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pct question
« on: November 01, 2007, 03:26:49 PM »
hello i plan to do my first test cycle which consists of test and deca

1-8 wk  300 MGs deca
1-12 wk 500 Mg's test 400( it will be kinda hard to dose it at exactly 500mg due to the increments on my syringe so slightly over 500mg most likely)
 however my question was should i run a small amount of a Dex throughout the cycle (.25)i just want to be safe as possible .....i cant get hcg but i plan to run clomid and nolva

30 days of clomid starting at 150mg and then drop 50Mg's every ten days
 25 mg of nolva for 6 weeks.....
   
please help give suggestions on doses and the way i plan to use the products

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Re: pct question
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2007, 03:34:45 PM »
1.That ratio Test to Deca might give me deca-dick. Prolly Ok.
2.That much clomid I couldnt stand...
3.I run AI AE by feel, and only as need be.

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Re: pct question
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2007, 05:06:05 PM »
hello i plan to do my first test cycle which consists of test and deca

1-8 wk  300 MGs deca
1-12 wk 500 Mg's test 400( it will be kinda hard to dose it at exactly 500mg due to the increments on my syringe so slightly over 500mg most likely)
 however my question was should i run a small amount of a Dex throughout the cycle (.25)i just want to be safe as possible .....i cant get hcg but i plan to run clomid and nolva

30 days of clomid starting at 150mg and then drop 50Mg's every ten days
 25 mg of nolva for 6 weeks.....
   
please help give suggestions on doses and the way i plan to use the products

Bump your Test to 600 or 800, you'd be in better solid wise...if you know what I mean. For a small 12 week cycle I don't know if you would really have to do any type of PCT, your not going overboard with your doses anyways.
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Re: pct question
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 05:47:24 PM »
You could probably get by with 50mg of Clomid ED for PCT or 20mg ED of Nolva for three or four weeks. But like trab said play it by how you feel. I personally don't think HCG is necessary but that's just me - I've never noticed a difference using it or not using it.

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Re: pct question
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2007, 05:55:11 PM »
You could probably get by with 50mg of Clomid ED for PCT or 20mg ED of Nolva for three or four weeks. But like trab said play it by how you feel. I personally don't think HCG is necessary but that's just me - I've never noticed a difference using it or not using it.

I really like HCG for the strength and performance/ energy. But I start to get nausea about in 2 weeks.

I tell ya, if you ever run a long 3-4 month androgen cycle, and then blast 1000-1500iu HCG eod or every 3rd,
then hit the anabolics and some Tprop... ;)

Ok, yur nuts just filled back up, and then onto less supressive stuff winding down for a couple more months...

Use the old clomid and nolva as normal at end, and its the easiest recovery Ive ever pulled off, and stayed very close to peak weight.

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Re: pct question
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 05:55:46 PM »
You could probably get by with 50mg of Clomid ED for PCT or 20mg ED of Nolva for three or four weeks. But like trab said play it by how you feel. I personally don't think HCG is necessary but that's just me - I've never noticed a difference using it or not using it.

bump on the clo/ nolva advice. any more than 50mgs of clomid would make me go blind.....and probably cry myself to sleep at night

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Re: pct question
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2007, 07:04:27 PM »
really i did 600mgs of eq for ten weeks and felt suppressed for a good three months id say...sex drive is still a little low ..everyone claimed you didnt need to do a pct if you did eq alone...thats why im concerned about it this time around..just trying to do all that i can....

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Re: pct question
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2007, 07:36:58 PM »
really i did 600mgs of eq for ten weeks and felt suppressed for a good three months id say...sex drive is still a little low ..everyone claimed you didnt need to do a pct if you did eq alone...thats why im concerned about it this time around..just trying to do all that i can....

Someone misled you bro, unless your doing some kinda test in there, you should do a PCT. If you are running test along side it for such a short time, 10 to 12 weeks. You shouldn't need a PCT.

Myself I prefer HCG to be honest, and that would be a good start for your PCT.
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Re: pct question
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2007, 08:11:47 PM »
really i did 600mgs of eq for ten weeks and felt suppressed for a good three months id say...sex drive is still a little low ..everyone claimed you didnt need to do a pct if you did eq alone...thats why im concerned about it this time around..just trying to do all that i can....

10mgs of dbol can shut you down...

its ALWAYS about suppression. next time someone tells you that you dont need pct...theyre lying.

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Re: pct question
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2007, 08:17:13 PM »
it was someone on this board i cant remember who...lessoned learned i guess thats why i want a serious pct...other sites like steroid.com are liberal with there pct drugs dont know if you have ever read around on that board but they suggested more pct drugs than the dudes on here...but i feel lik the guys on here are an older group hopefully more knowledge....one guy posted i should up the dose to 600 or 800 mgs of test....this is my first time taking test ever.. iv never read anhything telling a first timer to run that much

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Re: pct question
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2007, 08:46:52 PM »
it was someone on this board i cant remember who...lessoned learned i guess thats why i want a serious pct...other sites like steroid.com are liberal with there pct drugs dont know if you have ever read around on that board but they suggested more pct drugs than the dudes on here...but i feel lik the guys on here are an older group hopefully more knowledge....one guy posted i should up the dose to 600 or 800 mgs of test....this is my first time taking test ever.. iv never read anhything telling a first timer to run that much

well, what have you run?

you said a cycle of eq....what else?

if youre gonna run test/deca...ideally you want to do it at a 2:1 ratio....however for a first "REAL" cycle....a stack of 500mgs of test e or c, stacked with 300mgs of deca for 12 weeks should be fine. running the deca for 8 weeks like you posted just isnt enough time...just stop the deca a week before the test.

as far as pct, i think that the general consensus on this board is that clomid is good, nolva is better, hcg should be used throughout the cycle. most will tell you this...

as far as those dosages on the clomid you posted, that was the general idea some years back...but that has seemed to fall to the wayside. kinda like pyramid cycling....cool in the late 80's - early 90's...not so much the norm today.

clomid in heavy doses makes some have vision problems and headaches...and turns you into BIIIIATCH!!!

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Re: pct question
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2007, 04:39:24 AM »
Bottom line is you need experimant with HCG CLomid Nolva and the other Ai's to figure out the puzzle.

The whole deal is about temporary shut down Nat Test for a HIGH artificial one, and recover
(OR never really come off for long)

THEY ALL HAVE INHIBITION OF NAT TEST! EVEN VAR.

Yes some are worse, but even EQ will (Your UG EQ? It prolly was Testo  ;D)

Use HG only, or dont use IMO. You'll  prolly find you need less gas.

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Re: pct question
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2007, 01:19:08 PM »
yea i dont think it was real eq.. the ug lab was one of the labs that got busted in new york during the recent take down....the oil from the juice i have now is a lighter color and less thick even though it has the same concentration as the "eq". and for pct i see what your saying..id just wanted to avoid a hard crash.and be able to bring back my test levels as fast as possible.thats why i figured id cut the deca early even though so say yes to that matter and some say no

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Re: pct question
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2007, 01:31:50 PM »
Bottom line is you need experimant with HCG CLomid Nolva and the other Ai's to figure out the puzzle.

Amen. You need to figure out what works best for you. Remember we're all different.

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Re: pct question
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2007, 02:00:02 PM »
Amen. You need to figure out what works best for you. Remember we're all different.

Aw c'mon Rim, I thought we were all created equally.........LOL....j ust playin.

Run with the advice above on the PCT and you will be fine Bro. Everything in life is about expermintation, or else how fun would it be to even breathe?
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Re: pct question
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2007, 02:44:06 PM »
Amen. You need to figure out what works best for you. Remember we're all different.

QFA.

Best to have Clomid and Nolva on hand as an "in case" plan, hell you might not need it, but it's better to have it on hand than to get to that point and have an "oh shit" moment.  I don't think you'll need to use HCG for your first test cycle, run 3-4 cycles first and then do some experimentation with it.