Author Topic: Donald J. Trump Birth Certificate released. (Read 17554 times)

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #50 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:37:06 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on March 28, 2011, 02:30:10 PM

YouTube spamming activate.....form of Birther.

The videos I am showing show how utterly bullshit the COLB is. If you want to stay in the dark on this issue, thats your perogative.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #51 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:38:00 PM »

Quote from: tu_holmes on March 28, 2011, 02:32:10 PM

Where is the Jamaica Hospital? Jamaica?

If so, then Trump can't be president... He wasn't born in the US. Right?

There is a Jamaica, NY... Would Trump have been born there?

Jamaica is n Queens. I pass it every time I go JFK AP.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #52 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:39:41 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 28, 2011, 02:32:35 PM

lol.

33 if you had to pick one clip that best summarizes this CT, which one would it be?

Which part? the NBC part, the COLB forgery?, the fake SS numbers Obama uses?, which part?

MB · « **Reply #53 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:43:20 PM »

The ridiculous thing is that Obama could put an end to all this by just showing his BC. He's bringing this on himself by letting it go. This only adds to the speculation that he's hiding something.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #54 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:45:24 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 28, 2011, 02:39:41 PM

Which part? the NBC part, the COLB forgery?, the fake SS numbers Obama uses?, which part?

Any clip that summarizes all of it. I'm willing to watch or listen to one, but you posted several.

Straw Man · « **Reply #55 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:45:48 PM »

Quote from: MB on March 28, 2011, 02:43:20 PM

The ridiculous thing is that Obama could put an end to all this by just showing his BC. He's bringing this on himself by letting it go. This only adds to the speculation that he's hiding something.

he has

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #56 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:50:54 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 28, 2011, 02:45:24 PM

Any clip that summarizes all of it. I'm willing to watch or listen to one, but you posted several.

Poblem is that the whole thing is nw really blowng up and not limited to only the BC - but i'll deal with the colb first. its a forgery.

OzmO · « **Reply #57 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:52:51 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 28, 2011, 02:37:06 PM

The videos I am showing show how utterly bullshit the COLB is. If you want to stay in the dark on this issue, thats your perogative.

Lol. You sound like such a CT'er with those arguments.

MB · « **Reply #58 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:53:34 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on March 28, 2011, 02:45:48 PM

he has

You mean the COLB? It looks so forged that showing it did him more harm than good. Surely he has another BC?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #59 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:55:10 PM »

Quote from: OzmO on March 28, 2011, 02:52:51 PM

Lol. You sound like such a CT'er with those arguments.

Sorry ozmo - the people attacking the birthers on this really dont realize how bullshit the whole bama narrative is in this whole thing.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #60 on:** March 28, 2011, 02:57:46 PM »

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #61 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:00:26 PM »

Ahhhh good old Hawaii.

OzmO · « **Reply #62 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:03:36 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 28, 2011, 02:55:10 PM

Sorry ozmo - the people attacking the birthers on this really dont realize how bullshit the whole bama narrative is in this whole thing.

Another typical CT argument.

Is there concrete proof Obama was not born in the USA? Not sketchy conjecture or rhetoric in the form spam YouTube vids or opinion pieces? Concrete proof?

Because the boys at fox news Would be running wild with it.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #63 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:07:30 PM »

Ozmo its impossible to pove this since Obama has sealed everything nd have never said what hospital, which doc, who what whwere qwhen or why, no long form BC, everything sealed, etc.

OzmO · « **Reply #64 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:11:15 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 28, 2011, 03:07:30 PM

Ozmo its impossible to pove this since Obama has sealed everything nd have never said what hospital, which doc, who what whwere qwhen or why, no long form BC, everything sealed, etc.

So then none of your YouTube vids, articles, or arguments mean anything.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #65 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:12:32 PM »

? ? ?

You don't think Obama putting what is obviously a fraudulent doc is relevant?

________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ________-

1, Obama’s original vault copy of a long form birth certificate, if one exists. Not released.

2, Obama’s certificate of live birth (short form-COLB), a proven forgery released.

3, In 1961 no computers then to photo-shop or produce Obama’s fraudulent COLB document, in fact the font (type) is computer created, no typewriter had that capability in 1961, fact.

4, This is Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate dated Aug. 4, 1961= (in question) http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

5, Dunham-Obama marriage license. Not released.

6, Dunham-Soetoro marriage license. Not released.

7, Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama adoption records. Not released.

8, Obama’s aka Soetoro’s Besuki School application obtained. (proven) http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13056.htm

9, Obama’s aka Soetoro’s Punahou School records. Not released.

10, Selective Service Registration – a proven forgery released and a criminal act. (forgery) http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/004431print.html.

11, Obama’s Occidental College records. Not released.

12, Obama’s passport from Indonesia, he had to have one to attend school in Indonesia. Not released.

13, Obama’s U.S. Passport, if one exists. Not released.

14, Obama entered Pakistan on what countries passport. Not released.

15, Obama’s Columbia University records, a foreign exchange student? Not released.

16, Obama’s Columbia University thesis. Not released.

17, Not one name of any student who knows Obama attendant Columbia released or known.

18, Obama’s Harvard Law School records, a foreign exchange student? Not released.

19, Obama’s Harvard Law Review articles, none released.

20, Obama’s Baptism certificate, if one exists? None released.

21, Obama’s Medical records, not released (a one-page statement Obama is healthy).

22, Obama’s Illinois State Senate records. Not released.

23, Obama’s Illinois State Senate schedule. Not released (alleged to have been lost).

24, Obama’s Law practices client list and billing records. Not released.

26, Obama’s University of Chicago scholarly articles, none released or exist?

27, The reason Obama lost his license to practice law in Illinois. Not released.

28, Obama’s campaign donor analysis. Not released.

29, Obama’s list of campaign workers who are lobbyists. Not released.

30, Obama’s list of countries he visited outside the United States before 2008. Not released.

31, Obama never repatriated to the U.S. from his Indonesia citizenship, if documented. Not released.

32, The U.S. Constitution states you CAN NOT be president if you change your U.S. citizenship and are repatriated and you have to be just to become a U.S. citizen again.

33, On January 21, 2009, his first day in office, Barack Obama implemented and signed into law Executive Order 13489, denying any release of anything about him.

blacken700 · « **Reply #66 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:13:32 PM »

the birthers need no prove, the voice in their head tells them so

blacken700 · « **Reply #67 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:18:50 PM »

the best repub minds [if there is such a thing] had two years to find this shit out on obama and they did not find a thing. now all the crazies are spewing what ever shit pops in their head. you just have to laugh

OzmO · « **Reply #68 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:22:29 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 28, 2011, 03:12:32 PM

? ? ?

You don't think Obama putting what is obviously a fraudulent doc is relevant?

________________________ ________________________ ________________________ ________-

1, Obama’s original vault copy of a long form birth certificate, if one exists. Not released.

2, Obama’s certificate of live birth (short form-COLB), a proven forgery released.

3, In 1961 no computers then to photo-shop or produce Obama’s fraudulent COLB document, in fact the font (type) is computer created, no typewriter had that capability in 1961, fact.

4, This is Obama’s Kenyan Birth Certificate dated Aug. 4, 1961= (in question) http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764

5, Dunham-Obama marriage license. Not released.

6, Dunham-Soetoro marriage license. Not released.

7, Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama adoption records. Not released.

8, Obama’s aka Soetoro’s Besuki School application obtained. (proven) http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13056.htm

9, Obama’s aka Soetoro’s Punahou School records. Not released.

10, Selective Service Registration – a proven forgery released and a criminal act. (forgery) http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/004431print.html.

11, Obama’s Occidental College records. Not released.

12, Obama’s passport from Indonesia, he had to have one to attend school in Indonesia. Not released.

13, Obama’s U.S. Passport, if one exists. Not released.

14, Obama entered Pakistan on what countries passport. Not released.

15, Obama’s Columbia University records, a foreign exchange student? Not released.

16, Obama’s Columbia University thesis. Not released.

17, Not one name of any student who knows Obama attendant Columbia released or known.

18, Obama’s Harvard Law School records, a foreign exchange student? Not released.

19, Obama’s Harvard Law Review articles, none released.

20, Obama’s Baptism certificate, if one exists? None released.

21, Obama’s Medical records, not released (a one-page statement Obama is healthy).

22, Obama’s Illinois State Senate records. Not released.

23, Obama’s Illinois State Senate schedule. Not released (alleged to have been lost).

24, Obama’s Law practices client list and billing records. Not released.

26, Obama’s University of Chicago scholarly articles, none released or exist?

27, The reason Obama lost his license to practice law in Illinois. Not released.

28, Obama’s campaign donor analysis. Not released.

29, Obama’s list of campaign workers who are lobbyists. Not released.

30, Obama’s list of countries he visited outside the United States before 2008. Not released.

31, Obama never repatriated to the U.S. from his Indonesia citizenship, if documented. Not released.

32, The U.S. Constitution states you CAN NOT be president if you change your U.S. citizenship and are repatriated and you have to be just to become a U.S. citizen again.

33, On January 21, 2009, his first day in office, Barack Obama implemented and signed into law Executive Order 13489, denying any release of anything about him.

lol, sounds just like the 9/11 CT argument about the pentagon vids not being released. lol

OzmO · « **Reply #69 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:23:25 PM »

I haven't delved too deep into the Birther thing, but it doesn't sound they have all that much.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #70 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:51:15 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 28, 2011, 02:50:54 PM

Poblem is that the whole thing is nw really blowng up and not limited to only the BC - but i'll deal with the colb first. its a forgery.

Thanks. I watched all of them. The first one raises some interesting questions about his time in Indonesia. Hard to verify what they claim, however, when the document is in a foreign language.

The problem I have with these clips is they are kids who sound like those Loose Changes dolts. They avoided the sinister music and theater for the most part, but it sounds like smoke in mirrors by someone with too much time on their hands.

I also read this from snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

Governor Lingle had the health director review the birth records and they're satisfied he was born in Hawaii. I do agree he should just release the BC or admit it doesn't exist, but I don't really see a smoking gun here.

Before you get too invested in this, keep in mind he might just be playing people by letting them run down a rabbit trail.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #71 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:54:33 PM »

What gets me is and are all the records not released pertaining to his name changes, adoption, and passports.

Some seriously bizarre stuff there.

OzmO · « **Reply #72 on:** March 28, 2011, 03:57:51 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 28, 2011, 03:54:33 PM

What gets me is and are all the records not released pertaining to his name changes, adoption, and passports.

Some seriously bizarre stuff there.

That's about exactly it, you have some questionable issues that in my mind are credible for examination but not near determining/provable of what you accuse. That....combined with every Bama hater in the nation including yourself unable to come up with anything of substance.

Hence, you got nothing.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #73 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:02:33 PM »

If obama refuses to release anything whatsoever it is what it is.

Same as oj. Just cause oj was good at covering up his crime does not stop us from making logical and likely suppositions as to what occured.

Sorry - people applying for a job at starbucks go through more scrutiny than bama had to for potus and its bizarre that he refuses to divulge anything whatever about his past.

He and his cult should not be at all surprised when he is accused by others of having something to hide.

OzmO · « **Reply #74 on:** March 28, 2011, 04:07:12 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on March 28, 2011, 04:02:33 PM

If obama refuses to release anything whatsoever it is what it is.

Same as oj. Just cause oj was good at covering up his crime does not stop us from making logical and likely suppositions as to what occured.

Sorry - people applying for a job at starbucks go through more scrutiny than bama had to for potus and its bizarre that he refuses to divulge anything whatever about his past.

He and his cult should not be at all surprised when he is accused by others of having something to hide.

Have you considered other possible reasons for his refusal to release records?