Lucid Dreaming - can you pull that off?

[lovemonkey]

I get this all the time...a huge, monstrous black wolf with flame red eyes is always sitting at the foot of my bed staring at me when im able to snap myself out of  sleep paralysis ..i get it a LOT...at least every three months.

It sounds trippy and weird, but sometimes I feel like something is trying to posses me, and it's getting stronger and closer as time goes by.

 I know...horseshit..LOL  but when you finally snap out of a horrible nightmare and you can't wake up...crazy shit goes through your head  

This is actually very common and a lot of people/scientists believe that this is where most demon myths stem from and in recent times also stories of alien abductions. The same phenomena has been described for hundreds of years... a beast/creature of smaller stature standing by your bed or sitting on you and a lot people also get the sensation of levitating and slowly drifting through their bedroom walls.

Since the early fifties, the beasts in people's sleep paralysis started taking shape of a small gray being with big bug-like eyes.. could it be a coincidence that this is about the exact time the exact same kind of alien started making its appearance in comics and science fiction? hmmm  

[The Showstoppa]

I`ve been debating whether I should post this or not....firstly,I am not a homosexual but when I had that sleep paralysis,it felt as though an invisible man was holding me down while laying on top of me......a big heavy man at that.

Couldn't read any further, I respect you too much....





 

[Raymondo]

I get this all the time...a huge, monstrous black wolf with flame red eyes is always sitting at the foot of my bed staring at me when im able to snap myself out of  sleep paralysis ..i get it a LOT...at least every three months.

It sounds trippy and weird, but sometimes I feel like something is trying to posses me, and it's getting stronger and closer as time goes by.

 I know...horseshit..LOL  but when you finally snap out of a horrible nightmare and you can't wake up...crazy shit goes through your head 

It's not horseshit.. not at all. Actually it's serious and there's a bit of a psychological explanation there.

Something tells me you know what it is, too.

[wes]

Couldn't read any further, I respect you too much....





 

I feel ashamed for posting that...wtf was I thinking ?  LOL

[wes]

I think this is the little fucker who tried to buttfuck me!  LOL 

[Swlabr]

[Palpatine Q]

It's not horseshit.. not at all. Actually it's serious and there's a bit of a psychological explanation there.

Something tells me you know what it is, too.

Please elaborate

[Raymondo]

I think this is the little fucker who tried to buttfuck me!  LOL 

LOL

wes, do you look like that when you sleep?

[wes]

LOL

wes, do you look like that when you sleep?

NO 

[Raymondo]

Please elaborate

It's not something you don't already know, I can tell by the way you've written about it. Your mind chose a certain symbol (a "big, dark, monstrous" wolf) and you've described your response to it in very exact terms (the feeling that it might possess you and it grows stronger and closer as time passes). In psychology, this is called a "totem" and it symbolises something of personal meaning to you.

Different schools give different interpretations.

A psychoanalyst would start talking about your mummy and daddy (by which they mean an authority figure) and that as you age, you turn more like them which is a cause for your dreams, as a certain part of you resists this process due to unresolved conflicts towards those authority figures.

A cognitive-behaviourist would interpret your totem as a symbol for a certain type of behaviour towards others which you want to but feel that you cannot adequately control and it is the guilt over that which is causing your dreams.

A narrative therapist would tell you that you're thinking your life and environment are taking certain directions that scare you and you feel that you cannot control them easily.

[Jussup]

I rarely post, but here I can’t help. You guys open a thread about lucid dreaming and in the very same thread talk about dream analysis and interpretation. Lucid Dreaming exists to leave intellectual interpretation behind, it is about direct experience (and hence one of the most powerful psychotherapies).
If you would like to know what the creature at your bed means, go fucking ask it. Face your fears, look into its eyes, engage in conversation, touch it, whatever and you will see it transform into what part of yourself it really represents.

Overcoming fear is really important, since the dreaming brain is set up for these emotions supposedly due to overly active amygdala.
So it is good to be prepared and have a mental technique  to deal with the anxiety.
 I use  Frank Herbert’s litany against fear:
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

[wes]

It's not something you don't already know, I can tell by the way you've written about it. Your mind chose a certain symbol (a "big, dark, monstrous" wolf) and you've described your response to it in very exact terms (the feeling that it might possess you and it grows stronger and closer as time passes). In psychology, this is called a "totem" and it symbolises something of personal meaning to you.

Different schools give different interpretations.

A psychoanalyst would start talking about your mummy and daddy (by which they mean an authority figure) and that as you age, you turn more like them which is a cause for your dreams, as a certain part of you resists this process due to unresolved conflicts towards those authority figures.

A cognitive-behaviourist would interpret your totem as a symbol for a certain type of behaviour towards others which you want to but feel that you cannot adequately control and it is the guilt over that which is causing your dreams.

A narrative therapist would tell you that you're thinking your life and environment are taking certain directions that scare you and you feel that you cannot control them easily.

Can I set up an appointment with you next week please....my shrink is out of town

[wes]

I rarely post, but here I can’t help. You guys open a thread about lucid dreaming and in the very same thread talk about dream analysis and interpretation. Lucid Dreaming exists to leave intellectual interpretation behind, it is about direct experience (and hence one of the most powerful psychotherapies).
If you would like to know what the creature at your bed means, go fucking ask it. Face your fears, look into its eyes, engage in conversation, touch it, whatever and you will see it transform into what part of yourself it really represents.

Overcoming fear is really important, since the dreaming brain is set up for these emotions supposedly due to overly active amygdala.
So it is good to be prepared and have a mental technique  to deal with the anxiety.
 I use  Frank Herbert’s litany against fear:
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

Like I said earlier....this thread is heavy.......wish I still smoked herb. 

[Raymondo]

I rarely post, but here I can’t help. You guys open a thread about lucid dreaming and in the very same thread talk about dream analysis and interpretation. Lucid Dreaming exists to leave intellectual interpretation behind, it is about direct experience (and hence one of the most powerful psychotherapies).
If you would like to know what the creature at your bed means, go fucking ask it. Face your fears, look into its eyes, engage in conversation, touch it, whatever and you will see it transform into what part of yourself it really represents.

Overcoming fear is really important, since the dreaming brain is set up for these emotions supposedly due to overly active amygdala.
So it is good to be prepared and have a mental technique  to deal with the anxiety.
 I use  Frank Herbert’s litany against fear:
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

Why don't you shut up and go back to lurking.
And don't lift mantras from science fiction novels.

[Raymondo]

Can I set up an appointment with you next week please....my shrink is out of town

no problem, wes. I'm sure you've got some interesting stories to tell 

[wes]

no problem, wes. I'm sure you've got some interesting stories to tell 

They`d probably fry your brain!  LOL 

[wes]

Why don't you shut up and go back to lurking.
And don't lift mantras from science fiction novels.

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Why don't you shut up and go back to lurking.
And don't lift mantras from science fiction novels.

Most lurkers have a fear of posting

[BIG ACH]

I think this is the little fucker who tried to buttfuck me!  LOL 

I dunno what it is about it, but that picture freaks the shit out of me, and I've had scary dreams after seeing that picture and about it.

I've never had that awake paralysis, but I've had some very vivid dreams, especially when I was taking sleep aids like GABBA, some nightmares seemed so so so real, I've also had this reoccurring dream where I'm stuck in my childhood  apartment with a wild animal trying to kill me, one time its a tiger, one time a lion, once a raptor, once a T Rex, once a bear, once a wild bull, etc  I wake up in a freaking pool of sweat!  Whack!

[Marty Champions]

what you dream is a reflection of the lessons from choices you must learn. lessons in life or lessons in dream world. you havent learned to submit to the wolf or to claim your innocensce. you just cower in fear at his presence thus your fear overrides your intellectual abilities to get out of the situation immediatley, your level of intellecutally only acheives a delayed response.

same with people getting sleep paralysis

if you carry guilt you will not break away from this soon enough, it will be a delayed response. When you plead for mercy and have made the right choices in the real world---into the dream state this will transfer and you will have everything already worked out in your mind in the dream state and only have good dreams...then the occasional guilt met with fear test in the form of night terror may occur but it wont be prolonged because you already truly lived and beleive you are living a rhiteous path, not just live right for yourself or family but all living things and animals and the earth you live on from here on out, all the activities must be done on this earth in good faith that it will work out for everyone and everything in order for your head to be "all worked out"

[ironneck]

im surprised that so many of you have that same shit happening!

my grandmother told me she saw creatures and became depressive after that, but shes too old and not smart enough to know that its only that shit we're talking about, she thinks it was real!


what i notice is that i have that much more often when i take ephedrine or other drugs! maybe this is why so many bodybuilders have that?

[Jussup]

Why don't you shut up and go back to lurking.
And don't lift mantras from science fiction novels.

Because I felt you could need a little help with your fuzzy dream theories and obvious lack of experience (as regards dreaming and mantras).

Most lurkers have a fear of posting

I only post when I have something meaningful to contribute and deep knowledge about the topic being discussed. Unfortunately this excludes the majority of Getbig topics like which supermodel should I bang tonight, "where to invest 20 millions" or "am I gay because..", but I still enjoy reading them.

[NotMrAverage]

I have epilepticus and have one medicine called "lamotrigin". It will make you lucid dreaming like a fuck. Awesome with sex dreams. Now go get some!

[Raymondo]

Because I felt you could need a little help with your fuzzy dream theories and obvious lack of experience (as regards dreaming and mantras).
I only post when I have something meaningful to contribute and deep knowledge about the topic being discussed. Unfortunately this excludes the majority of Getbig topics like which supermodel should I bang tonight, "where to invest 20 millions" or "am I gay because..", but I still enjoy reading them.

Well them, aren't we lucky to have an astral projecting, Carlos Castaneda reading, Dune quoting gentleman like you.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

For all the deep thinkers and Lucid dreamers who haven't seen the movie Vanilla Sky. Its worth a watch.