Author Topic: These Pride "Champions" are so delicate... (Read 6792 times)

MindSpin · « **on:** June 10, 2010, 04:22:42 PM »

Dana White tells MMA Junkie that Mauricio "Shogun" Rua will be sidelined indefinitely due to another knee surgery, and thus there's no time-table for his first defense against Rashad Evans:

"He just got out of the hospital; it was a successful surgery," White said. "He had the surgery in [Los Angeles], and he's going to be doing all his therapy in (Las) Vegas.

"So he'll be in Vegas for the next five weeks."

White said Rua's injury occurred during the fight with Machida, though a report from ESPN's "MMA Live" the night of the May 8 event stated Rua's knee was already injured.

"He got hurt in the fight," White asserted.

benchmstr · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2010, 07:44:41 PM »

so he injured himself during the fight(cause machida didnt)....and then a injured pride fighter still beat the belt off of your golden boy?

wow, real convincing arguement you got going on here

bench

MindSpin · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2010, 08:46:30 PM »

Same guy that got beat by tuf winner Forrest Griffen...lol!!

George Whorewell · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2010, 04:46:57 AM »

Didn't Griffin just back out of his last fight due to injury?

Didn't Tito just back out of his last fight due to injury?

Wasn't Brock Lesnar out for several months recently with an injury?

How about Amir Sadallah (sp)? Does he get injured much?

Ryan Bader?

GSP?

This thread is beyond retarded and another sterling example of why you and your gimmick are unapologetic UFC ball polishers.

HICKSON · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2010, 05:20:36 AM »

LULZ..

Thread-backfire!

Spin you got no case here bro.

Fury · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2010, 05:52:46 AM »

Quote from: George Whorewell on June 11, 2010, 04:46:57 AM

Didn't Griffin just back out of his last fight due to injury?

Didn't Tito just back out of his last fight due to injury?

Wasn't Brock Lesnar out for several months recently with an injury?

How about Amir Sadallah (sp)? Does he get injured much?

Ryan Bader?

GSP?

This thread is beyond retarded and another sterling example of why you and your gimmick are unapologetic UFC ball polishers.

Hahahaha! Brock Lesnar faked the sniffles and will have taken over 1 year off before he steps in the cage again.

Mindspin seems hell-bent on destroying his reputation on this board.

rccs · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2010, 11:50:32 AM »

Mindspin, sometimes I think that you don't know anything about Pride... you own yourself...

Earl1972 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 11, 2010, 02:50:32 PM »

hahahahaha mindspin set himself up for an owning

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AC Slater · « **Reply #8 on:** June 11, 2010, 10:27:11 PM »

nice self owning, cockspin.

BIG_STI · « **Reply #9 on:** June 12, 2010, 09:56:47 AM »

cumspin is a retard

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #10 on:** June 13, 2010, 07:53:47 PM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on June 11, 2010, 05:52:46 AM

Hahahaha! Brock Lesnar faked the sniffles and will have taken over 1 year off before he steps in the cage again.

Mindspin seems hell-bent on destroying his reputation on this board.

Before he walks into oblivion (ie. Carwin's left and right fists)

AC Slater · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2010, 06:59:52 AM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on June 13, 2010, 07:53:47 PM

Before he walks into oblivion (ie. Carwin's left and right fists)

i hope to god carwin wins

carwin has been tested more than brock, but in honesty he hasnt been tested much at all. who has he beaten? gonzaga is his only good win. the only other 'name' carwin has beaten is mir. mir is a fucking bum who got tooled by brandon vera.

now brock hasnt been tested at all. hes faught zero tough guys.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2010, 07:14:53 AM »

Quote from: AC Slater on June 14, 2010, 06:59:52 AM

i hope to god carwin wins

carwin has been tested more than brock, but in honesty he hasnt been tested much at all. who has he beaten? gonzaga is his only good win. the only other 'name' carwin has beaten is mir. mir is a fucking bum who got tooled by brandon vera.

now brock hasnt been tested at all. hes faught zero tough guys.

Are you saying a guy like Werdum would be a tougher opponent for either of these two?

AC Slater · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2010, 02:36:33 PM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on June 14, 2010, 07:14:53 AM

Are you saying a guy like Werdum would be a tougher opponent for either of these two?

absolutely.

Werdum has 2 wins over gonzaga and a win over aleks emelianenko and overeem. Not to mention hes a jiu jitsu world champion. what big names have cock chestnar and shane carwin beaten? (frank mir is not a good fighter, dont play that one.)

carwin beat gonzaga ill give him that. that is the only big name hes fought.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2010, 02:45:17 PM »

Quote from: AC Slater on June 14, 2010, 02:36:33 PM

absolutely.

Werdum has 2 wins over gonzaga and a win over aleks emelianenko and overeem. Not to mention hes a jiu jitsu world champion. what big names have cock chestnar and shane carwin beaten? (frank mir is not a good fighter, dont play that one.)

carwin beat gonzaga ill give him that. that is the only big name hes fought.

What's with you and "big names".....There is much more than the fighters name and record in MMA. Styles make fights. Period.

George Whorewell · « **Reply #15 on:** June 15, 2010, 05:13:30 PM »

^ Says the guy who needs disposable diapers anytime Brock Lesnar's name is brought up.

He is the most classic example I can think of with respect to a big name who has fought absolutely nobody.

Carwin had to earn and fight his way to the top, while Lesnar was given made to order cans in every single fight he's had so far.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #16 on:** June 15, 2010, 05:36:20 PM »

Quote from: George Whorewell on June 15, 2010, 05:13:30 PM

^ Says the guy who needs disposable diapers anytime Brock Lesnar's name is brought up.

He is the most classic example I can think of with respect to a big name who has fought absolutely nobody.

Carwin had to earn and fight his way to the top, while Lesnar was given made to order cans in every single fight he's had so far.

Brock has fought some big names. Regardless of if you agree or not.
Carwin is actually one of the smallest names Brock has fought....he is also Brocks toughest fight yet.
How's that for a names owning.

George Whorewell · « **Reply #17 on:** June 15, 2010, 08:30:31 PM »

Brock fought 1 big name 50 years past his prime and 50lbs lighter.

Frank Mir is not a big name and Heath Herring was a big name 6 years ago.

Lesnar, however is considered a big name when he has done zilch to earn that kind of recognition.

Carwin has by far had the harder road to the title, has fought tougher competition and hopefully he will expose Brock for the one dimensional, unskilled blob that he is.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #18 on:** June 15, 2010, 09:03:33 PM »

Quote from: George Whorewell on June 15, 2010, 08:30:31 PM

Brock fought 1 big name 50 years past his prime and 50lbs lighter.

Frank Mir is not a big name and Heath Herring was a big name 6 years ago.

Lesnar, however is considered a big name when he has done zilch to earn that kind of recognition.

Carwin has by far had the harder road to the title, has fought tougher competition and hopefully he will expose Brock for the one dimensional, unskilled blob that he is.

I agree Carwin has had a tougher road, and I do hope he wins. Carwin will be a respectable champ. You have to give Brock credit though, we can argue about the level of competition he has faced, but to even beat the guys he has as a newcomer to the sport is remarkable. He does have skills. He is a tough guy to beat for sure. Hard to look past a guy like Brock.

Don't get me wrong, I think his attitude is an embarrassment.

AC Slater · « **Reply #19 on:** June 16, 2010, 09:19:13 AM »

Quote from: WeightPSHR on June 15, 2010, 09:03:33 PM

I agree Carwin has had a tougher road, and I do hope he wins. Carwin will be a respectable champ. You have to give Brock credit though, we can argue about the level of competition he has faced, but to even beat the guys he has as a newcomer to the sport is remarkable. He does have skills. He is a tough guy to beat for sure. Hard to look past a guy like Brock.

Don't get me wrong, I think his attitude is an embarrassment.

no credit for brock.

when he fought couture, he was 50lbs heavier, 15 years younger and it was couture's first fight in over a year. Add to the fact that couture was never any good to begin with, and you have all the ingredients for a brock win.

WeightPSHR · « **Reply #20 on:** June 16, 2010, 09:28:49 AM »

Quote from: AC Slater on June 16, 2010, 09:19:13 AM

no credit for brock.

when he fought couture, he was 50lbs heavier, 15 years younger and it was couture's first fight in over a year. Add to the fact that couture was never any good to begin with, and you have all the ingredients for a brock win.

You can not use weight as an excuse whatsoever. Couture willingly fought at HW. Couture also manhandled and tossed around that UFC has-been/reject Tim Sylvia.

Regardless, you just condoned exactly what I have been saying all along:

The new breed on HW monsters are too much to handle for guys weighting 225-245. Have you ever seen Brock or Carwin in real life. UNBELIEVABLE how huge they are.
Never before has any HW division had skilled guys with conditioning weighing 280+ in the cage.
These are not fat 280 lb guys either. Overeem is another guy that has adjusted to the 'new breed', but he is even small compared to Carwin and Lesnar.

coltrane · « **Reply #21 on:** June 16, 2010, 10:34:12 AM »

Quote from: George Whorewell on June 15, 2010, 08:30:31 PM

Brock fought 1 big name 50 years past his prime and 50lbs lighter.

Frank Mir is not a big name and Heath Herring was a big name 6 years ago.

Lesnar, however is considered a big name when he has done zilch to earn that kind of recognition.

Carwin has by far had the harder road to the title, has fought tougher competition and hopefully he will expose Brock for the one dimensional, unskilled blob that he is.

By what standard? Dr. Seuss's theories of MMA?

Fury · « **Reply #22 on:** June 16, 2010, 11:01:45 AM »

Quote from: coltrane on June 16, 2010, 10:34:12 AM

By what standard? Dr. Seuss's theories of MMA?

What did Mir do to earn a big name, besides being the subject of a massive UFC hype campaign? His record isn't impressive, he has a handful of fights against top competition (most of which he lost) and was never considered an elite fighter until the build-up to the last Brock fight.

coltrane · « **Reply #23 on:** June 16, 2010, 11:17:04 AM »

Quote from: BerzerkFury on June 16, 2010, 11:01:45 AM

What did Mir do to earn a big name, besides being the subject of a massive UFC hype campaign? His record isn't impressive, he has a handful of fights against top competition (most of which he lost) and was never considered an elite fighter until the build-up to the last Brock fight.

Laughable. He's beaten top guys, been on many main events for the top MMA organization ever. He's been the UFC heavyweight champ.

What the FUCK are you talking about Mir isn't a big name. You're a COMPLETE idiot bro. Please stop posting on this board. Your mma knowledge is pitiful.

coltrane · « **Reply #24 on:** June 16, 2010, 11:18:44 AM »

Mir's beaten:

Lesnar
NOG
Sylvia
Kongo

Just to name a few. I really really doubt that most knowledgable MMA fans see Mir and NOT a big name.

Unreal stupidity by BF on here.