Gh15 was right about creatine

[Emmortal]

I don't necessarily agree with the 1gram per lb of body weight, but I certainly know that the RDA of protein isn't good enough for bodybuilding, I've read plenty of studies on it.  I've seen you be more than condescending when someone spouts some bullshit so I really don't think you have any place in telling me how to react when someone says something ridiculous like that.

Edit: And yea, I could have been a little less condescending =)

[busyB]

I don't necessarily agree with the 1gram per lb of body weight, but I certainly know that the RDA of protein isn't good enough for bodybuilding, I've read plenty of studies on it.  I've seen you be more than condescending when someone spouts some bullshit so I really don't think you have any place in telling me how to react when someone says something ridiculous like that.

Edit: And yea, I could have been a little less condescending =)

If not 1g. then go by 1.4 -2 g./kg of bodyweight for active individuals.

The ISSN has good stuff on the subject. That is the link below, not sure if it will work. If not, go to www.issn.org and search for protein requirments.

http://www.jissn.com/content/4/1/8

[Necrosis]

I don't necessarily agree with the 1gram per lb of body weight, but I certainly know that the RDA of protein isn't good enough for bodybuilding, I've read plenty of studies on it.  I've seen you be more than condescending when someone spouts some bullshit so I really don't think you have any place in telling me how to react when someone says something ridiculous like that.

Edit: And yea, I could have been a little less condescending =)

my character is an asshole, get with the program. really im a helpful guy and have spent tons of my time via pm and msn helping people when they ask for it. however my character who is usmokepole is an asshole.

i should say something like you dont know shit.

[Necrosis]

its not me its my character, he is an asshole, not me.

[The Master]

its not me its my character, he is an asshole, not me.

How many people gain access to your asshole each year on average?

[Necrosis]

How many people gain access to your asshole each year on average?

6.5 billion-candidate because he is a weirdo. so quite a few save candidate who is stranger then fiction.

[Emmortal]

my character is an asshole, get with the program. really im a helpful guy and have spent tons of my time via pm and msn helping people when they ask for it. however my character who is usmokepole is an asshole.

i should say something like you dont know shit.

Oh I know how much you've helped people, me being one of them, I've learned a lot from you, and compared to other people, yea I don't know shit, but I'll call bullshit on something when I see it.  That's just how it is.

[shiftedShapes]

there are a bunch of articles on pubmed showing that trained athletes require normal to high normal amounts of protein. why dont you do the research yourself and learn about it, not being condescending but everyone seems to beleive the myth that 1 gram per pound etc.. which is brotelligence.

LOL brotelligence

[The Master]

6.5 billion-candidate because he is a weirdo. so quite a few save candidate who is stranger then fiction.

Candidate = seriously weird, but in a creepy way.

Debussey hopes that he stays away from the roids. That can kill him.

[4thAD]

i use AST's creatine and it works well for me, very inexpensive as well.

For once we can agree on something! Most of AST's products are really good!

[Tombo]

i've never thought it made me 'stronger' in the sense of absolute, but endurance wise, sure!

always helps me get a few reps out, but i only take it once a day and pre-workout.. thats all, none of this bullshit loading (using the product faster) period.

[Necrosis]

I don't necessarily agree with the 1gram per lb of body weight, but I certainly know that the RDA of protein isn't good enough for bodybuilding, I've read plenty of studies on it.  I've seen you be more than condescending when someone spouts some bullshit so I really don't think you have any place in telling me how to react when someone says something ridiculous like that.

Edit: And yea, I could have been a little less condescending =)

shit dude i never seen the part where you said "when someone spouts bullshit". some people have given advice in this forum that could actually killl people, so i have a short leash with fuggin morons like that.

smack the tiny tits around as much as you want

[David Puddy]

Creatine does fuck all, the sooner people realise the better
ta ta

It goes into muscle cells. So no muscles -> does "fuck all",

That's right.

[busyB]

It goes into muscle cells. So no muscles -> does "fuck all",

That's right.

What kind of jibberish is this???   

[David Puddy]

What kind of jibberish is this???  

Ask the eight ball.

[busyB]

Ask the eight ball.

I don't do coke

[gtbro1]

What do you mean by "good brand"  ? you sound like these guys who actually believe what mags write in ads..........just take some creapure straight from Germany.

I think I read somewhere that there was only a few companies that made the creatine itself....all the different sup companies buy the raw form from the few suppliers and put it into their mix. I may be mistaken though.

[busyB]

I think I read somewhere that there was only a few companies that made the creatine itself....all the different sup companies buy the raw form from the few suppliers and put it into their mix. I may be mistaken though.

There were different grades once upon a time, German, American and Chinese. Twinlab was notorius for using a cheap, Chinese grade that tore you up.

Creapure is the best at this point.

[David Puddy]

There were different grades once upon a time, German, American and Chinese. Twinlab was notorius for using a cheap, Chinese grade that tore you up.

Creapure is the best at this point.

How about maleate?

[busyB]

How about maleate?

Di-creatine Malate is different than Monhydrate powder.

Have not seen any studies on Malate vs. Monhydrate. Have not seen Di-Creatine Malate sold as a powder by itself. Have seen it in No-Xplode and other NO Pre-Workout products.

[ngm21084]

i thought i read somewhere that the di-creatine malate and the creatine esther ethyl wasnt worth it because they both turned into creatinin faster than regular mono therefore needing to consume more of it at one time..anyone else here this?

[busyB]

i thought i read somewhere that the di-creatine malate and the creatine esther ethyl wasnt worth it because they both turned into creatinin faster than regular mono therefore needing to consume more of it at one time..anyone else here this?

Wouldnt be true of Ethyl Esther, actuall needing less than monohydrate. Mono is poor digesting, maybe 30% if lucky which out of a 5g. scoop, netting 1.5 g. of mono. Ethyl is in 2-3 g. servings because the ethly ester protects the creatine and you absorb more. I have used all kinds and now, mono does give me the shits so I switch to a Kre-alkyln pre-workout. THat is why a lot of people get the runs on mono, because they can not digest it at all.

I believe it is just what is easier for you to digest and if you are crapping out the mono or gut aches, bloat, try the Ethly and see if you digest it better...

[Emmortal]

http://www.cr-technologies.net/cee_pr.html

I had found that a while back, but just dug it up.

[ngm21084]

hey thanks emm i knew i had read it somewhere....although thats not where i read it from it says the same thing i read...

[busyB]

Again, all about digesting the creatine. If you are shitting your pants from Monhydrate, what good is that? That is why I use Krealklyn which is a buffered form of Mono.

I have had friends get great results from Ethyl because they can not digest Mono. I was at the ISSN conference and saw that poster on Ethyl. Talked with one of the guys and said Ethyl could work for some that can not digest Mono, but not any better like the ads claim.