Well they were silly to think they could grapple a skilled knife fighter. I don't care if you're Rigan Machado or Rickson Gracie, that's just dumb.
Cool thing about Rigan and JJ is they were open to learning. Christopher Ricketts is no joke. He recently relocated to SD, CA. Tatang was involved in over 100 death matches. I wish I would have had an opportunity to train with him. He died the year I was going to Manilla.