Author Topic: Who is the most overrated fighter? (Read 5459 times)

Mark Kerr · « **on:** January 17, 2008, 07:00:51 AM »

I will have to say Randy Couture. His 16-8 record isn't that great.

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2008, 08:00:31 AM »

Pretty much the only guy to truly beat Randy in the last five years is Chuck Liddell (that's not counting that fluke punch by Vitor that cut Randy's eyelid and resulted in a TKO). Nine of Randys' last eleven fights have been Championship fights, so it's not like he's fighting all these cans. I would say guys like Marcus Davis (he's on the top 10 list for beating a bunch one dimensional fighters), Gomi (who hasn't looked good in a fight in over a year, and is still ranked #1 in the LW div), Houston Alexander was proved to be overrated, Matt Serra (he's a helluva coach, and I was there when he won the belt, but I think there was a certain degree of luck involved in his win over GSP) and I still have my doubts about Ken-Flo and Forrest. Im sure more will come to mind.

Bluto · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2008, 08:17:27 AM »

Bas Rutten.

BigNBloated · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2008, 09:09:47 AM »

As much as i dont like ken flo, he is the real deal. I witnessed him tool everyone in my gym for 45 minutes. Not to say the guys at my gym are top notch but it really gives you an idea of what it means to be in the UFC and getting title fights. The skill gap is amazing.

Archer77 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2008, 09:33:41 AM »

Melvin Gallard
Yves Edwards
Forrest Griffin: who I like. He has been getting better.)
Houston Alexander: self evident. Literally a one hit wonder. All punches no ground game
Quinton Jackson: Who I also Like. His record is ok but he lost against a lot of tough competition. The difference is that he beat Liddell (handily) and Henderson. Tough guy no doubt.
Rameau Thierry Soloudjou:
Tim Sylvia: more than anything he is awkward to fight. Randy figured him out which should be the blue print on how to defeat Frankenstein.
Josh Koscheck: very one dimensional

Big Worm · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2008, 11:08:50 AM »

Mark Kerr.

RancherRanger · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2008, 12:52:33 PM »

Jorge Gurgel
Melvin Guillard
Crow

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2008, 12:59:26 PM »

Quote from: Big Worm on January 17, 2008, 11:08:50 AM

Mark Kerr.

No sir.

In his prime he was the shit!

260 ripped, roided to the max and addicted to nubian. Kerr was a fighting machine.

Faust · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:33:37 PM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on January 17, 2008, 12:59:26 PM

No sir.

In his prime he was the shit!

260 ripped, roided to the max and addicted to nubian. Kerr was a fighting machine.

It's a bit easy to blow your own horn mate.

Ruffneck · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2008, 03:36:33 PM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on January 17, 2008, 07:00:51 AM

I will have to say Randy Couture. His 16-8 record isn't that great.

Aint the best record in the world but as the old saying goes records are for DJs - Couture has had some great fights and has been a multiple weight champion. You can really fault that.

Bluto · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2008, 03:57:07 PM »

id put rashad evans on that list as well

coltrane · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2008, 04:05:51 PM »

Diego "nightmare" Sanchez

americanbulldog · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2008, 05:50:31 PM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on January 17, 2008, 12:59:26 PM

No sir.

In his prime he was the shit!

260 ripped, roided to the max and addicted to nubian. Kerr was a fighting machine.

Unless you run into Ice cold, and knees on the ground.

Mark Kerr · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2008, 06:25:07 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on January 17, 2008, 05:50:31 PM

Unless you run into Ice cold, and knees on the ground.

Igor was good. But Mark was a beast.

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2008, 08:01:26 PM »

Quote from: Bluto on January 17, 2008, 03:57:07 PM

id put rashad evans on that list as well

Then i'd add Michael Bisping to that list that has Rashad on it.

kietel74 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2008, 10:14:22 PM »

Rashad is most annoying with his shaky hands and dance routine. It changes all the time who would of thought cro cop would have been knocked the fuck out with a head kick from a bjj black belt! look at Rich Franklin good fighter before but now?? Silva smashed him twice really messed him up to. Good on them for getting in there and giving the fans some awesome viewing. What about Jardine? sure he beat chuck with his leg kick jab cross combo but he is hard to watch.

benchmstr · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2008, 04:51:00 AM »

matt hughes

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Logan32 · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2008, 05:23:57 AM »

Quote from: benchmstr on January 18, 2008, 04:51:00 AM

matt hughes

bench

Matt Hughes? Are you serious? The only person to have really dominated Hughes is St Pierre and he will pretty much dominate anyone. As much as I think Hughes can be a pr*&k you can't really say he was overrated. He has wins over Frank Trigg, George St Pierre, BJ Penn, Carlos Newton, Sean Sherk, Royce Gracie but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion and I guess this is an opinion thread so rock on...

coltrane · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2008, 06:44:23 AM »

Quote from: benchmstr on January 18, 2008, 04:51:00 AM

matt hughes

bench

WHAT?!?!

BigNBloated · « **Reply #19 on:** January 18, 2008, 08:51:06 AM »

No one has held a title belt longer than Matt Hughes in the UFC he is hardly overrated. Boring? Yes. Overrated? No.

benchmstr · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2008, 12:05:00 PM »

Quote from: Logan32 on January 18, 2008, 05:23:57 AM

Matt Hughes? Are you serious? The only person to have really dominated Hughes is St Pierre and he will pretty much dominate anyone. As much as I think Hughes can be a pr*&k you can't really say he was overrated. He has wins over Frank Trigg, George St Pierre, BJ Penn, Carlos Newton, Sean Sherk, Royce Gracie but hey everyone is entitled to their opinion and I guess this is an opinion thread so rock on...

not really overated,but overhyped.think about everytime dana white is on tv saying that "matt hughes is the strongest" or"he is the greatest".i just think that he isnt that great compared to a few others,but he has the advantage of being very marketable.

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Big Worm · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2008, 12:40:48 PM »

Marc Cerr.. Marrk Kkerr.. Marck Kcerr.. Oh yeah..Mark Kerr.

BDsauce · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2008, 02:28:29 PM »

Bas Rutten and Tito Ortiz

americanbulldog · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2008, 03:33:39 PM »

Quote from: Mark Kerr on January 17, 2008, 06:25:07 PM

Igor was good. But Mark was a beast.

Vov ran over Kerr, each time they fought.

Archer77 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2008, 10:13:39 PM »

Quote from: BDsauce on January 18, 2008, 02:28:29 PM

Bas Rutten and Tito Ortiz

I agree about Ortiz, he is way over rated. His punching power in comparison to other fighters is paltry. He was a guy who had a skill, take downs, at a time when other fighters had not developed an effective take down defense. Now that most fighters have worked on this he is no longer much of a threat to the light weight division. I don't think it says much that he has to wins over a geriatric Ken Shamrock.