Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground. What do you guys think?

[Soul Crusher]

weird little circle we've run here.  You're defending the socialist point!  I love it!

I'm trying to look at reality on the ground when it occured at the moment.  Also - these two are likely now to require social assistance from the govt - so what was actually accomplished here over his not paying the $75?  nothing.  

[Hereford]

Fucking unreal the goddamn FIRE DEPARTMENT would let the guys house burn down... whether or not he paid the ransom beforehand.

I hope he civil sues that dept to the point they have to buy 10X the size of the house he had.

Bastards.

[225for70]

CAPITALISM AT ITS FINEST...

Forza socialismo...

Capitalism is broken anyway

[Option D]

I'm trying to look at reality on the ground when it occured at the moment.  Also - these two are likely now to require social assistance from the govt - so what was actually accomplished here over his not paying the $75?  nothing.  

Right...seemed like they let policy get in the way of common sense

[Straw Man]

Maybe obama caused the guy to lose his job and he could not afford the $75? 

Maybe his health care costs skyrocketed due to ObamaCare and could not afford the $75? 

Go call Mal - I did not think of that angle.  Probably true. 

he said he just forgot to pay it

how does it feel like to be called a Lib for expressing an common sense opinion

can you imagine how f'd up this country would be if Repubs had their way and privatized everything

[240 is Back]

I'm trying to look at reality on the ground when it occured at the moment.  Also - these two are likely now to require social assistance from the govt - so what was actually accomplished here over his not paying the $75?  nothing.  

By your logic..........

Why would ANY hospital allow a person to DIE instead of treating him for an illness?  
Why would ANY store let a person STARVE instead of just giving them free food?

It's damn likely almost everyone in that town will pay the $75 for firecare next year

[OzmO]

he said he just forgot to pay it

how does it feel like to be called a Lib for expressing an common sense opinion

can you imagine how f'd up this country would be if Repubs had their way and privatized everything

You mean like when a insurance company pulls funding hours before a patient is about to go into surgery?

[225for70]

he said he just forgot to pay it

how does it feel like to be called a Lib for expressing an common sense opinion

can you imagine how f'd up this country would be if Repubs had their way and privatized everything

33367 is libertarian now...Don't confuse him for a liberal...

he left the republican party last feb/march if i recall..

[240 is Back]

to be clear -

If we can justify it financially - socialism is okay?

if it makes financial sense to give someone a service (they didn't pay for) because in the long-term, they'll give that $ back to the 'system'....

it's okay to give them the same service (for free) as those who paid?



LIB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[24KT]

LOL  poor 333386. He's never gonna live this down. 

[Fury]

to be clear -

If we can justify it financially - socialism is okay?

if it makes financial sense to give someone a service (they didn't pay for) because in the long-term, they'll give that $ back to the 'system'....

it's okay to give them the same service (for free) as those who paid?



LIB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They'll give it back? They could just take the house and it wouldn't make a world of difference to him as he would have lost it in the fire. They'd actually make money selling it.

CAPITALISM wins.

[240 is Back]

They'll give it back? They could just take the house and it wouldn't make a world of difference to him as he would have lost it in the fire. They'd actually make money selling it.

CAPITALISM wins.

I see.

So the govt should force services upon people who won't purchase it for 20 cents a day - and take their home for it?

LMAO.... the lib bullshit is awesome here.  I'm saying you let the mofo burn.  Other "conservatives" say it's okay to give services they didn't pay for (that others did), but you should confiscate their house for it.

Imagine losing your house because they put out a small kitchen fire and you coudln't pay the bill!!

[Fury]

I see.

So the govt should force services upon people who won't purchase it for 20 cents a day - and take their home for it?

LMAO.... the lib bullshit is awesome here.  I'm saying you let the mofo burn.  Other "conservatives" say it's okay to give services they didn't pay for (that others did), but you should confiscate their house for it.

Imagine losing your house because they put out a small kitchen fire and you coudln't pay the bill!!

Yawn. Didn't see anyone crying when the government was going to slap the preacher doing the koran burning on 9/11 with a $50k+ security bill even though he didn't request any police presence. Why is this different?  Now you're up in arms about the government sticking its nose in things yet you didn't give two shits about that. Talk about being selective.  

Oh, and in regard to forcing services on people who won't pay 20 cents a day, how's his home doing now? He's still got it, right? LOL.

[tonymctones]

Yawn. Didn't see anyone crying when the government was going to slap the preacher doing the koran burning on 9/11 with a $50k+ security bill even though he didn't request any police presence. Why is this different?  Now you're up in arms about the government sticking its nose in things yet you didn't give two shits about that. Talk about being selective. 

dont call 240 out on his hypocrisey...

at least he continually contradicts himself with one account instead of others that have gimmicks to do so 

[Fury]

dont call 240 out on his hypocrisey...

at least he continually contradicts himself with one account instead of others that have gimmicks to do so  

His "big picture" arguments that try to corner people by derailing the thread from talk about one topic and changing it into a debate on all services are hilariously dumb.

This guy said he'd pay whatever to have his house saved. They save the house, hit him with the cleanup bill. If not, they take the house and sell it, turning a profit even. Capitalism wins.

Socialism? Not even relevant here. It's only being brought up because 240 and co. are ignoring the fact that the guy asked for them to save the house at any cost and are instead claiming that saving it would have meant the "government was forcing services on him". 

Horrible, horrible attempt at spinning going on here.

[Soul Crusher]

LOL  poor 333386. He's never gonna live this down. 

Live what down?

[24KT]

Live what down?

Your liberal, socialist, commie-like inclinations. Deep down, you're just a closet commie aren't you? 

[Soul Crusher]

Your liberal, socialist, commie-like inclinations. Deep down, you're just a closet commie aren't you? 

Yeah, that's me - Chairman Wop 

[240 is Back]

If they put out the fire anyway - almost NOBODY in town pays it next year.
If they let this house burn - almost EVERYONE pays it next year.

I'm still laughing at "if you give him a service he didn't pay for, he'll pay taxes to make it up".... hahaha brutal socialist logic bro

[BM OUT]

The Sad thing is the Guy in the video i posted looks better than you, and he doesn't even train..

Imagine?You cant unrack 810lbs or unrack 605 in the bench.ANYTIME you want to put up your pics against mine let me know puke.Havent we gone through this before with you posting as another gimmick?You are owned everytime.Im MUCH better built then you,MUCH stronger then you,make more money then you,have a nicer house then you,my kid could beat the shit out of your kid and you as well.Your a loser and a fool.Do a google search on my name,then do one on your real name see what you come up with.Your a nobody.

[240 is Back]

You are a simple minded spook and a moron.

Pretty typical though for a black idiot

Your a typical black idiot who thinks everything in the world is free.

GET OFF THE F'N INTERNET AND GET A JOB SPOOK!

holy shit dude.  

[Soul Crusher]

If they put out the fire anyway - almost NOBODY in town pays it next year.
If they let this house burn - almost EVERYONE pays it next year.

I'm still laughing at "if you give him a service he didn't pay for, he'll pay taxes to make it up".... hahaha brutal socialist logic bro

240 - I believe in porportionality.  The guy totally screwed up and is a complete idiot, but i don't believe in such draconian penalties for minor crap like not paying a $75 fee. 

Its the same as people supporting ZERO TOLERANCE laws where a boy scout gets expelled from school for have a swiss army knife in show & tell. 

[Fury]

If they put out the fire anyway - almost NOBODY in town pays it next year.
If they let this house burn - almost EVERYONE pays it next year.

I'm still laughing at "if you give him a service he didn't pay for, he'll pay taxes to make it up".... hahaha brutal socialist logic bro

You're really making a fool of yourself here. I do love that you're conveniently ignoring that he said he would pay any cost for them to put the fire out and instead are claiming that them putting it out would be tantamount to "forcing services down his throat".

Troll.

[BM OUT]

You're really making a fool of yourself here. I do love that you're conveniently ignoring that he said he would pay any cost for them to put the fire out and instead are claiming that them putting it out would be tantamount to "forcing services down his throat".

Troll.

But you cant get house insurance while your house is burning down.THATS the point of insurance.The 75 dollars was an insurance that the firefighters would put a fire out.If you didnt pay you knew they werent going to put it out.This is like Obama care is going to be.You just dont buy insurance,pay a fine,THEN when you get cancer you call and get insurance.Meanwhile everyone else has been paying all along.Is that fair.

[Fury]

But you cant get house insurance while your house is burning down.THATS the point of insurance.The 75 dollars was an insurance that the firefighters would put a fire out.If you didnt pay you knew they werent going to put it out.This is like Obama care is going to be.You just dont buy insurance,pay a fine,THEN when you get cancer you call and get insurance.Meanwhile everyone else has been paying all along.Is that fair.

Who said to charge him $75? They could have charged him the cost of putting the fire out and then fined him on top of it. I guarantee everyone would be paying their $75 next year if they saw him get hit with a $20k bill.

Socialism has nothing to do with this issue and it's just 240 playing games.