JUICE WASN'T A HUGE FACTOR ACCORDING TO OUR EXPERTS HERE..
Pumpster, not that I don't think he used/uses stuff (everyone does) but the physique comparison really shouldn't mean much.
At 16 I went from 169 (contest weight) to 222 8 months later at 17 years old with hard training and enormous amounts of food...Box of pasta, dozen eggs, chicken, potato's, oatmeal etc...I ate probably 8 times a day.
How many years is this weight comparison over? he is a grown man with a great strength training program.
Ya know how many people I see everymonth that use more stuff than most gym goers and are not even 215 pounds??? Too many...