hawaii backyard fights. Holy Shit

[che]

Fighting is utterly pointless.
You win=lawsuit
You lose=lawsuit/busted face

Spoken like a true bitch

[che]

WTF was that 

[pellius]

The culture is different here than on the mainland. You grow up fighting here and it's no big deal. That's why they just call it "scraps." You could be playing football one minute then get into a fight the next minute and then it's back to the game. You meet some of your best friends in a fight. If it's a fair fight, and overwhelming it is, if you lose you just accept it. You don't come back with a gang with guns and knives like they do on the mainland. After you fight and get it out of your system there's a sort of mutual respect involve. Remember BJ and Pulver? Hated each other for years. I mean really, really hated each other. But after their fight it was over. They're the best of friends now. Even if you fought during school hours the teachers just broke it up but you never got in trouble or got sent to the office or anything. If it's after school they just let it go. I remember at my Catholic school there was this big play yard in the back of the kindergarten building where we'd meet after school to fight. Nobody cared. I remember getting into a scrap in the third grade right outside the church when school was getting out. Both of us were on the ground and I was holding him in a head lock. The kids going home just walked around us. Nobody even bothered to watch because we were just little kids and didn't have a rep.

Hell, I'm pushing fifty now and I had some words with a guy from another school. We decided to meet and let our fists do the talking. Even though I was over twenty years older than him I was really getting the best of him with my hands. Then we clinched and this sucker (who had a Black Belt in Judo) got a sweet hip throw on me and as he tossed me in the air he came down right on top of me and broke my ribs. Then he mounts me and starts dropping bombs and my nose starts gushing blood and my right eye swelled up so I couldn't see. I couldn't breath or lift my right hand and he eventually figured out that I couldn't defend myself anymore. And that was it. Nobody jumped in. Hell, my best friend was there but he let me take my beating as he should have. It was my choice to get into it. Now if someone jumped on someone else's back then all hell would break loose and that guy jumping in would get bum rushed and stomped to death. You can jump in to break up a fight if your guy is really taking a beating but you never ever attack someone from behind.

I admit  that it's been a while since I've taken such a bad beating but it's all good. We're the best of friends now and I was even over at his house to watch the Lesnar fight.
 

[spinnis]

im stoned though so might be a little less impressive tomorrow lol. But the handspeed of most of those fight are for sure higher then any normal street fights. and no jumping in or sucker punch or anything,

[spinnis]

The culture is different here than on the mainland. You grow up fighting here and it's no big deal. That's why they just call it "scraps." You could be playing football one minute then get into a fight the next minute and then it's back to the game. You meet some of your best friends in a fight. If it's a fair fight, and overwhelming it is, if you lose you just accept it. You don't come back with a gang with guns and knives like they do on the mainland.
  

this is exactly what Im trying to say lol.

this is Very uncommon these days.

[spinnis]

fast forward to 0:26 and you'd understand my point.  

hahahahahahahahahahahha you're kidding right?!?!!?

seriously now?

its not hard to kick someone in the nuts if they STAND STILL like a retard for a few seconds in the middle of a fight about to happen hahahahaha

you're fucking retarded hahahaha

[Parker]

Due I was just showing how refreshing these controlled fights are rather then stabbing someone ion the back or shoting them with ytour glock or soemthing.
Just disputes that ends in normal fights and then its all good again...

Fair enough, but I've seen fights like this in person, and usually it's about some silly beef or perceived "disrespect", or some he said she said bs, after a while, it gets old, especially the arrest records, and not being able to get a job. And many always gotta prove themselves, and get into a fight. I'm sure there are dudes who know somebody that can't turn down a fight, and that somebody always has issues with the law, his girlfriend, his parents, society, his PO, he's always fighting somebody.

As far as the shootings and stabbings, that's more of your densely populated cities and "urban areas", and yes, many of the dudes don't know to fight, the girls do, although. But the thing is, many times if you win a fight out where I am, let's say out at the club, the loser will "pop the trunk on your ass", aka get a gun.

[polychronopolous]

Hell, I'm pushing fifty now and I had some words with a guy from another school. We decided to meet and let our fists do the talking. Even though I was over twenty years older than him I was really getting the best of him with my hands. Then we clinched and this sucker (who had a Black Belt in Judo) got a sweet hip throw on me and as he tossed me in the air he came down right on top of me and broke my ribs. Then he mounts me and starts dropping bombs and my nose starts gushing blood and my right eye swelled up so I couldn't see. I couldn't breath or lift my right hand and he eventually figured out that I couldn't defend myself anymore. And that was it. Nobody jumped in. Hell, my best friend was there but he let me take my beating as he should have. It was my choice to get into it. Now if someone jumped on someone else's back then all hell would break loose and that guy jumping in would get bum rushed and stomped to death. You can jump in to break up a fight if your guy is really taking a beating but you never ever attack someone from behind.

I admit  that it's been a while since I've taken such a bad beating but it's all good. We're the best of friends now and I was even over at his house to watch the Lesnar fight.
  

Did y'all arrange the fight on the phone or something? And then set up a time and place?

That's pretty cool that you are still getting in fist fights at 50 years old though, I gotta give you props on that.

[spinnis]

Fair enough, but I've seen fights like this in person, and usually it's about some silly beef or perceived "disrespect", or some he said she said bs, after a while,

come to think of it ive actually heard that, that alot of the fights starts because of back talking etc because everyone knows each other.

But ok, Im not used to seeing decent fights like this. maby swedes suck at streetfighting then lol. Or everyone here just fight without any knowledge at all but there it seems like everyone at least has the basics down which isnt the case here at least.

here it always seems to start with a cheap shot a sucker punch etc (as in Alot american fights ive seen Non hawaii) but there they square off Before to fight to start on Equal terms, that Im not at least used to see ion street fights.

[pellius]

this is exactly what Im trying to say lol.

this is Very uncommon these days.

I got to get a video camera. I live in a rural area and you're always seeing kids in board shorts and no shirt scrapping. You drive by people's run down houses and you'll see a punching bad and mats. Since fighting is so ingrained in the culture and with BJ Penn being the only nationally recognized athlete from a State with precious few stars, it's really taken hold. Even when I was training in Cali they were already talking about Hawaii being ground zero for future MMA stars because it's right in the middle of Japan and the mainland.

I was wrestling with my friend's nine year old and the kid tried to throw a flying arm bar on me. My nephew's dad is a relative to the Penn family (his mom is cousins to BJ's mom) and now that my nephew has graduated from high school he's moving to Hilo to go to college and train a BJ's gym. My nephew got me good with a round house kick back when he was around six years old. Caught the BJJ bug at around 14 years old. Fucking kid is now living my dream living in Hilo and hanging with the BJ posse.    

[MuscleMcMannus]

you just missed the entire fucking point,m Hawaians doesnt seem do that type of shit like your pussy ass would.

They just brawl, no head stomps or nothing. these days you hear about fucking stabbing in fights all the time etc. no one just fights. and ONE on ONE =)
No one got kicked in the end by someone friends when it went on the ground etc.

Hey dumbass I didn't say anything about stomping people's heads in or stabbing people and kicking them when they were down.  But you posted this video saying how awesome and skilled they were.  Like a fucking kid who's never been in a fight.  My point is........those little bitches in the video like you would go down in a matter of minutes if you ever fought anything with just a little bit of skill.  "Brawling"..............lol what are you a fucking ghetto black?  

[spinnis]

Hey dumbass I didn't say anything about stomping people's heads in or stabbing people and kicking them when they were down.  But you posted this video saying how awesome and skilled they were.  Like a fucking kid who's never been in a fight.  My point is........those little bitches in the video like you would go down in a matter of minutes if you ever fought anything with just a little bit of skill.  "Brawling"..............lol what are you a fucking ghetto guy?  

please join in after your ass has recovered from the owning. Its obvious you're still upset lol.

[MuscleMcMannus]

hahahahahahahahahahahha you're kidding right?!?!!?

seriously now?

its not hard to kick someone in the nuts if they STAND STILL like a retard for a few seconds in the middle of a fight about to happen hahahahaha

you're fucking retarded hahahaha

It's called TRAINING  dumbass.....they are practicing technique and movement and what not.  If you can't comprehend a point and deduce that when you watch something I think your drunk mom dropped you on your loopsided ugly head one too many times.  

[spinnis]

It's called TRAINING  dumbass.....they are practicing technique and movement and what not.  If you can't comprehend a point and deduce that when you watch something I think your drunk mom dropped you on your loopsided ugly head one too many times.  

We have a live one!

 M M MELTDOWN hahaha

and yeah its really gonna help training on doing shit to someone who stands Still ahhahaa, oh how hard hahaha

[pellius]

Did y'all arrange the fight on the phone or something? And then set up a time and place?

That's pretty cool that you are still getting in fist fights at 50 years old though, I gotta give you props on that.

No we were at the beach when the argument started. I knew him previously and knew what school he trained out of because I've seen him at some of the BJJ tournaments here. That's what I like about face to face stuff. Eventually you get to say what are you doing this weekend. Lets meet at 808, bitch. Here on the internet you can mouth off like a bad ass all you want because you know you're not going to be called out.

[pellius]

im stoned though so might be a little less impressive tomorrow lol. But the handspeed of most of those fight are for sure higher then any normal street fights. and no jumping in or sucker punch or anything,

Well, partaking of the fine herb is also very, very common here on the islands.

[pellius]

I was at a New Year's party and an argument broke out between these two guys. Both in their early twenties. It was a good fight. Lot of back and forth. They've guys were tough and weren't giving up. Finally when one guy wins (I felt due to better conditioning than skill as the other guy I thought was sharper and knew how to get back on his feet quick after a take down). And then WTF, their fucking dads start going at it. That really got the crowd going. Fucking oldsters are throwing hands like their life depended on it. Some really good shots are landing. Just when you think one is done he just keeps going. They're just like their boys. To the death. Finally both collapse from exhaustion and when they recover they start laughing their ass off and hugging like a couple of homos and it's back to the booze.

On the mainland there would be gun fire and dead bodies and then weeks of back and forth drive bys. 

[Parker]

I got to get a video camera. I live in a rural area and you're always seeing kids in board shorts and no shirt scrapping. You drive by people's run down houses and you'll see a punching bad and mats. Since fighting is so ingrained in the culture and with BJ Penn being the only nationally recognized athlete from a State with precious few stars, it's really taken hold. Even when I was training in Cali they were already talking about Hawaii being ground zero for future MMA stars because it's right in the middle of Japan and the mainland.

I was wrestling with my friend's nine year old and the kid tried to throw a flying arm bar on me. My nephew's dad is a relative to the Penn family (his mom is cousins to BJ's mom) and now that my nephew has graduated from high school he's moving to Hilo to go to college and train a BJ's gym. My nephew got me good with a round house kick back when he was around six years old. Caught the BJJ bug at around 14 years old. Fucking kid is now living my dream living in Hilo and hanging with the BJ posse.


    

Pellius, in this economy, I'd rather be making money than hanging with BJ's posse. It's like people who hang with Kanye (I doubt BJ has Kanye money), but not making any money, man, I rather make the dough and push the nice car and be okay. Times are hard, if your fists can make you money, by all means do it, but I see it as somewhat of a catch 22. Those who generally fight all the time got anger issues, or something to prove. If I look around and see nothing but run down houses, I want to see how to escape that, and pretty much that equals a job or education or education that leads to a job. Or athletics. I think BJ is better fighter than Lesnar, but Lesnar is a top draw, because he is physically bigger. So what does that really tell you? And one can relate that to the tiny state of Hawaii vs the bigger states. We always search for the bigger wave, so ride the wave, ride the wave.  

[Silverback Gorilla]

I'll be straight up, I live out here, these local dudes don't fuck around.  I was in the Marines (just got out) and it was pretty normal to see a Marine walking around on base with his shit lumped up from fucking with the wrong local that past weekend.  MMA is huge here, they live to fight and everybody wants to be BJ Penn lol.  It looks like one of those fights was close to where I live now out in Waikiki, there are fights here EVERY weekend.  Not a lot of shooting/stabbing going on though, they'll give you a fair one.  People are cool for the most part, as long as you show respect it's no problem, unless you're white.  Whites are hated here by many locals, my buddies catch shit all the time lol.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

Fucking hell, they all have decent skills also, fucking awesome lol

does everyone know how to fight there or what lol

  They say... don't ask me who "they" are.
 A long time ago when Victor Belfort was training with Carlson Gracie in LA.
 UFC times, Victor sometimes disappear  at night, so he could go to some place in LA to do some underground fights.
 There's some footage around.

[pellius]

Pellius, in this economy, I'd rather be making money than hanging with BJ's posse. It's like people who hang with Kanye (I doubt BJ has Kanye money), but not making any money, man, I rather make the dough and push the nice car and be okay. Times are hard, if your fists can make you money, by all means do it, but I see it as somewhat of a catch 22. Those who generally fight all the time got anger issues, or something to prove. If I look around and see nothing but run down houses, I want to see how to escape that, and pretty much that equals a job or education or education that leads to a job. Or athletics. I think BJ is better fighter than Lesnar, but Lesnar is a top draw, because he is physically bigger. So what does that really tell you? And one can relate that to the tiny state of Hawaii vs the bigger states. We always search for the bigger wave, so ride the wave, ride the wave.  

Why so serious, my friend. My nephew is only 18 years old and is going to college in Hilo. But you can do other things then just study. Some like to get together with friends to lift weights, or go mountain biking, or rifle shooting. My nephew likes to fight. He's living with the Penn family. How often do you get a chance to train in something you love with one of the best in the world and met some of the top fighters from all over the world?

They'll be time enough to join the rat race and live the life of the 8-5 drone.

The Penn family owns Hilo Real Estate. Money is not a problem for them even without the fortune BJ is massing. BTW, I think the Penn/GSP fight was a bigger draw than the Lesnar fight.
 

[pellius]

I'll be straight up, I live out here, these local dudes don't fuck around.  I was in the Marines (just got out) and it was pretty normal to see a Marine walking around on base with his shit lumped up from fucking with the wrong local that past weekend.  MMA is huge here, they live to fight and everybody wants to be BJ Penn lol.  It looks like one of those fights was close to where I live now out in Waikiki, there are fights here EVERY weekend.  Not a lot of shooting/stabbing going on though, they'll give you a fair one.  People are cool for the most part, as long as you show respect it's no problem, unless you're white.  Whites are hated here by many locals, my buddies catch shit all the time lol.

I always say, both from being raised in Hawaii and living on the mainland and also spending a lot of time in the South that Hawaii is the most racist state in the union. But because it's against Whites no one cares. They still have Kill Haole (white people) day in the public schools which is the day before Christmas vacation. Growing up White in Hawaii and having to go to public schools really sucks. They always get picked on and get beaten up. But some of the toughest guys on this island are those Haoles that were born and raised here.

[spinnis]

They still have Kill Haole (white people)

LOL! just listened to the Joe Rogan podcast and he had mayhem there, and Mayhem was explaining that when he was in hawaii (joes friend claimed everyoen is friendly and no one fights in hawaii only in the movies) that during his and before and on his way to the MMA event to fight everyoen was screaming "Kill haole" to him lol.

[pellius]

LOL! just listened to the Joe Rogan podcast and he had mayhem there, and Mayhem was explaining that when he was in hawaii (joes friend claimed everyoen is friendly and no one fights in hawaii only in the movies) that during his and before and on his way to the MMA event to fight everyoen was screaming "Kill haole" to him lol.

Oh, let me tell you, we hated Mayhem when he first started fighting out here. But he proved himself and earned respect and now we love him. His "Haole Boy can Scrap" T-shirts were a big hit here. But that's how it is here. Just like you learn to respect someone who showed some heart in a fight whether you won or lost and become friends. Mayhem is a character but he showed he was a tough MoFo who has heart and not just a big mouth. We respect and admire that here.

[spinnis]

Oh, let me tell you, we hated Mayhem when he first started fighting out here. But he proved himself and earned respect and now we love him. His "Haole Boy can Scrap" T-shirts were a big hit here. But that's how it is here. Just like you learn to respect someone who showed some heart in a fight whether you won or lost and become friends. Mayhem is a character but he showed he was a tough MoFo who has heart and not just a big mouth. We respect and admire that here.

that Fucking Kimura man. Holy shit.