Who cares? Unless there's something about div and toxy we don't know, then we just don't know.
And what's wrong with going to beach with a male friend, or family member? In my very own inherited culture, men embrace men more so than women at times; and no, it's not due to homosexuality. Male lions tend to bond a lot, but do they hump one another and are prides all over Africa dying due to their homosexuality? 
I think it's the norm in conformist culture to assume that a grown man has to go to the beach on with another woman, or his children. I assume you think the same for movies? Actually, going to a movie with a male friend would allow for a man to follow the plot better, while going with a woman would mean going for reasons unrelated to the movie. 
Is it me? Or have I been spending too much time around heavy metal-listening college kids and Greeks? 
LOL......see people have not read me right. I for one see nothing wrong with anything, that does not hurt another human.
I merely asked was it normal, not the beach...the whole scene:
2 grown men meet online, 2 grown men who tend to live in the womens section of a forum, they arrange a vacation together, they go to the beach with each other, photograph each other on the beach, photograph their new friend "Joseph" and post they should have gotten more pics of Joseph, and one guy also shaves the other guys back.........
I simply found that different. I am used to say male and female meeting online and beaching together, guys takin pics of their girls/kids on the beach, guys going on vacation together and maybe trying to pick up ladies, guys taking pics of ladies on vacation not other guys etc.
And again, nothing wrong with that at all.......but of all people on this board I am probably most familiar with vacation norms, as I have spent my life in a domain dedicated entirely to vacations, so I merely asked.
And as for Tox's post on the last page and others, naturally I am above that low mud slinging, maybe it's just my culture, but where I come from men don't hurl profanity and slurs at women and women don't respond in kind......so I'll stick to my personal values. And yeah...like ppl said Tox is cool when not drinking...so hopefully he'll sober up and show his better side.
