally, I rank Bob Paris among the top ten physiques all time, perhaps even top 5-6.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2007, 01:01:41 AM »
not in peer reviewed respected scientific journals.  just as with global warming, legitimate scientists are in agreement.  there is no correlation between your environment and your sexual orientation.  Note that sexual orientation (how you feel) is not the same as sexual behavior (whether you act on those feelings).    No correlation with the relationship you had with your mother, father, social class, economic class, religious upbringing, culture, etc.
fair enough than.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2007, 01:05:35 AM »

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2007, 01:10:50 AM »
then?
thats the one i was looking for

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2007, 01:29:10 AM »
The digit length indicator applies only to women:
http://www.unl.edu/rhames/courses/readings/homofinger/homo_finger.html

Also, for fvcks sake learn how to spell.
Spelling is arbitrary at this point in the night, the fact is, that I ran the experiment, and it was published in the journal.  And thats what we were trying to decide, the correlation between women/men and digit ratio and how it affects things such as direction, aggression etc.  We found that there was a significant correlation(through statistical data), but it was like saying, what came first, the chicken or the egg?  I guess we will never know, which is the beauty of my undergrad degree(psych), you can never really prove anything, except behaviorism.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2007, 02:26:20 AM »
lol

lifes a bitch huh? and so are fingers

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2007, 03:47:04 AM »
Milos wins when it comes to contest.

I personaly like Bobs physic more. Because he dont have weak arms.

And Bob poses 1000 times better than Milos.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2007, 03:53:17 AM »
...not raised by a conservative family?  ???

No, it's that genetic pre-dispostion that all the Flambos say they have.  They get pissed when you tell them they have an illness.  I can just see the doctor getting ready to deliver the news, "Maam, your son....Well has a scorching case of the Gay!!!!"

LMFAO.............
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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2007, 04:10:58 AM »
Spelling is arbitrary at this point in the night, the fact is, that I ran the experiment, and it was published in the journal.  And thats what we were trying to decide, the correlation between women/men and digit ratio and how it affects things such as direction, aggression etc.  We found that there was a significant correlation(through statistical data), but it was like saying, what came first, the chicken or the egg?  I guess we will never know, which is the beauty of my undergrad degree(psych), you can never really prove anything, except behaviorism.



You found a correlations, good.

Some questions:

What's the chance that there are confounders moderating both finger length and test and other variables?
You said foetal exposure to estrogen is a factor, I don't think your research could have concluded that.
As a matter of fact, it's a largely untested hypothesis, It's quite hard to check for foetal hormonal exposure.


Nature vs nurture in the 'gay'debate. In conservative societes there much more latent homosexualism, the invorenment is unfriendly or even hostile towards gays, so many will think twice about coming out of the closet.

There's a large genetic factor as is shown by homozygote twin studies. And there's been many examples of homosexual behaviour in the animal world, especially among the higher developed creatures.

got to go to work now, I'll chime in again later.


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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2007, 04:49:45 AM »
not too many conservative guys wear leather chaps, and wear makeup
That is such a general statement.

How do you know?

Look at J. Edgar Hoover, Log Cabin Republicans, etc

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2007, 08:04:28 AM »
That is such a general statement.

How do you know?

Look at J. Edgar Hoover, Log Cabin Republicans, etc

You never know who the homosexual is if they don't want you to know.
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true, very conservative people in life often have hidden sex lives the contradict their everday persona. It comes from the pain of wearing a contirived and controled mask everyday. You see this with conservatives, very powerfull people, and very religious people.

I know a few hustlers here in NY and their clientel are usually people who are very controlled and conservative in their daily lives.

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2007, 08:36:51 AM »
Milos was a great bodybuilder, one of the best, but please, it's not even remotely close. Bob Paris had damn near PERFECT proportion and symmetry as well as aesthetically pleasing lines/shape to his muscles. Milos' arms were too small/thin, his delts too small, his obliques too big, his calves not big enough and his physique didn't have the same flow to it.

VERY GOOD:


Pretty much perfection:

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Re: milos vs bob paris.
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2007, 09:39:15 AM »
Bob Paris for sheer symmetry and lines.