Author Topic: D. Ratigan: "Liberals & Left Wing don't hold Obama accountable b/c he is black"  (Read 10349 times)

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Like who? 

no need to point fingers.  we all know which ones were defending assange - then suddenly changed their tune once it was revealed just how much his BS was putting our people at risk.

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Manning and assange are two different cases. 

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Manning and assange are two different cases. 

I'm betting you'll be retracting that shortly.

So the traitor sucks - but the person who publicizes everything that puts our men at risk - he's cool?


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LIBERAL DOUBLE STANDARDS AT WORK

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The Narrative from the Left: Bush Bad, Obama Good
March 8, 2011



Bush military tribunals = Bad
Obama military tribunals = Good

Bush deficits = Bad
Obama bigger deficits = Good

Bush 4.8% unemployment = Bad
Obama 9.4% unemployment = Good

Bush wiretapping program = Bad
Obama wiretapping program = Good

Bush innocents killed in Afghanistan = Bad
Obama innocents killed in Afghanistan = Good

Bush chiding China President over human rights = Bad
Obama silent on Chinese human rights = Good

Bush accepting big money from special interests = Bad
Obama accepting bigger money from special interests = Good

Bush 4 lobbyists in administration = Bad
Obama 12 lobbyists in administration = Good

Bush abusing alcohol = Bad
Obama snorting cocaine & smoking weed = Good

Bush suppressed college transcripts = Bad
Obama suppressed college transcripts = Good

Bush vacations to home in Texas = Bad
Obama vacations at lavish resorts abroad = Good

Bush troop surge = Bad
Obama troop surge = Good

Bush insulting US enemies = Bad
Obama insulting US allies = Good

Bush called racist in error = Bad
Obama screaming racism twice in error = Good

Bush ignores Katrina victims = Bad
Obama ignores TN flood and Oil disaster victims = Good

Bush doesn't fail on oil rig inspections = Bad
Obama fails on oil rig inspections = Good

Bush beholden to Wall Street = Bad
Obama beholden to Wall Street = Good

Bush Gen. "Betray-us" = Bad
Obama Gen. Petraeus = Good


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LIBERAL DOUBLE STANDARDS AT WORK

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The Narrative from the Left: Bush Bad, Obama Good
March 8, 2011



Bush military tribunals = Bad (poor folks won't be able to get to work or transport their kids)
Obama military tribunals = Good (signs of economic growth/green jobs.....'now I can hock these silly electric card nobody will buy').

Bush deficits = Bad
Obama bigger deficits = Good

Bush 4.8% unemployment = Bad
Obama 9.4% unemployment = Good

Bush wiretapping program = Bad
Obama wiretapping program = Good

Bush innocents killed in Afghanistan = Bad
Obama innocents killed in Afghanistan = Good

Bush chiding China President over human rights = Bad
Obama silent on Chinese human rights = Good

Bush accepting big money from special interests = Bad
Obama accepting bigger money from special interests = Good

Bush 4 lobbyists in administration = Bad
Obama 12 lobbyists in administration = Good

Bush abusing alcohol = Bad
Obama snorting cocaine & smoking weed = Good

Bush suppressed college transcripts = Bad
Obama suppressed college transcripts = Good

Bush vacations to home in Texas = Bad
Obama vacations at lavish resorts abroad = Good

Bush troop surge = Bad
Obama troop surge = Good

Bush insulting US enemies = Bad
Obama insulting US allies = Good

Bush called racist in error = Bad
Obama screaming racism twice in error = Good

Bush ignores Katrina victims = Bad
Obama ignores TN flood and Oil disaster victims = Good

Bush doesn't fail on oil rig inspections = Bad
Obama fails on oil rig inspections = Good

Bush beholden to Wall Street = Bad
Obama beholden to Wall Street = Good

Bush Gen. "Betray-us" = Bad
Obama Gen. Petraeus = Good



You miss one:

High gas prices under Bush - Bad
High gas prices under Obama - Good

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lol.  I have been arguing with these dopes for MONTHS abou this!

We need to keep adding to this list.

Shit - We should do an Obama one all by himself:


Obama 2008   - Individual Mandate Bad
Obama 2012  -  Individual Mandate Good

Obama 2008 - Raising debt limit bad
Obama 2012 - Raising debt limit good

obama 2008 - Bill Tauzin Bad
Obama 2012 - Bill Tauzin good. 

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watch the video again and tell me exactly what he says at 44 thru 46 seconds

What does he say from 46 seconds onward?

"because the political machine has been immobilized because it is a liberal black democratic president who is in charge the left, by my opinion, doesn't want to criticize. Eventhough, he is exhibiting behavior, that were it to be a right wing or a WHITE MAN, the left would be holding vigils..."

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What does he say from 46 seconds onward?

"because the political machine has been inmobolized because it is a liberal black democratic president who is in charge the left, by my opinion, doesn't want to criticize. Eventhough, he is exhibiting behavior, that were it to be a right wing or a WHITE MAN, the left would be holding vigils..."



LMAO.   

Can't wait for 240 and Straw's spin on that.   

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What does he say from 46 seconds onward?

"because the political machine has been immobilized because it is a liberal black democratic president who is in charge the left, by my opinion, doesn't want to criticize. Eventhough, he is exhibiting behavior, that were it to be a right wing OLDER WHITE MAN, the left would be holding vigils..."

Correction made.

He is still making the racial distinction.

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What does he say from 46 seconds onward?

"because the political machine has been immobilized because it is a liberal black democratic president who is in charge the left, by my opinion, doesn't want to criticize. Eventhough, he is exhibiting behavior, that were it to be a right wing or a WHITE MAN, the left would be holding vigils..."

First he says right wing (aka Republican) and then white and like I said I page one I don't agree with Rattigan as there had already been quite a bit of criticism of the treatment of Manning and even on Rattigans own network.

Second - Democrats and people on the left have been critical of Obama on many issues.  Remember when he "caved" on the Bush tax cuts and the Dems were highly critical (supposedly there were meetings in the House where Reps supposedly were saying things like "fuck Obama".   I guess his race wasn't an issue then.
How about all the criticism he received from Dems during the health care process last summer for not supporting single payer and compromising on many other points.   Again, if Obama's race were an issue then why didn't it prevent Dems from criticizing him them

Rattigan's opinion is just wrong (IMO)

Here's a clue for you.  Just because someone on TV says something doesn't mean that its true

Try to remember that for future reference


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Straw - get bck to me when we see a daily 24/7 assault by, NYT, WaPO, LAT, NYDN, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, etc. 

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LIBERAL DOUBLE STANDARDS AT WORK

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The Narrative from the Left: Bush Bad, Obama Good
March 8, 2011



Bush military tribunals = Bad
Obama military tribunals = Good

Bush deficits = Bad
Obama bigger deficits = Good

Bush 4.8% unemployment = Bad
Obama 9.4% unemployment = Good

Bush wiretapping program = Bad
Obama wiretapping program = Good

Bush innocents killed in Afghanistan = Bad
Obama innocents killed in Afghanistan = Good

Bush chiding China President over human rights = Bad
Obama silent on Chinese human rights = Good

Bush accepting big money from special interests = Bad
Obama accepting bigger money from special interests = Good

Bush 4 lobbyists in administration = Bad
Obama 12 lobbyists in administration = Good

Bush abusing alcohol = Bad
Obama snorting cocaine & smoking weed = Good

Bush suppressed college transcripts = Bad
Obama suppressed college transcripts = Good

Bush vacations to home in Texas = Bad
Obama vacations at lavish resorts abroad = Good

Bush troop surge = Bad
Obama troop surge = Good

Bush insulting US enemies = Bad
Obama insulting US allies = Good

Bush called racist in error = Bad
Obama screaming racism twice in error = Good

Bush ignores Katrina victims = Bad
Obama ignores TN flood and Oil disaster victims = Good

Bush doesn't fail on oil rig inspections = Bad
Obama fails on oil rig inspections = Good

Bush beholden to Wall Street = Bad
Obama beholden to Wall Street = Good

Bush Gen. "Betray-us" = Bad
Obama Gen. Petraeus = Good



what idiot compiled this list

On virtually everyone of this issues you can find criticism of Obama from the left

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First he says right wing (aka Republican) and then white and like I said I page one I don't agree with Rattigan as there had already been quite a bit of criticism of the treatment of Manning and even on Rattigans own network.

Second - Democrats and people on the left have been critical of Obama on many issues.  Remember when he "caved" on the Bush tax cuts and the Dems were highly critical (supposedly there were meetings in the House where Reps supposedly were saying things like "fuck Obama".   I guess his race wasn't an issue then.
How about all the criticism he received from Dems during the health care process last summer for not supporting single payer and compromising on many other points.   Again, if Obama's race were an issue then why didn't it prevent Dems from criticizing him them

Rattigan's opinion is just wrong (IMO)

Here's a clue for you.  Just because someone on TV says something doesn't mean that its true

Try to remember that for future reference



Shut up, fool. My comment is only about what this man is stating.

In that clip he is clearly talking about race. Just because you put a lot of words together in an attempt to support your delusional thinkings doesn't make you right.

The clip is very clear what he is talking about. If you wish to continue to persist in your stupidity be my guest.

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Where other than DU or Kos ?  ?

And even at those sites - you have a ton of kneepadding. 

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Straw - get bck to me when we see a daily 24/7 assault by, NYT, WaPO, LAT, NYDN, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, etc. 

why would any of the networks (even Faux News) do that

the only one who would do something like are you and other far right wing, American haters like you

Ron should start an board just for you so that you can stop polluting this one on a daily basis

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why would any of the networks (even Faux News) do that

the only one who would do something like are you and other far right wing, American haters like you

Ron should start an board just for you so that you can stop polluting this one on a daily basis

The media was against Bush 24/7 on all fronts and have given obama a pass for things it previously trashed Bush over.   

 

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Shut up, fool. My comment is only about what this man is stating.

In that clip he is clearly talking about race. Just because you put a lot of words together in an attempt to support your delusional thinkings doesn't make you right.

The clip is very clear what he is talking about. If you wish to continue to persist in your stupidity be my guest.

LoL - classic getbig idiot

if you don't want me to respond then don't quote me and then ask me a question

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The media was against Bush 24/7 on all fronts and have given obama a pass for things it previously trashed Bush over.   

the media was not all over Bush 24/7 on "all fronts" but I'm sure you believe it to be true

Rattigans statement (his opinion) is demonstrably false and you, as usual, key in on only one thing he said which was about Obama's race and ignored everything else


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So is he saying he gets a pass because he is a "liberal"?

Would that make it any better?   

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So is he saying he gets a pass because he is a "liberal"?

Would that make it any better?   

he's wrong in everything he is saying in regards to the treatment of Manning

there had been criticism of how Manning is being treated

I've given you just a few examples of very vocal criticism of Obama by people in his own party so why is his race all of a sudden a reason why Dems or people on the left haven't been critical of the treatment of Manning (again - a claim that is clearly not true to begin with)

the entire premise is false


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he's wrong in everything he is saying in regards to the treatment of Manning

there had been criticism of how Manning is being treated

I've given you just a few examples of very vocal criticism of Obama by people in his own party so why is his race all of a sudden a reason why Dems or people on the left haven't been critical of the treatment of Manning (again - a claim that is clearly not true to begin with)

the entire premise is false



Criticism where straw?   

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Criticism where straw?   

go back to the first page

I already gave you examples

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go back to the first page

I already gave you examples

Straw- even though i probably dsagree with you 99% of issues, I consider you at least engaged, informed, and up to date on a lot of this stuff. 

The average moron does not scour the web and still gets news from major outlets. 

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Straw- even though i probably dsagree with you 99% of issues, I consider you at least engaged, informed, and up to date on a lot of this stuff. 

The average moron does not scour the web and still gets news from major outlets. 

I gave you a clip from MSNBC

the very same place where you got the clip on which you started this thread

my clip (on Rattigans own network) shows a Democratic US Congressmen criticizing the Obama administrations treatment of Manning



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I gave you a clip from MSNBC

the very same place where you got the clip on which you started this thread

my clip (on Rattigans own network) shows a Democratic US Congressmen criticizing the Obama administrations treatment of Manning




MSNBC has a niche audience.  i'm talking about the major outlets that the average dolt still listens to.