free will doesnt exist if god knows the future, if he knows what you are going to do, how is that a choice? it was something you were going to do regardless, hence, already known.
That's hardly true. If I were to give a simple analogy, it would be similar to those old-school "Choose-your-own-adventure" books. The author of the book knows the outcome, no matter which option the reader takes.
I answered stellas questions, and GC, what are you talking about? offering up your daughters to be raped, asking for human sacrificies etc= immoral. Having an eternal punishment for a finite crime=immoral.
One, Lot did that out of cowardice. NOBODY ordered Lot to do so, not his visitors or anyone else.
Two, God didn't ask for any human sacrifice (as far as that silly reference to Jephthah is concerned. In fact, I don't recall the Lord asking him for ANY SACRIFICE, whatsoever).
Three, notwithstanding the debate as to whether the punishment awaiting those who reject the Lord is eternal or not, who exactly says that it's immoral?
It's what I said earlier, without some standard of right or wrong, you have no basis on which to declare something moral vs. immoral. And, neither do these silly Bible critics or "thinking atheists".
I know i dont get morality from your god because i am more moral, i wouldnt create man and then kill everyone when i wasnt happy with my creation, when i can apparently do anything i choose, the last option would be killing everyone. LoL. what about those who lived before christ, they were created to be sent to hell, why did god wait so long to create humans? he sat around for 14 billion years then decided to create humans. Your story stretches credulity and makes no sense at all.
Listen to what you just said. "The last option would be killing everyone". That means (1) that would be an option, nonetheless and; (2) you've conveniently forgotten the opportunities that Israel had to repent, prior to judgment hitting them.
Again, what happens when Israel (or any other nation) CONTINUES to violate your laws, your covenant, your guidelines that you've established with them, jeopardizing other people's lives, in the process?
why do you need external to have morality, it is a inborn thing that we all have evolved with, something that serves us quite well in fact. Things also change, it might be cool to condem homos back in the bible, but less and less so nowadays, right and wrong are relative, and movable. Morality is also studied in evolutionary theory quite extensively. Animals show morals in fact, bonobos show many human characteristics, our homology is alike, our genetics are alike, shit only us and chimps have periods, strange correlation wouldn't you say, almost to much of a coincidence?
IF morality were inborn, you wouldn't have to teach your kids manners. You wouldn't have to teach them ethics or civics.
The simple fact is that you MUST do so, else risk having thoroughbred-brats, running amok in your house.
If morality is simply relative, then it's OK if I rob you at gunpoint, as long as I can justify it in my own mind. After all, that "Thou Shalt Not Steal" is so old and outdated by your standards.
And, should you get married, your wife shouldn't be expected to remain faithful to you in the least. If she wants to screw the poolboy or the mailman, that's fine, per your standards of "movable" morality.
