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Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« on: February 13, 2011, 03:03:25 PM »
They're coming out tomorrow... we learn all about Obama's cuts to the budget.  Obama will slash ONE TRILLION dollars off the budget over 10 years.  he's slashing up programs.  Liberals consider these programs sacred - student loans, defense spending, clean water junk, etc.  

Obama freezes annual domestic spending for the next 5 years!

So what will we complain about?  not enough cuts?  Or, "how could he possibly hurt Americans like this?".  


(PS..... neither the white house nor republicans will touch social security spending, medicaid, etc.  OFF LIMITS?)

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2011, 03:47:48 PM »
Not sure i would say that liberals consider defense spending "sacred"


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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2011, 03:51:31 PM »
We are flat ass broke and need to cut with hatchet asap.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2011, 05:44:23 PM »
Not sure i would say that liberals consider defense spending "sacred"

nah, but the bulk of it is coming from social programs and liberals are going to shit.

I was just hoping to see some getbig 'conservatives' whine and opine for social programs getting the axe.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 05:57:06 PM »
Like I keep saying the only fair way, as shitty, distateful, and anger inducing as it may be, it to do it straight across the board.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 06:03:11 PM »
I havent heard about student loans...what i did hear about was pell grants, which are not student loans.

I agree with these being cut seeing as everytime i applied i got the shaft  :P

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 06:31:16 PM »
ABC news said student loans... i typed as they listed each item.  i guess we'll see in the morning.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2011, 05:14:38 AM »
White House Expects Deficit to Spike to $1.65 Trillion (Obama continues spending at record pace)
wall street journal ^ | 2/14/2011 | DAMIAN PALETTA and COREY BOLES




The White House projected Monday that the federal deficit would spike to $1.65 trillion in the current fiscal year, the largest dollar amount ever, adding pressure on Democrats and Republicans to tackle growing levels of debt.

The projected deficit for 2011 is fueled in part by a tax-cut extension that President Barack Obama and Republican lawmakers brokered in December, two senior administration officials said. It would equal 10.9% of gross domestic product, the largest deficit as a share of the economy since World War II.

The new estimate is part of Mr. Obama's proposed budget for fiscal year 2012, which becomes public Monday morning.

Mr. Obama is proposing $3.73 trillion in government spending in the next fiscal year, part of a plan that includes budget cuts and tax increases that administration officials believe will sharply bring down the federal deficit over 10 years.

The deficit would decline in fiscal year 2012 to $1.1 trillion, or 7% of gross domestic product, under Mr. Obama's plan, as a year-long payroll tax holiday and an extension of federal jobless benefits expired, administration officials said. By 2017, the budget plan says, the deficit would be shaved to $627 billion, or 3% of gross domestic product.


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WHAT BS!   Its the spending morons!

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2011, 05:22:53 AM »
There is SOOOOO much fraud, waste and abuse on the govt side of things that these "cuts" are mostly just tightening up things that should have been taken care of long ago.  Anyone who has ever worked in any part of the government knows that as the fiscal year comes to a close, ALL agencies spend to try to meet, or exceend the previous years budget so that they can receive at least as much the next year.  Organizations that come in under budget should be the ones recieving some types of incentives, instead of "rewarding" those that spend as much or more than the budget allows.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2011, 07:32:10 AM »
What budget cuts? Spending has increased to record highs, this is bad comedy and really indefensible. Usually when someone "cuts" a budget down it means actual spending outlays decrease, only in D.C. can something include budget "cuts" and still have spending go through the roof. I guess the last elections didn't really do much to change this Administrations course.

Someone give this it's own thread, a thread that has content and posts worth 3.73 trillion dollars.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2011, 07:34:06 AM »
Bama is a complete joke.   He is a madoff, but worse.       

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2011, 08:25:39 AM »


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Obama's Pathetic Budget
Fred Barnes
February 14, 2011 12:30 AM




Let’s be candid about President Obama’s budget. It’s pathetic. The country faces a worsening debt crisis and Obama has not come to play. He kissed off the crisis in his State of the Union address last month. And now his plan for spending over the next 10 years doesn’t come close to dealing with the debt problem.

So he 0-for-2 in coming to grips with the fiscal mess that threatens America’s economic position at home and abroad. Obama didn’t create the crisis, but in two years his spending has added $3 trillion to the national debt. In 2011, the deficit figures to be nearly 10 percent of the gross domestic product. In 2012, the deficit will exceed $1 trillion for the third consecutive year.

Obama would cut spending by $1.1 trillion over the coming decade. That figure is smaller than the projected deficit of $1.5 trillion in 2011. Think about that: Obama’s total reductions are less than a single year’s deficit. That’s what I mean by pathetic.

A highly publicized item in the 2012 budget is a 5-year (partial) freeze on discretionary spending, a saving of $400 billion. That was swallowed up this year when Congressional Budget Office re-calculated the deficit for 2011 deficit and boosted it from $1.1 trillion to $1.5 trillion, the biggest 1-year deficit ever.

Obama’s plan includes spending hikes in some areas. The most egregious may be $53 billion for construction of high-speed rail in Florida, California and several other states. This is one of the least cost-effective projects in the history of wasteful government spending. Yet it’s one of the president’s pet projects, and he appears more wedded to it than to taming the rise in the national debt.

The Obama budget is so unresponsive to the fiscal situation that it prompts this question: it’s merely a tactical budget. He’s now waiting to see what Republicans will propose in their 2012 budget, the outlines of which are to be hammered out by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan in April. Following that, Obama and congressional Republicans will negotiate, ultimately agreeing on a budget.

That’s the most benign interpretation I can think of. A more likely explanation: Obama has set the stage to attack Republicans for proposing spending cuts certain to be deeper than those Obama is advocating.

Democrats tend to believe that while Americans want spending to be reduced dramatically, they’ll feel differently when faced with cuts in specific programs such as education, transportation, research, and assistance to the poor. In other words, the public is philosophically conservative, but operationally liberal, or so many Democrats think.

In recent weeks, Democrats have talked up the possibility of a budget impasse that causes a government shutdown. When this happened in 1995, President Clinton and Democrats blamed congressional Republicans. So did the media. A repeat in 2011 would delight Democrats, assuming that once again Republicans get the blame. Pretty cynical, but Democrats are desperate after the clobbering they took in the election this past November.

By the way, the president’s own debt commission delivered its recommendation in December. It favored $4 trillion in spending cuts over 10 years. That includes cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, mandatory spending programs that Obama doesn’t touch.

Fred Barnes is executive editor of THE WEEKLY STANDARD.


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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2011, 08:43:59 AM »
weird... obama slashes 1.1 trillion and they refuse.

The repubs have a chance to stop 1.5 trillion in spending - THIS YEAR - and they promise to take that chance....  But then they don't do it.  They settle for 50 bil in cuts instead.


So - to be clear - Obama has cut 1.1 trillion the budget.
The repubs - with a chance to cut that much, opted for 50 bil.

Correct, 333386?

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2011, 08:47:23 AM »
weird... obama slashes 1.1 trillion and they refuse.

The repubs have a chance to stop 1.5 trillion in spending - THIS YEAR - and they promise to take that chance....  But then they don't do it.  They settle for 50 bil in cuts instead.


So - to be clear - Obama has cut 1.1 trillion the budget.
The repubs - with a chance to cut that much, opted for 50 bil.

Correct, 333386?

obama has not cut a damn thing and plans this over a DECADE!   The yearly deficit is larger than what he plans to save over a damn decade!


The only one remotely sensible in this so far is Rand Paul.  The rest are a joke.     

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2011, 08:48:09 AM »
LOL this coming from the guy who justified tarp?

do you know what happens if the debt ceiling wasnt raised 240?

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2011, 08:49:45 AM »
obama has not cut a damn thing and plans this over a DECADE!   The yearly deficit is larger than what he plans to save over a damn decade!

The only one remotely sensible in this so far is Rand Paul.  The rest are a joke.    

Didn't Rand Paul opt for stopping 50 bil in spending this year - instead of stopping 1.5 trillion new debt ceiling?  He promised he would do it.  Did he?


Look dude, we all know obama is doing this over 10 years... so it's 110 billion per year.  A drop in the bucket.  I'm just pissed that the repubs said they'd stop 1.5 trillion THIS YEAR - and they didn't!!!

So yes, in this next year - repubs have shaved 50 bil and obama has shaved 110 bil.  Fact.  And sad.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2011, 08:50:43 AM »
do you know what happens if the debt ceiling wasnt raised 240?

End of the world?

If bad things would have happened - why did Rand Paul and other tea party candidates PROMISE they wouldn't raise it?  Just preying on people's ignorance?

More campaign lies just to get a job?

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2011, 08:52:42 AM »
Didn't Rand Paul opt for stopping 50 bil in spending this year - instead of stopping 1.5 trillion new debt ceiling?  He promised he would do it.  Did he?


Look dude, we all know obama is doing this over 10 years... so it's 110 billion per year.  A drop in the bucket.  I'm just pissed that the repubs said they'd stop 1.5 trillion THIS YEAR - and they didn't!!!

So yes, in this next year - repubs have shaved 50 bil and obama has shaved 110 bil.  Fact.  And sad.


They have no even debated the issue yet and still have obama and reid to deal with.   


But please keep the real blame where it belongs - the object of your wet dreams who took a bad situation and exploded it.   

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2011, 08:57:22 AM »
They have no even debated the issue yet and still have obama and reid to deal with.   

But please keep the real blame where it belongs - the object of your wet dreams who took a bad situation and exploded it.   

Nobody is arguing, that 33!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nobody is (^$(&*#^$*(%&$ ing defending obama here.  He spends like a drunken sailor.

I'm pissed that we're debating cutting 1.1 trillion over ten years - then the GOP had the power to delievr TEN TIMES THAT - THIS YEAR ALONE.

And they didn't.  So while you're shitting on obama for "only" cutting 110 billion per years, you should be taking ten shits on the GOP for not USING THE POWER WE GAVE THEM and cutting 1.1 trillion per year. 

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2011, 09:00:32 AM »
Do you even follow the news?   Reid is threatening to shut down the govt and blame the GOP if the GOP pushes more cuts than Obama will agree to.

Personally, I wish they would shut the govt down, but that is a different story.   

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2011, 09:05:03 AM »
Come on 240, you're smarter than this. The budget is at record highs and so are the deficits. Obama didn't "cut" 1.1 Trillion from the budget, if he did, the budget would be at 2.62 trillion.

Again, this bad, real bad.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2011, 09:06:54 AM »
Do you even follow the news?   Reid is threatening to shut down the govt and blame the GOP if the GOP pushes more cuts than Obama will agree to.

Personally, I wish they would shut the govt down, but that is a different story.  

I'm fine with them shutting down the govt.  It got shut down in 95, didn't it?  The world didn't end.

Repubs need to go on national TV - I'm talking the top 50 republicans on ONE STAGE (yes, put aside your egos, a-holes) - and they need to read one message:

"The govt is being shut down because Obama and the Dems won't stop spending."

That's IT.  Nothing more.  No fricking tweets about michelle's diet, or infighting about anything else.  One UNIFIED message blaming obama, and let them shut that shit down.


Unless they just want to keep getting their paychecks... in that case, just go limp like they are, and let Obama cakewalk in 2012.  Nice work, cowards.

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2011, 09:08:25 AM »
End of the world?

If bad things would have happened - why did Rand Paul and other tea party candidates PROMISE they wouldn't raise it?  Just preying on people's ignorance?

More campaign lies just to get a job?
yup just like your saviour ;)


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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2011, 09:09:56 AM »
I'm fine with them shutting down the govt.  It got shut down in 95, didn't it?  The world didn't end.

Repubs need to go on national TV - I'm talking the top 50 republicans on ONE STAGE (yes, put aside your egos, a-holes) - and they need to read one message:

"The govt is being shut down because Obama and the Dems won't stop spending."

That's IT.  Nothing more.  No fricking tweets about michelle's diet, or infighting about anything else.  One UNIFIED message blaming obama, and let them shut that shit down.


Unless they just want to keep getting their paychecks... in that case, just go limp like they are, and let Obama cakewalk in 2012.  Nice work, cowards.

I've already said i want the govt shut down if they refuse to cut spending like we are doing.  Its completely immoral what obama is doing.       

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Re: Pre-Criticize Obama's Budget Cuts
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2011, 09:14:13 AM »
yup just like your saviour ;)

And since I have already said obama is spending like a drunken sailor...

the GOP is the banker that keeps on handing him the money to spend ;)

And it appears we're already at the point where you're defending GOP inaction by drawing moral equivalents to Obama's spending.  So you agree with me.  They're just as bad.  Thank you for that.