Israel Attacks Civilian Aid Ships

[ToxicAvenger]

What's your point?

point...you sure dont differentiate between sunni and shiia when you make your thread...but conveniently you used the word ahmadi here instead....

r ws that not obvious enough to you nickey hearsh?

[Fury]

There really isn't a difference between Sunni and Shia beyond which fucktard the two groups thought deserved to lead the Muslims after Moohammed's death. They both share the same religious beliefs but they differ politically. That argument really justifies centuries of fighting and millions of deaths. Yet we in the West expect Muslims to act peaceful towards us. They're not even capable of getting along with each other, let alone getting along with people they think are inferior trash. 

Funny how you seem to think the Ahmadis are trash just like a certain group of people do. Maybe Hugo was right.  

[24KT]

There really isn't a difference between Sunni and Shia beyond which fucktard the two groups thought deserved to lead the Muslims after Moohammed's death. They both share the same religious beliefs but they differ politically. That argument really justifies centuries of fighting and millions of deaths. Yet we in the West expect Muslims to act peaceful towards us. They're not even capable of getting along with each other, let alone getting along with people they think are inferior trash. 

Funny how you seem to think the Ahmadis are trash just like a certain group of people do. Maybe Hugo was right.  

You almost could be describing American Christians... or the Irish. We all now how they got along. 
let's not even bring up the Europeans or even the koreans. last I heard, they've been at war for over 50 yrs.

twist it any way you want, your Islmophobia is so obvious it's funny. Trying to deny it is just pathetic.
Why not have balls enough to come out and say you hate muslims? it's already so obvious to everyone else.

[Fury]

You almost could be describing American Christians... or the Irish. We all now how they got along.  
let's not even bring up the Europeans or even the koreans. last I heard, they've been at war for over 50 yrs.

twist it any way you want, your Islmophobia is so obvious it's funny. Trying to deny it is just pathetic.
Why not have balls enough to come out and say you hate muslims? it's already so obvious to everyone else.

Twist it any way you want, your're a black Muslim that hates all non-Muslims, specifically white Americans, all Christians and all Jews. Trying to deny it is pathetic.
Why not have balls enough to come out and say it? It's already so obvious to everyone else.

But thanks for bringing up past Christian atrocities. Shame they pale in comparison to the 270 million non-Muslims that have died by Muslim hands during the 1400 year Muslim jihad. Another couple thousand years and the Christians may or may not catch up.

Props for again using the concocted Muslim world du jour in "islamphobia", though. Figured you would shut up with that after you embarrassed yourself when you dropped it in the thread about Times Square terrorist Faisal Shazad, you dumb islamofascist. 

[24KT]

Twist it any way you want, your're a black Muslim that hates all non-Muslims, specifically white Americans, all Christians and all Jews. Trying to deny it is pathetic.
Why not have balls enough to come out and say it? It's already so obvious to everyone else.

But thanks for bringing up past Christian atrocities. Shame they pale in comparison to the 270 million non-Muslims that have died by Muslim hands during the 1400 year Muslim jihad. Another couple thousand years and the Christians may or may not catch up.

Props for again using the concocted Muslim world du jour in "islamphobia", though. Figured you would shut up with that after you embarrassed yourself when you dropped it in the thread about Times Square terrorist Faisal Shazad, you dumb islamofascist. 

I would tell you to put down the crack pipe, ...but by the looks of things, I doubt there are any brain cells that could get harmed. so smoke away. And enjoy the crystal meth while you're at it. Maybe you'll get lucky, and those big fucking horse teeth of yours will fall out. It would be an improvement.

[Ron]

In terms of PR strategy its hard to think of how the israelis could have done things any worse than they did with this incident.

Yes, I agree here. They underestimated what they would find on that ship. Five ships agreed to be boarded. The sixth ship, which had 600 anti-Israeli hatred people on it, consisted of people who were there just to fight and hurt as many Israeli soldiers that they could. The Israeli commandos were very surprised, heading into a situation with just paintball bullets. Once they realized that they were being attacked with knives, sticks, guns, and being thrown overboard and hurt, it got serious, and they fought back. They wanted to wait until daylight so they could videotape it all. That is why is was done at night.

Definitely not peace activists.  

Hmm... just because the sole purpose of the mission was to break the blockade of a group who wants the destruction of Israel?  A simple, head to the port, let the items be inspected, and then let them enter into Gaza would of been easier. That wasnt the case. The goal was to provoke outcry with a provacation, an attack on the commandos, and then cry. Then play as much as they can to the media crying foul.

International waters , Israel fired first before boarding. and does Israel OWN these international waters?

With Egypts approval (huh - Egypt), and repeated warnings, in which the first 5 ships were stopped and agreed to be boarded, the sixth ship decided to provoke an outcry. In any other country, that ship would of been fired on and sunk. If you know that the SOLE mission is to violate your country, you have a right to stop it before it happens.

These ship which were from Turkey were bringing humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza

Really??? Then why didnt they just do it via the proper channels? So easy to do that. These ships were there for ONE thing - to break the blockade and give legitimacy to the terrorist organization of Hamas.

Pakistani Muslims slaughtered 100 unarmed, peace-advocating Ahmadis (91 more than this incident) in less than 2 hours last week while they were praying and there was nary a peep about it.

Yes, every day, lots of incidents like this happen. But who cares? After all, it isnt Israel, the only Democratic nation in the middle east.

[Emmortal]

As for 'Civilian' Aids ship, another bullshit crap.

Civilian aid ships go through the the ports of Israel to give there supplies to Gaza, so no weapons or anything else will get there, until the government there recognizes Israel, and doesnt push for the 'desctruction of Israel'.

Just get that simple fact!   Imagine someone 30 miles from you intent on killing you.  Jeez.

I'm just reporting the news, not voicing an opinion either way.

[Hugo Chavez]

check out this video:

http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/20105104

Two things I have to ask questions about.  Israeli Prime Minister Nuttisayahoo says they're shipping 10's of thousands of rockets?  Really?  They had rockets on board? He clearly said they were shipping rockets... WTF...  And some old lady at the end of the video says that boats in international waters are not subject to boarding.  Israel said what they did was legal, this lady is saying it was illegal.  Has anybody found out which is true?  Common sense says it would not be legal but I'm still waiting for someone in the media to point out the truth here.  Haven't seen it yet....

[Hugo Chavez]

A simple, head to the port, let the items be inspected, and then let them enter into Gaza would of been easier.

lol, you're kidding right?

[James28]

What did you think was goig to happen?

Israel warns you not to come to the military zone border.  Israel asks you again not to come.  Israel repeatedly says they will board and escort you to a detention area if you continue. Israel says all humanitarian goods will go through the proper channels to get to Gaza.

The ships dont care. The ships dont answer. The ships continue to go.  The ships attack the solders that board. The soldiers attack back

If you dont realize that the people on the ships dont care about anything except getting some reaction, you are just plain dumb.

Go yell and scream about the 46 soldiers of the South Korean army that was hit by a sumbmarine missle.

Oh yeah, I guess protests dont matter than.

Same typical crap.

Any other country, it would be called defending themselves.

For Israel, it is something different.

Get your head out of your asses.

Not allowed to sail through an ILLEGAL blockade on INTERNATIONAL WATERS? Who the fuck does Israel think they are? Pull your head out of your ass.

[Hugo Chavez]

Not allowed to sail through an ILLEGAL blockade on INTERNATIONAL WATERS? Who the fuck does Israel think they are? Pull your head out of your ass.

ok, this is obviously a complex topic.  One we should engage without petty ownage.  Telling Ron to get his head out of his ass is over the line and not constructive.  Shame on you!

[jtsunami]

check out this gem, Israelis celebrating attack on Turkish Aid Ship - infront of Turkish Embassy,Tel Aviv

This is real by the way.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6a3_1275348204

[jtsunami]

What did you think was goig to happen?

Israel warns you not to come to the military zone border.  Israel asks you again not to come.  Israel repeatedly says they will board and escort you to a detention area if you continue. Israel says all humanitarian goods will go through the proper channels to get to Gaza.

The ships dont care. The ships dont answer. The ships continue to go.  The ships attack the solders that board. The soldiers attack back

If you dont realize that the people on the ships dont care about anything except getting some reaction, you are just plain dumb.

Go yell and scream about the 46 soldiers of the South Korean army that was hit by a sumbmarine missle.

Oh yeah, I guess protests dont matter than.

Same typical crap.

Any other country, it would be called defending themselves.

For Israel, it is something different.

Get your head out of your asses.

Ron these people were in international waters, Israel is equivalent to pirates trying to take over a ship.  The people on the ship had every right to defend themselves from people trying to take over their ship.

[loco]

There really isn't a difference between Sunni and Shia beyond which fucktard the two groups thought deserved to lead the Muslims after Moohammed's death. They both share the same religious beliefs but they differ politically. That argument really justifies centuries of fighting and millions of deaths. Yet we in the West expect Muslims to act peaceful towards us. They're not even capable of getting along with each other, let alone getting along with people they think are inferior trash. 

Funny how you seem to think the Ahmadis are trash just like a certain group of people do. Maybe Hugo was right.  

If you're Sunni, you ain't Shi'ite!

[freespirit]

and does Israel OWN these international waters?


if not...plain n simple terrorism....

if a muslim country had done the same it'd be implied as such....sooo lets keep the rules consistent

[Fury]

Interesting development someone brought up. The flotilla departed from northern Cyprus. Northern Cyprus is currently occupied by Turkey, an occupation that has been deemed illegal by the EU and the UN.

Ironic that Turkey is the loudest on this condemnation of an illegal occupation when they're doing that very thing themselves. Never mind the fact that Turkey celebrates the 1915 genocide of 3 million Armenians as a holiday or that their govt. won't acknowledge that it was genocide. Nevermind the fact that Turkey is still planning to take shipment of their purchase of $200 million worth of Israeli drones later this summer.



If the government of Turkey feels so strongly about ending disputed occupations, why does it not start with the disputed occupation it is operating itself? Or do the world's permanent victims get a free pass on that again?

All I'm getting from Turkey is that they appear to be laying the groundwork for a resurgence of the Ottoman Empire.

[Colossus_500]

Yes, PR wise they sorta fucked themselves. However, the idiots on the ships were warned repeatedly that this would happen. The Jews don't make threats, they kick ass.....libs have short historical memories. These activist morons should support the actual aid getting into the area instead of pissing off the IDF.

Well-said, HH6.  And let's be honest, this was no "peaceful" demonstrating group aboard this ship: 

[ToxicAvenger]

There really isn't a difference between Sunni and Shia beyond which fucktard the two groups thought deserved to lead the Muslims after Moohammed's death. They both share the same religious beliefs but they differ politically. That argument really justifies centuries of fighting and millions of deaths. Yet we in the West expect Muslims to act peaceful towards us. They're not even capable of getting along with each other, let alone getting along with people they think are inferior trash. 

Funny how you seem to think the Ahmadis are trash just like a certain group of people do. Maybe Hugo was right.  

when did i say that the ahmedi r trash?

you r great at putting works into peoples mouth cause you have the free time to spend hours upon hours on here....


i dont...you did not use the word muslim for ahmedi simply cause it sounds better to the layman "muslim kill ahmedi" ..... thing is...most smart people here see though your douche personality

[ToxicAvenger]

With Egypts approval (huh - Egypt), and repeated warnings, in which the first 5 ships were stopped and agreed to be boarded, the sixth ship decided to provoke an outcry. In any other country, that ship would of been fired on and sunk. If you know that the SOLE mission is to violate your country, you have a right to stop it before it happens.

warning someone off of international waters is like me warning you not to walk on the side walk (public property) and then attacking you....and then screaming terrorist if you tried to defend yourself...israel in this case got " too big for its boots"

international waters....INTERNATIONAL WATERS....say it 3 times...

NOT israeli waters ron...

anyhow...ya still haven't answered my pm dood

[drkaje]

Can anyone here imagine the tsunami of poop that would follow an attack on a ship delivering stuff to Israelis?

[ToxicAvenger]

Can anyone here imagine the tsunami of poop that would follow an attack on a ship delivering stuff to Israelis?

as i said....its not terrorism when israel does it....


i simply hate it...but its true....America time n again ends up coming across as Israel's bitch 

[drkaje]

as i said....its not terrorism when israel does it....


i simply hate it...but its true....America time n again ends up coming across as Israel's bitch 

Only because we are.

[Fury]

when did i say that the ahmedi r trash?

you r great at putting works into peoples mouth cause you have the free time to spend hours upon hours on here....


i dont...you did not use the word muslim for ahmedi simply cause it sounds better to the layman "muslim kill ahmedi" ..... thing is...most smart people here see though your douche personality

The Sunni and Shia don't consider Ahmadi to be Muslims and have been persecuting them since their movement came about. Regardless, does it matter? The so-called freedom fighters from the Religion of Peace(TM) stormed two houses of prayer and their living area and massacred 100 unarmed people in cold blood. Watching you brush that off while crying about non-Muslim terrorism is amusing.

Pakistani Muslims are real tough guys murdering 100 people who denounce violence while they're praying.

[Dos Equis]

Did anyone see the footage of these peaceful people attacking the Israeli soldiers, including throwing one over board? 

[Skip8282]

Can anyone here imagine the tsunami of poop that would follow an attack on a ship delivering stuff to Israelis?

I'm trying to follow your reasoning here Kaje, so help me out.  They are our allies.  Why shouldn't we help them and help them against their enemies?

If the argument truly is we should not be supporting either side, then why should there be any outrage or condemnation at the Israeli's attacking their enemies?