Author Topic: Something changed in the past 4 - 5 years (Read 13166 times)

muscularny · « **on:** October 14, 2007, 02:00:17 AM »

What took so many over a decade to achieve lately more and more bodybuilders achieve in a few years, heath, wolf, henrey, silvio, centaponi, brewer etc.

What has changed?

Andre Nickatina · « **Reply #1 on:** October 14, 2007, 02:25:09 AM »

Quote from: muscularny on October 14, 2007, 02:00:17 AM

What took so many over a decade to achieve lately what more and more bodybuilders achieve in a few years, heath, wolf, henrey, silvio, centaponi, brewer etc.

What has changed?

Is english your secong language?

muscularny · « **Reply #2 on:** October 14, 2007, 02:26:56 AM »

Quote from: Andre Nickatina on October 14, 2007, 02:25:09 AM

Is english your secong language?

yes

mass243 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 14, 2007, 02:29:14 AM »

Quote from: muscularny on October 14, 2007, 02:00:17 AM

What took so many over a decade to achieve lately more and more bodybuilders achieve in a few years, heath, wolf, henrey, silvio, centaponi, brewer etc.

What has changed?

hmmmm... what might it be...?

muscularny · « **Reply #4 on:** October 14, 2007, 02:33:47 AM »

Quote from: mass243 on October 14, 2007, 02:29:14 AM

hmmmm... what might it be...?

no new drugs and food and supps havent really changed (unless you still think masstech or whatever is worth a damn) so whats the deal

mass243 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 14, 2007, 02:42:46 AM »

Quote from: muscularny on October 14, 2007, 02:33:47 AM

no new drugs and food and supps havent really changed (unless you still think masstech or whatever is worth a damn) so whats the deal

Just watch what that Muscletech and 'mass stack' (or whatever) did for Jay!

Beener · « **Reply #6 on:** October 14, 2007, 05:40:32 AM »

Insulin is probably a big player

muscularny · « **Reply #7 on:** October 14, 2007, 06:48:29 AM »

Quote from: Beener on October 14, 2007, 05:40:32 AM

Insulin is probably a big player

thats been around for a while, you are seeing guys going from looking so so to amazing in 18-24 months

gtbro1 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 14, 2007, 06:51:17 AM »

Doggcrapp training

SteelePegasus · « **Reply #9 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:07:15 AM »

Quote from: gtbro1 on October 14, 2007, 06:51:17 AM

Doggcrapp training

huh? why would anyone let their dog crap on them while training

muscularny · « **Reply #10 on:** October 14, 2007, 06:41:37 PM »

lets hear some more input

240 is Back · « **Reply #11 on:** October 14, 2007, 06:51:29 PM »

I don't think its insulin.
Yeah, everyone is on it suddenly, but it's been around for 15 years.

Maybe it's just the fact that the internet has brought BBing everywhere, so the guys who really are genetic freaks - the Brewers, the Locketts, Evan, etc - are more likely to be found and start young. As opposed to playing football in high school, they're bodybuilding from 9th grade and are credible threats by age 21. back in the day, there were phenoms- Shawn and levrone for example.

Maybe there is something new, but I doubt it. More likely just more people exposed, and thanks to the web, guys can buy all the pieces to the formula, not just what they can get from a guy at the gym. instead of taking orals when you can get them, guys are doing pro stacks at age 16 with hgh, insulin, test, etc.

BFP · « **Reply #12 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:28:45 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 14, 2007, 06:51:29 PM

I don't think its insulin.
Yeah, everyone is on it suddenly, but it's been around for 15 years.

Maybe it's just the fact that the internet has brought BBing everywhere, so the guys who really are genetic freaks - the Brewers, the Locketts, Evan, etc - are more likely to be found and start young. As opposed to playing football in high school, they're bodybuilding from 9th grade and are credible threats by age 21. back in the day, there were phenoms- Shawn and levrone for example.

Maybe there is something new, but I doubt it. More likely just more people exposed, and thanks to the web, guys can buy all the pieces to the formula, not just what they can get from a guy at the gym. instead of taking orals when you can get them, guys are doing pro stacks at age 16 with hgh, insulin, test, etc.

Id think that moreso than the drugs.

Jason

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:31:20 PM »

Here's what happened: myostatin mutation

muscularny · « **Reply #14 on:** October 15, 2007, 01:22:28 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on October 14, 2007, 07:31:20 PM

Here's what happened: myostatin mutation

when that happens I think the stage will be done with the short guys and we will see guys 6'4+ only

Trev · « **Reply #15 on:** October 15, 2007, 01:31:33 AM »

More Drugs - Its had a knock on effect too of less nutrional and exercise knowledge being required by bodybuilders!! This has resulted in more genetically gifted "athletes" rising to the top WITHOUT this knowledge which results in lower quality physiques!! The guys of the '70's and '80's were like nutritionists and exercise physiologists.... Incredibly knowledgable and it showed in their physiques.

Al-Gebra · « **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2007, 01:37:09 AM »

increased exposure to radioactivity.

davidpaul · « **Reply #17 on:** October 15, 2007, 02:21:08 AM »

the china problem

Figo · « **Reply #18 on:** October 15, 2007, 04:27:11 AM »

Quote from: Al-Gebra on October 15, 2007, 01:37:09 AM

increased exposure to radioactivity.

Thats it.

davidpaul · « **Reply #19 on:** October 15, 2007, 04:32:16 AM »

the depression

columbusdude82 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 15, 2007, 06:05:20 AM »

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA everyone has a "myostatin mutation" these days...

The_Iron_Disciple · « **Reply #21 on:** October 15, 2007, 06:12:33 AM »

I don't think it has to do, necessarily, with the TYPE of Drugs that are using these Days ... rather, I think it has to do with the AMOUNT that they are using instead. 240 ... I don't buy into your Theory at all ... KIDS have ALWAYS lifted Weights ... mainly because High School Sports require you to ... and, YES, that includes Diet as well ( I know because I played High School Sports ). However, I do agree with the fact that MORE and MORE Kids ( Young Adults, Teens, etc. ... whatever ! ) are using Steroids ... and NOT just the basic Anabolics.

muscularny · « **Reply #22 on:** October 15, 2007, 01:37:22 PM »

someone that knows chime in like maybe milos if hes got a second

PANDAEMONIUM · « **Reply #23 on:** October 15, 2007, 01:44:34 PM »

Quote from: muscularny on October 15, 2007, 01:37:22 PM

someone that knows chime in like maybe milos if hes got a second

Sure. What do you need? I only have 5 minutes, so make it quick.

Triple-H_2005 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 15, 2007, 02:05:40 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 14, 2007, 06:51:29 PM

I don't think its insulin.
Yeah, everyone is on it suddenly, but it's been around for 15 years.

Maybe it's just the fact that the internet has brought BBing everywhere, so the guys who really are genetic freaks - the Brewers, the Locketts, Evan, etc - are more likely to be found and start young. As opposed to playing football in high school, they're bodybuilding from 9th grade and are credible threats by age 21. back in the day, there were phenoms- Shawn and levrone for example.

Agreed. Don't forget Gaspari and some of the guys from the early and mid-80s. Hell, Lee Haney was only 25 when he won his first Olympia in '84. At 32, he was almost as yount winning his 8th Sandow as Yates (30) & younger than Coleman (34) when they won their first.