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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2008, 11:44:36 AM »
Quote from: kwri298 on June 26, 2008, 11:43:02 AM
Tyson fought nobodies.  He fights Holyfight (who was outside of his prime) and gets destoryed.  Lennox Lewis is the best heavyweight of the era.  I think the questions should be could Ali beat Lennox if they were both in their prime.  I would give the edge to Lewis.
By the time Tyson fough Holyfield and Lewis, he was out of his prime oo. He was in prison for 3 years and no where near a boxing ring. We are talking about Tyson in his prime in the mid to late eighties here. In which case he would have ko'd everyone in sight.
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2008, 11:46:59 AM »
Quote from: Playboy on June 26, 2008, 11:44:36 AM
By the time Tyson fough Holyfield and Lewis, he was out of his prime oo. He was in prison for 3 years and no where near a boxing ring. We are talking about Tyson in his prime in the mid to late eighties here. In which case he would have ko'd everyone in sight.
Dead Wrong.  Lennox Lewis would have destoryed Tyson in his prime.  It's funny the time in prison saved Tyson's legacy.  If he didn't go to jail he would have been ko'ed by Lewis and we would not even be having this discussion.
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2008, 11:50:14 AM »
i do agree that lewis is very underated, and was probly the biggest punching heavyweight out there,, was just he was such a lazy fighter at times...
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2008, 11:52:54 AM »
Quote from: kwri298 on June 26, 2008, 11:46:59 AM
Dead Wrong.  Lennox Lewis would have destoryed Tyson in his prime.  It's funny the time in prison saved Tyson's legacy.  If he didn't go to jail he would have been ko'ed by Lewis and we would not even be having this discussion.
by the time he went to prison he was already on the way down (mentally), after the huge mega fight with spinks his brain turned into Whacko Jacko status and began to think that the world was his oyster.
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2008, 11:58:14 AM »
Quote from: mon_of_steele on June 26, 2008, 06:38:30 AM
Hard to say.  Ali was a boxer and tyson was a fighter.  Ali would probably end up frustrating Tyson like Holyfield did and make him snap.

Exactly!


I think Ali would've been able to stay away from Tyson's danger zone, which is on the inside...but after time of dancing around and popping Tyson with his jab, i think Tyson would've gotten VERY frustrated, and done WHATEVER IT TAKES to get Ali in the corner or against the ropes to rip his head off...


So, I see either a KO by Tyson, or a disqualification, of Tyson
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2008, 12:01:19 PM »
Quote from: kwri298 on June 26, 2008, 11:46:59 AM
Dead Wrong.  Lennox Lewis would have destoryed Tyson in his prime.  It's funny the time in prison saved Tyson's legacy.  If he didn't go to jail he would have been ko'ed by Lewis and we would not even be having this discussion.

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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2008, 12:14:46 PM »
Who do you think would be more of a class-act - Tyson around 2000 or Ali in his prime?  :D
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2008, 12:19:16 PM »
Quote from: kwri298 on June 26, 2008, 11:46:59 AM
Dead Wrong.  Lennox Lewis would have destoryed Tyson in his prime.  It's funny the time in prison saved Tyson's legacy.  If he didn't go to jail he would have been ko'ed by Lewis and we would not even be having this discussion.
That is the funniest thing I heard all day and the most unaccurate.
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2008, 12:21:44 PM »


They should do a computer simulation, like in ROCKY VI  ;D



What about Ali vs Roy Jones Jr  :o  (despite the weight difference I think that would be a good matchup)
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2008, 12:23:44 PM »
move this retarded 3rd grade argument in the sports section
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2008, 12:30:10 PM »
Robin Givens vs Tyson was no contest :'(
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2008, 12:30:56 PM »
Quote from: sevastase on June 26, 2008, 12:23:44 PM
move this retarded 3rd grade argument in the sports section
Move your fucking retared pedophile posts to the garbage. Stick to tennis homo. Boxing is a man's sport.
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2008, 01:40:12 PM »
Quote from: Fatpanda on June 26, 2008, 11:25:56 AM
hahahahahahahahaha - no man alive could take tysons best shots in his prime, and certainly not ali.

as for who would win - ali couldn't even beat parkinsons  ::)

oh and btw any run of the mill ufc guy would beat them both.

you just contradicted yourself!! you said no man alive could take tysons best shots then you said any run of the mill ufc guy can beat him!! hahahaha well which is it!?!?
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2008, 01:41:16 PM »
Bad Mofo!
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2008, 01:42:29 PM »
Quote from: Playboy on June 26, 2008, 12:30:56 PM
Move your fucking retared pedophile posts to the garbage. Stick to tennis homo. Boxing is a man's sport.

Tennis and soccer are discussed here so why not boxing?!!?
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2008, 01:43:37 PM »
Quote from: MoralMan on June 26, 2008, 01:42:29 PM
Tennis and soccer are discussed here so why not boxing?!!?

he was referring to sevastase who was saying to remove this thread
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #66 on: June 26, 2008, 01:45:16 PM »
Quote from: Brutal_1 on June 26, 2008, 01:43:37 PM
he was referring to sevastase who was saying to remove this thread

I know! And i was asking Sevatese why we shouldnt discuss boxing here!
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2008, 04:11:58 PM »
Tyson doesn't get enough credit for his early defensive skills, as taught to him by Cus D'Amato. His peekaboo style was perfect and his leg strength allowed him to actually duck below punches (see the Quick Tillis fight) with ease. I think Tyson would have proved a bigger threat to Ali than Frazier did - greater strength, speed and skill. Ali won two of their three matches, so I think Tyson could have had equal success. I'm talking Tyson circa 1986, not 1996 or, God forbid, 2006.

For longevity at the top and ability to win against adversity though, Ali is miles ahead of Tyson.
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2008, 04:25:59 PM »
only a moron thinks tyson is an all time great, let alone actually compete with ali

just ask any boxing historian

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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2008, 04:47:19 PM »
a young TYSON would absolutely murder ALI... first round k.o. ; just like anybody else who would fuck with MT in his youth/prime
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2008, 04:48:59 PM »
Give Ali 90's drugs and he would be a beast too

And remember Tyson got knocked out by no name fighters after prison. And prior to that he didn't really bet anybody great
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2008, 04:53:45 PM »
Quote from: cheftim on June 26, 2008, 04:50:26 PM
Ali couldn't beat Tyson because Mike was a brawler/hard puncher. Lewis was a boxer. Mohammed would easily out box Lennox Lewis. Any heavyweight in the history of the sport couldn't out box Ali. Hence the name "The Greatest".

And we're talking about a boxing bout, not street brawl
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2008, 04:55:56 PM »
Quote from: candidizzle on June 26, 2008, 04:47:19 PM
a young TYSON would absolutely murder ALI... first round k.o. ; just like anybody else who would fuck with MT in his youth/prime

Hell yeah!
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2008, 05:17:34 PM »
Quote from: MoralMan on June 26, 2008, 01:40:12 PM
you just contradicted yourself!! you said no man alive could take tysons best shots then you said any run of the mill ufc guy can beat him!! hahahaha well which is it!?!?

i don't see how i contradicted myself - i think tyson would ko any man he hit with his best shot in his prime ( probably could kill a few with them too). a ufc guy wouldn't allow himself to be hit by tyson, he'd take him down and choke him.

would you go toe to toe with tyson even now? hahahahahaha

thought not.
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Re: Mike Tyson at his peak Vs Ali at his
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2008, 05:25:43 PM »
Woa, this is a tough one !!!!!!!! My heart says Ali. However my head says Tyson. To me, it all boils down to who's training Tyson. If Kevin Rooney or "Cus" is training Tyson, I say Tyson.
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