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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #600 on: December 01, 2011, 03:55:59 PM »
If they want to vote in Islamists its their loss.....they have that right..we gave them the freedom to choose..we have to live with the results...you can blame Obama all you want but he screwed up by not reforming for 30 yeas...same as Ghadafi


LOL.   so thats it?   Thats the best you can muster up in your defense of this failure of maobama setting up a ME Pan Islamic Caliphate? 

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« Reply #601 on: December 01, 2011, 04:09:24 PM »

LOL.   so thats it?   Thats the best you can muster up in your defense of this failure of maobama setting up a ME Pan Islamic Caliphate? 

It's cool, Obama has it under control. When their economy further collapses and they solidify it by further Islamizing and doing things like stoning women to death and attacking Israel, he'll do what he does best and lead from behind.


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« Reply #602 on: December 01, 2011, 04:13:54 PM »

LOL.   so thats it?   Thats the best you can muster up in your defense of this failure of maobama setting up a ME Pan Islamic Caliphate? 

there is nothing to defend....Obama did the right thing.....if the Egyptians choose to fuck it up then its on them and will set back Arab civilization....Again blame Mubarak..not Obama

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« Reply #603 on: December 01, 2011, 04:14:38 PM »
It's cool when Obama meddles but bad when Bush does.

Andreisadouche is arguably the biggest hypocrite on this board. Well, after 240, that is.

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« Reply #604 on: December 01, 2011, 04:15:35 PM »
It's cool when Obama meddles but bad when Bush does.

Andreisadouche is arguably the biggest hypocrite on this board. Well, after 240, that is.

Never said it was bad when Bush meddled.....I supported the Iraq war..but if calling me names makes you feel better then so be it

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #605 on: December 03, 2011, 06:25:39 AM »


http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2011/12/01/obama-loses-egypt


.Obama Loses Egypt
by Keith Koffler on December 1, 2011, 10:19 am




Obama’s Egypt failure is becoming all the more plain, and the cultural and political Islamization of our most important Arab ally may well become a campaign issue before long

The New York Times today reports that not only are Islamists ascendant in Egypt, but their most radical fringe is faring much better in the ongoing elections than expected.

The party formed by the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s mainstream Islamist group, appeared to have taken about 40 percent of the vote, as expected. But a big surprise was the strong showing of ultraconservative Islamists, called Salafis, many of whom see most popular entertainment as sinful and reject women’s participation in voting or public life.

Analysts in the state-run news media said early returns indicated that Salafi groups could take as much as a quarter of the vote, giving the two groups of Islamists combined control of nearly 65 percent of the parliamentary seats.

Below is what I wrote back in February as Obama’s meandering and capricious Egypt policy eventually wound its way toward abandoning Hosni Mubarak, the faithful U.S. ally who had kept the peace with Israel and been a source for stability amid the political ululating that passes for leadership in the rest of the Middle East.

Once Mubarak gets on a plane and heads for the Ritz Carlton Doha, an immense power vacuum is created, the giant sucking sound of which will be animated by every fundamentalist America-hater who can be found in Egypt.

The people of Egypt will never love America. They won’t – it’s shocking for the White House – even love Obama. And once the Muslim Brotherhood is running Egypt, they will suffer, and so will we. And Egyptians will get plenty of violence.

And so it is coming to pass. The Islamists profess faith in democracy, and they will continue to do so as long as democracy shows its faithfulness toward them. Then, once they’ve consolidated their rule and gotten a rein on the military, they will thunder from the minarets about threats to Islam and round up the usual suspects.

Obama, and George W. Bush before him, did little to force the kind of reforms that were needed to slowly unscrew the pressure valve in Egypt and give democratic forces the opportunity to organize. This would have at least provided Egypt a chance to develop its democracy and avoid a sudden Islamist takeover.

Instead, Obama went to Egypt in 2009 and preached revolution:

I do have an unyielding belief that all people yearn for certain things:  the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn’t steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose.  These are not just American ideas; they are human rights.  And that is why we will support them everywhere.

Sure, these are wonderful ideas. But when you go to Egypt and say to the people that their leader’s government is illegitimate, it sends them a signal about hat you will do – or won’t do – if they rise up.

What was needed over the past several years was steadfastness in support of Mubarak along with quiet, sustained and severe pressure – using the billions we send to Egypt as leverage – to force reform. Neither Bush nor Obama did this successfully.

And so now there’s a new Pharaoh in town. And he doesn’t like America, or Israel.

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #606 on: December 03, 2011, 02:42:05 PM »
I'm still confused... Can someone please educate me on what Obama did in Egypt?

I thought we stayed out of there ???

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« Reply #607 on: December 03, 2011, 03:06:08 PM »
I'm still confused... Can someone please educate me on what Obama did in Egypt?

I thought we stayed out of there ???

Obama moved Egypt toward Democracy by helping to rid the country of Hosni Mubarak who was losing control of the country which in effect would have plunged Egypt into a bloody civil war..Obama averted this from happening by nudging Mubarak out...

Obama also through his speech two years ago to the middle east, pushed the region to democratize and ever since then, the Arab spring started which has seen democratization in four Arab countries so far and led to the resignation of Yemen's dictator as well.....

Some idiots on here feel that we should have supported Mubarak no matter what which would have shown that our words about democratization were hollow and would have destroyed Egypt due to civil unrest and eventually civil war.....thats basically the gist of it

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #608 on: December 03, 2011, 03:27:54 PM »
Obama moved Egypt toward Democracy by helping to rid the country of Hosni Mubarak who was losing control of the country which in effect would have plunged Egypt into a bloody civil war..Obama averted this from happening by nudging Mubarak out...

Obama also through his speech two years ago to the middle east, pushed the region to democratize and ever since then, the Arab spring started which has seen democratization in four Arab countries so far and led to the resignation of Yemen's dictator as well.....

Some idiots on here feel that we should have supported Mubarak no matter what which would have shown that our words about democratization were hollow and would have destroyed Egypt due to civil unrest and eventually civil war.....thats basically the gist of it

How did Obama do this?

I seriously don't understand what a speech has to do with anything.

I don't even get how Egypt has anything to do with ANYTHING related to Obama... good or bad.

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« Reply #609 on: December 03, 2011, 03:45:09 PM »
How did Obama do this?

I seriously don't understand what a speech has to do with anything.

I don't even get how Egypt has anything to do with ANYTHING related to Obama... good or bad.

Because basically, the POTUS is like the king of the world...when he talks, people listen......the masses felt Obama was giving them permission to overthrow their leaders....no american president has ever said to the region in public that they must democratize..it caused a stir

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #610 on: December 03, 2011, 10:30:34 PM »
Because basically, the POTUS is like the king of the world...when he talks, people listen......the masses felt Obama was giving them permission to overthrow their leaders....no american president has ever said to the region in public that they must democratize..it caused a stir

We will have to disagree on this... The President isn't the King of anything... Those people did what they wanted to do... They didn't need Obama to say it was "ok".

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #611 on: December 04, 2011, 11:56:48 AM »
We will have to disagree on this... The President isn't the King of anything... Those people did what they wanted to do... They didn't need Obama to say it was "ok".

fair enough...but notice that everything was basically static for a few hundred years with the exception of dictators overthrowing dictators but as soon as Obama made that speech, all of sudden we have four rulers being overthrown and thrown out by their masses.....can't be a just coincidence..Obama made that happen..along with Hillary ..both believe in doing this

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #612 on: December 04, 2011, 11:58:26 AM »
Lol.    Andre why hasn't Obamas speeches transformed this country positively yet though? 

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« Reply #613 on: December 04, 2011, 12:00:09 PM »
Lol.    Andre why hasn't Obamas speeches transformed this country positively yet though? 

because we have guys like you who are working against him

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #614 on: December 04, 2011, 12:01:26 PM »
because we have guys like you who are working against him

So only if I give in to his socialism and thugocracy things would then get better? 

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« Reply #615 on: December 04, 2011, 12:03:49 PM »
So only if I give in to his socialism and thugocracy things would then get better? 

at least things will get done

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« Reply #616 on: December 04, 2011, 12:05:05 PM »
at least things will get done

Like what?   More fast n furious and solyndras?

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #617 on: December 04, 2011, 12:49:45 PM »
Jihad Unleashed: Aboud al-Zumour, Islamic Jihad mastermind of Sadat's murder, Once Jailed,
Atlas Shrugs ^ | 12/4/11 | Pamela Geller
Posted on December 4, 2011 3:48:55 PM EST by Nachum

Thank you, President Obama. We have come full circle. The assassin of a pioneer for peace, Anwar Sadat, is now part of the election process. Instead of being executed for the assassination of Anwar Sadat, Aboud al-Zumour was released after the overthrow of Mubarak, and now insists that he is ready to share power in the wake of the overwhelming Islamic win in the Egyptian elections.

Notice when the West has to acknowledge Islamic political parties and influences, it's "islamist." That is nonsense, a western construct for fantasists. The language of the delusional and the absurd. It's an artificial distinction and an intellecutal waste of time.

Aboud al-Zumour, Islamic Jihad mastermind of Sadat's murder, comes in from the cold after Egypt election The Telegraph (hat tip Daryl)

The young protesters who toppled President Mubarak wanted freedom, but instead they are getting Islamic radicals who want to introduce a strict new moral regime.

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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #618 on: December 05, 2011, 12:46:07 PM »
U.S. Spent $200M on Egypt Election
Friday, 02 Dec 2011 03:09 PM
By Margaret Menge


http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/us-money-egypt-elections/2011/12/02/id/419829




The Obama administration spent some $200 million on democracy building in the lead-up to the elections this week in Egypt.

But with 65 percent of the vote going to Islamist candidates, it doesn’t appear the money was well spent.

Stephen McInerney, executive director of the Project on Middle East Democracy, told Campaigns & Elections magazine that $65 million went to Egypt after the uprising that toppled President Hosni Mubarak and an additional $100 million was earmarked for economic development but also to train Egypt’s nascent political parties.

The money is going through the State Department, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the International Republican Institute and the National Democratic Institute.

A Washington-based consultant who works with USAID and the State Department says the focus of the aid to Egypt has been on helping the smaller political parties that are competing against the better organized Freedom and Justice Party, the Muslim Brotherhood’s party.

This week saw the first round of Parliamentary elections, with voting in nine of the country’s 27 provinces. The staggered elections will continue over the coming months. The Freedom and Justice Party won 40 percent of the vote on Wednesday, with an additional 15 percent going to the Salafis, a group of hard-line Islamists who reject the right of women to vote.

“Poorly organized and internally divided, the liberal parties could not compete with Islamists disciplined by decades as the sole opposition to Mr. Mubarak,” the New York Times reported.




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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #619 on: December 06, 2011, 11:42:11 AM »
'Israel biggest loser from Muslim Brotherhood win in Egypt'
Jerusalem Post ^ | 12/3/11 | KHALED ABU TOAMEH




Israel is the biggest loser from the strong showing of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Egyptian parliamentary election, Hamed Bitawi, a top Hamas representative in the West Bank, said Saturday.

Bitwai's comment came as Hamas expressed relief over the Muslim Brotherhood victory.

The Muslim Brotherhood triumph in Egypt, Tunisia and Morocco elections comes on the eve of preparations for celebrations marking the 24th anniversary of Hamas's founding in the Gaza Strip.

Hamas supporters said that the rise of their political allies to power in the Arab world was "the biggest birthday gift for Hamas" on the anniversary of its establishment.

They said that in addition to Israel, the Palestinian Authority leadership also stands to lose from the results of the elections in the Arab world.

Hamas leaders expressed hope that Egypt's policy toward their movement in particular and the Israeli-Arab conflict in general would change to the better in wake of the Muslim Brotherhood's success.

Bitwai said that Hamas was not surprised by the Muslim Brotherhood gains in the election "especially in light of the suffering of the Muslims over the past decades at the hands of the dictatorial regimes."

Bitwai praised the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood for stating that they were in favor of reconsidering the peace trey between Egypt and Israel.

The Quds Press news agency quoted Bitawi as also hailing the Muslim Brotherhood's stance against the blockade on the Gaza Strip.

"Israel is the biggest loser in these elections," he added.

Earlier this year, Hamas welcomed the downfall of Hosni Mubarak's regime, which it had considered hostile toward the movement.

Hamas leaders had accused Mubarak's regime of participating in the blockade on the Gaza Strip by refusing to reopen the Rafah border crossing.

The new military regime in Cairo has been more friendly toward Hamas. The Rafah terminal has been reopened and Hamas prisoners have been released from Egyptian prisons.

Moreover, Hamas leaders have since been welcome in Egypt as VIP guests - much to the dismay of the PA leadership.

Hamas is hoping that a strong presence of the Muslim Brotherhood in parliament and perhaps in government would bring about a complete change in Egypt's policy toward the Palestinians, said a Gaza-based academic.

"Hamas is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood and any victory for the Muslim Brotherhood is a victory for Hamas and the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip," he told The Jerusalem Post.

Musa Abu Marzouk, deputy chairman of the Hamas "political bureau," was quoted over the weekend as saying that the victory of Islamic groups in the Egyptian parliamentary election would reflect positively on the Palestinians.

"With the victory of the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt will return to its original role of fully supporting the Palestinian cause," Abu Marzouk said. "This serves the interests of Hamas and the Palestinians."

Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman in the Gaza Strip, said that his movement was encouraged by the rise of Muslim Brotherhood supporters to power not only in Egypt, but also in Tunisia and Morocco.

Barhoum said that the results of the elections in these countries would strengthen Hamas in the face of Israeli, American and European efforts to isolate the movement.


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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #620 on: December 12, 2011, 11:25:23 AM »
How Obama Is Mishandling the Violence Wracking the Muslim World
Martin Peretz
December 12, 2011 | 12:00 am



.This is a subject about which we’re not supposed to speak. Or write. Well, I suppose we can allude. But not in detail. So, even though bloodletting is a daily occurrence in the orbit of Islam, discussing it is forbidden. At least among the sensitive, the sensitive left most notably. By which I mean, firstly, folk who think of themselves as universal souls but see others, Americans and Brits, French and Germans, Italians and Dutch, also the bulk of English speakers wherever they are, as retrograde. Patriots, for God’s sake, patriotism being not only a dirty concept but a dirty word. And the house of Israel, of course, which first gave content to the notion of nation, the most reactionary of groups to which men and women relate if they are not blessed to see history as the light of progress for all people. The irony of all this is that the beneficiaries of this earthly and unearthly idealism are the most tribal of humankind, the most contemptuous of the “other,” the most dug-in on their patent of what is true and what is false.

Tim Noah argued here last week that Rick Perry does not really love either the Jews or gays. And maybe he is right, although Perry’s bible, which is the Hebrew Bible, is certainly the source of his affectionate respect for Zion. His phobias toward homosexuals are, well, homophobic, and they are ugly. But nobody has ever been able to dismiss the assertion, as the New Republic editorial of December 8 points out, that Barack Obama is not especially friendly to gays (or to Israel). Nor, for that matter, can it be said that Hillary, for all her human rights passions and how “hip” she pretends to be, is especially stirred by the struggle for equality of homosexuals or realistically moved by the striving of the Jewish state for true safety and peace.

The grim fact is that President Obama is neither a strategist—just forget about him ever being a “seasoned strategist,” he won’t be—nor someone at home in the lessons of history, of which there are many that are germane, at least germane to the despondency of the population that is neither rich nor in power. The powerlessness of the ordinary man and woman may once have stirred him to become a “community organizer” but no one has ever shown that his Chicago community organizing ever achieved much or, for that matter, anything. The Obama in his first autobiography, Dreams from My Father, is a Third Worlder. And why not? But the African third world now gives no one especial pride, not even South Africa with its struggle behind it and its present politics cynical and cruel, its history falsified. Even Mandela is tainted, a very hard man to taint, by his lasting comradeship with Colonel Qaddafi among many other foul comrades.

Obama was dragged into the Libyan people’s struggle against their master by France and Great Britain. But he (and we) have basically absented ourselves, except for lame rhetoric and not always even that, from the broader Arab defiance of the tyrants who rule them. Now, I certainly understand that the world of the Arabs is a difficult one for us to navigate. Moreover, no one can predict what would follow in the wake of an overthrow. Viz: Egypt. Viz: Yemen. Still, there is no excuse for the long enchantment of the Obama administration with Bashar Assad’s rule over Syria, which is most accurately defined as a long reign of terror over its people. There was something actually cold-blooded in Obama’s courtship of Dr. Assad (whom you may have seen recently displaying a sick grin during a complicitous interview with Barbara Walters; why didn’t Walters ask him why he was grinning?).

We have not been especially lucky with the personal traits of some our recent presidents: the psychotic Richard Nixon, his confused successor Gerald Ford, the dark but always smiling Jimmy Carter, the solipsistic Bill Clinton. And now we have the narcissistic and self-loving Barack Obama. This president is touched by nothing. He surely wasn’t stirred by the blood of Syrians that flowed during four decades of Assadian rule, that flowed today and will, alas, flow tomorrow.

Thinking of that cold bloodedness and narcissism, there is a particular memory of nine-year old Barry in Barack’s Dreams. I will never forget it, although some friends, when I point it out to them, shrug it off. So let me try with you:

“Don’t you think he’s a little young?”

Lolo shrugged and looked down at me. “The boy should know where his dinner is coming from. What do you think, Barry?” I looked at my mother, then turned back to face the man holding the chicken. Lolo nodded again, and I watched the man set the bird down, pinning it gently under one knee and pulling its neck out across a narrow gutter. For a moment the bird struggled, beating its wings hard against the ground, a few feathers dancing up with the wind. Then it grew completely still. The man pulled the blade across the bird’s neck in a single smooth motion. Blood shot out in a long, crimson ribbon. The man stood up, holding the bird far away from his body, and suddenly tossed it high into the air. It landed with a thud, then struggled to its feet, its head lolling grotesquely against its side, its legs pumping wildly in a wide, wobbly circle. I watched as the circle grew smaller, the blood trickling down to a gurgle, until finally the bird collapsed, lifeless on the grass.

Lolo rubbed his hand across my head and told me and my mother to go wash up before dinner. The three of us ate quietly under a dim yellow bulb—chicken stew and rice, and then a dessert of red, hairy-skinned fruit so sweet at the center that only a stomachache could make me stop. Later, lying alone beneath a mosquito net canopy, I listened to the crickets chirp under the moonlight and remembered the last twitch of life that I’d witnessed a few hours before. I could barely believe my good fortune.

This is a picture of an unemotional, remote, and icy boy. And so he is as man-president.

In the last days alone, Islam and Arab lands have experienced bloodletting in such numbers that it must have touched someone. But, no. These horrendous death-happenings occur so often that they hardly make the newspapers and certainly not television news. Maybe some of you will recognize the word “Kishinev” as the name of a town in Bessarabia—no Arabs lived in the province—where pogroms against its Jews were a common event. But one in particular took place on April 6-7, 1903 (Easter time) and 47 (or 49) Jews were killed, something like 500 injured (many seriously), and 2,000 families left homeless. This stimulated a stir of enormous consequence. A protest letter transferred by President Theodore Roosevelt to the czar was turned back. There were what the French call manifestations all over Europe. The first modern Hebrew poet, H.N. Bialik, memorialized the event in a poem called “Be-Ir ha-Haregah” (“The City of Slaughter”). And Kishinev is known, by Jews at least, as the site of a notable mass murder.

Do you know the name of this town: Mazar-e-Sharif? It is one of the places in Afghanistan where four days ago a Pakistani Sunni terrorist group, likely with the cooperation of the local Taliban, heaped death on worshippers at prayer in three Shia mosques. At reporting time, no less than 68 were dead and hundreds wounded. By now, there are no doubt more numbers to add to what we used to call in Vietnam the “death count.” The Times reports that “Targeted strikes by Sunnis against the minority Shiites are alien to Afghanistan.” Well, here’s a new feature to the routine mass murder among the Muslim faithful. But, like the other ones, there were no protests. These mass murders will vanish not into memory but from memory.

Iraq, from which we will depart before the year is up, has seen continuous killing of the innocent. Last week, at least 32 Shia pilgrims were killed in towns south of Baghdad.

And here’s an irony. The Voice of Russia reports that Iraq has been called in by the Arab League to mediate the civil war in Syria. But, of course, what with more than 4,000 dead (the Israelis think it is more like 5,000), they’re not yet calling it a civil war or even a simple war. Nonetheless, the Times reported that no less than 24 protestors and perhaps as many as 38 were shot to death. Here’s an excuse: If you saw Walters the other night, you would know that Assad said that the troops who killed Syrian civilians were not his troops but government troops. And hearing is believing. She never hinted otherwise.

The Syrians trust the Iraqi Shia who govern in Baghdad. After years of American help and American blood, the Baghdad regime still thinks of the Damascus regime as allies, Shia all. (You don’t have to rely on the Voice of Russia. There are other sources for these developments.)

How will the Syrian bloodletting end? I’ve been hinting here and there that Erdogan’s Turkey will invade its southern neighbor, with which it shares a 560 mile border. The Turks believe that at least Syria’s northern sectors are rightfully theirs. This will not be good for the Kurds in Syria, although they had reason to hope that the end of the good doctor’s rule would mean a big relief for them. What a successful Turkish intervention would mean is hell for the Kurds and a swath of Sunni rule from Turkey through Syria to Jordan to Saudi Arabia to Egypt and the Maghreb beyond. A Sunni swath with increasing government power in the hands of the Salafis and the Muslim Brotherhood. And please don’t forget who rules in Gaza. This is a map with which Barack Obama could very well live. Very well, indeed. Except it won’t be so gentle and civilized as he made out in Cairo almost three years ago and at his annual Ramadan fest in the White House. One more to go. Or five.

Martin Peretz is editor-in-chief emeritus of The New Republic.

 
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Re: Boehner: Obama a citizen and handled Egypt correctly...3333 commits suicide!
« Reply #621 on: December 13, 2011, 02:10:07 PM »
Egypt’s PM says economy ‘worse than anyone can imagine’
yalibnan.com ^ | 12-11-11 | Not Listed



Egypt’s new interim prime minister broke into tears in front of journalists on Sunday as he spoke about the state of the country’s economy, saying it was “worse than anyone imagines.”

Egypt’s transition in the months since Hosni Mubarak’s ouster has been rocky, with protests against the military council leading the process, an increase in crime and the battering of the tourism industry that was once a pillar of the economy.

Kamal el-Ganzouri, the third temporary prime minister since Mubarak’s ouster in February, said his priorities were the restoration of security and economic progress.

At one point in his news conference, el-Ganzouri became teary eyed as he recalled seeing “an Egyptian man on TV saying I want security, not bread.”

He said austerity measures were needed to start reducing the deficit but that no new taxes will be imposed. He did not elaborate on exact steps.

El-Ganzouri said his government will not consider loans from the International Monetary Fund until the outlook of the Egyptian budget becomes clear. In the summer, the IMF offered a $3 billion loan, but Egyptian officials turned it down.

The IMF is projecting Egypt’s economic growth to be just 1.2 per cent this year, compared with about 5 per cent in 2010.

“Solidarity is needed to face the economic crisis and security problem for citizens to be pleased with the revolution,” he said.

Urban consumer inflation in Egypt rose to an annual 9.1 per cent in November from 7.1 per cent in October. The unemployment rate in the third quarter climbed to 12 per cent from just under 9 per cent a year earlier. Net international reserves dropped by roughly 40 per cent by the end of October, compared with the end of 2010.

The military council, which stepped in to rule when Mubarak was pushed out, appointed el-Ganzouri and his government at the end of November after a violent crackdown on protesters demanding an end to military rule.

In response to the protests, the previous prime minister, Essam Sharaf, resigned and the head of the military council pledged to transfer power to a civilian administration by July 2012. The council also transferred wide powers to el-Ganzouri’s government in an attempt to show it had independence and that the military council would leave power — though gradually.

El-Ganzouri blamed the last decade of Mubarak’s 30-year rule and the corruption that took place then for the ballooning deficit.

El-Ganzouri is himself a Mubarak-era prime minister who served from 1996 to 1999 but he has not been tainted by corruption.

Still, protesters who dislike him for his part in the old regime have been camped in front of el-Ganzouri’s office in downtown Cairo, forcing him to hold meetings at the Ministry of Planning in a Cairo suburb.



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Kerry calls for US funding to Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood
Israel Matzav ^ | 12/15/11 | Carl in Jerusalem
Posted on December 15, 2011 11:20:45 PM EST by Nachum

Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman John Kerry (D-Ma) is in Egypt where he has been sucking up to the Muslim Brotherhood. With the US already $15 trillion in debt, Kerry wants the International Monetary Fund - for which the US provides the largest piece of the budget - to finance the Muslim Brotherhood's takeover of Egypt.

In addition to praising the Brotherhood’s election as a model of transparency and integrity, Sen. Kerry also called for an infusion of cash from the International Monetary Fund to undergird Egypt’s new Islamist government.

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