Not talking about Stang50 anymore...but just out of curiosity, does anyone here believe that lifestyle issues such as excessive stress, lack of sleep, overtraining, all which can raise cortisol levels, and too much alcohol and marijuana intake can adversely affect testosterone levels. For example if a guy in his mid 20's finds he has low testosterone and he does all of the above, would you advise a guy like that first to just get on HRT or would you have him address his lifestyle first and get retested in a few weeks to see if there was an improvement. I know this type of philosophy goes against the established medical system of treating the symptom of a disorder, rather than adressing the root cause. For example, a young guy has low test..goes to the doctor and the doctor puts him on hormones. Does he ever try to figure out why the guy's test levels are low to begin with? I mention this because a few months back I had been training hard for almost a year with no layoff, daytrading large sums of money (stress) and found I had a the symptoms of low testosterone(no libido, no pump in the gym, etc.)If I went to a doctor at that point I'm sure my hormones would have tested low. Then I took a layoff from the gym and on the 10th day, I started waking up with some serious morning wood and I knew my test levels were getting back up.