1st time user of Havoc, need advice

[salmanilla2000]

Another first time user of havoc and I need advice. I’m planning on purchasing RPN Havoc and I’m sketching out an inventory of supplements I need (during cycle, post cycle therapy and during both and after). The below information was based on an article from Anabolics.com Here’s what I have so far:

SUPPLEMENTS DURING CYCLE
•Recomp Performance Nutrition Havoc
•NOW Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator
•Higher Power DHEA 200
•Recomp Performance Nutrition NoXidant/Gut Health combo
•Higher Power L-Taurine XS 1000mg
•Recomp Performance Nutrition DCP


SUPPLEMENTS DURING PCT (POST CYCLE THERAPY)
1)Cycle Support Post Cycle Support and stack with SAN Myotest
OR…
2)Novedex XT and stack with Halodrol Liquid Gels (I’ve tried Novedex before and was very impressed)
•Higher Power Creatine 1500
•Higher Power Micronized Creatine
•Higher Power CE3 Creatine Ethyl Ester
•MuscleTech Intravol


SUPPLEMENTS DURING CYCLE, PCT AND AFTER
•Animal Pak
•Olympian Labs Omega-3 Fish Oils
•NOW L-Carnitine 250mg
•NOW Glucosamine & Chondroitin Plus MSM
•NOW L-Glutamine 1000mg
•NOW Blood Pressure Health
•ZMA-5
•Max Extreme Thermxx

[LatsMcGee]

Why so much?  Why 3 different creatines?

[DK II]

Why so much?  Why 3 different creatines?

Stacking creatines gives you 231131,444242424% more muscle gains.

[Luolamies]

Well, you certainly have your supplements covered...
At least you seem somewhat informed, unlike 90% of users. I honestly think you will do just fine. Just keep close eye on your blood pressure and if you start to feel (a bit weird) don't panic.

Good luck...

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

Stacking creatines gives you 231131,444242424% more muscle water gains.

fixed

[njflex]

seems like alot of effort and $$$$$.for what a few lbs or so,if ur looking for the holy grail of physique altering/transformation go to the drug board and get insight,i don't condone or favor either way but really supps should be basic anything with drug like names or purported gains is just placebo and expensive as some smaller cycles.good luck.

[coltrane]

Scrap it all. Waste of money. Micronized creatine, whey protein isolate and some nitrous oxide if you must. The rest is garbage really.

Nitrous?  haha.  yeah, let's take advice from you.

[mass 04]

 

[coltrane]

Force of habit. Nitric. Happy? 

Happy?  Yes, I am now from all that nitrous oxide.   

[salmanilla2000]

Thanks for the replies. Kepp them coming.

I'll admit, the list does look long and expensive. I haven't tried the Higher Power Creatine 1500, Higher Power Micronized Creatine and Higher Power CE3 Creatine Ethyl Ester yet, but I've read good feedback about those items. I'm currently taking MRI CE2 HI-DEF, CE2 Platinum, No2 Black and Black Powder. all seem fine to me (no side affect that I can tell), but are really expensive, so I was looking for reputable creatine at a lower cost.

[DK II]

Thanks for the replies. Kepp them coming.

I'll admit, the list does look long and expensive. I haven't tried the Higher Power Creatine 1500, Higher Power Micronized Creatine and Higher Power CE3 Creatine Ethyl Ester yet, but I've read good feedback about those items. I'm currently taking MRI CE2 HI-DEF, CE2 Platinum, No2 Black and Black Powder. all seem fine to me (no side affect that I can tell), but are really expensive, so I was looking for reputable creatine at a lower cost.

Epic throwing money out the window.

Get some Creapure and you are set. Everything else is a waste of money, especially taking different creatines at the same time.

[calfzilla]

Looks pretty good.  NAC is also good for the liver.  Not sure why you are using 3 types of creatine.  Speaking of which can anybody tell me why creatine is often used as part of PCT?  I will make a thread regarding this if it is not answered here. 

Good luck on your cycle bro. 

[Luolamies]

Yep, as far as Creatine goes any clean Creatine monohydrate will do just fine.