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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2012, 08:16:53 AM »
Also of note, Intrade had odds of repeal at 70% so 180 can shut up about it accurately predicting anything.

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2012, 08:19:56 AM »
If it's a tax and congress has the power to tax then can't they just repeal the tax and kill it?


Cantor announces the House will begin repeal of Obamacare on July 9. GOP Scheduling a repeal now that it is confirmed by the highest court as a TAX. Romney about to deliver a live response.  Roberts implied he didn’t necessarily deem ACA as fair or wise, he just punted it back to the leg. branch

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2012, 08:27:22 AM »
Oh yea. Their health care is so much better than ours. And their economy has always been better.

Get the hell out of here you idiot. If you don't like personal freedom that is a big personal problem that you have to live with. Why don't you move to Europe?

What personel freedom? The freedom that make Healthcare companies the richest coorporations in the world while simultaniously denying coverage to kids? I would prefer freedom with the fat cats being a little less chubby and our kids alive and healthy.

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2012, 08:30:31 AM »
When the British have to issue a directive telling their nurses to give their patients water due to dozens of people dying from dehydration then you have a problem with your healthcare.

Not that it matters as soon enough there won't be any money to pay for Obamacare anyway.


Atleast they issued the directive it would be worse if they didnt no? :)

Do you have a source?

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2012, 08:32:22 AM »
What personel freedom? The freedom that make Healthcare companies the richest coorporations in the world while simultaniously denying coverage to kids? I would prefer freedom with the fat cats being a little less chubby and our kids alive and healthy.


HEY ASSHOLE - OBAMACARE FORCES YOU INTO PRIVATE CONTRACTS AND COMMERCE WITH THESE SAME COMPANIES YOU CLAME TO HATE W NO COST CONTROL! 

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2012, 08:34:07 AM »

HEY ASSHOLE - OBAMACARE FORCES YOU INTO PRIVATE CONTRACTS AND COMMERCE WITH THESE SAME COMPANIES YOU CLAME TO HATE W NO COST CONTROL! 

What do you mean by no cost control?

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2012, 08:36:00 AM »
What do you mean by no cost control?

There is no limit to the premiums they can charge and when the govt forces them to cover more and more shit no one wants, the carriers will jack the rates even higher! 

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2012, 08:37:22 AM »
There is no limit to the premiums they can charge and when the govt forces them to cover more and more shit no one wants, the carriers will jack the rates even higher! 

There was no limit to the premiums before neither so...?

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2012, 08:38:37 AM »
Also of note, Intrade had odds of repeal at 70% so 180 can shut up about it accurately predicting anything.

what is repeal defined as?   A "bill" that removed PART of it?   Some cannot be repealed - only the parts requiring funding can be ended by congress.

I think many people forget obamacare was

   1) Ratified by a republican house
   2) Ratified by the senate and president
   3) Confirmed as constitutional by Supreme Court
   4) modeled after Romneycare
   5) 'okay for states by not for nation', right?  now SCOTUS disagrees.

THe bill sucks, the repubs have no alternative, and this is now the law of the land.

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2012, 08:41:13 AM »

HEY ASSHOLE - OBAMACARE FORCES YOU INTO PRIVATE CONTRACTS AND COMMERCE WITH THESE SAME COMPANIES YOU CLAME TO HATE W NO COST CONTROL! 
Meltdown.

Hahaha.

Release the all caps fury name calling.

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2012, 08:41:27 AM »

HEY ASSHOLE - OBAMACARE FORCES YOU INTO PRIVATE CONTRACTS AND COMMERCE WITH THESE SAME COMPANIES YOU CLAME TO HATE W NO COST CONTROL! 

HAHAHAHAH!!

whork is such a blind idiot, he actually believes that this reform is better.

Hey, whorkmoron. The personal freedom is not to be forced, NOR PENALIZED, by the government for not buying a certain product. It was supposed to be unconstitutional.

Five stooges today went against that American ideal and it is beyond pathetic that you would accept it.

Another thing, if it's a "tax", then anyone under $250k can be taxed. ANOTHER BROKEN PROMISE by the clowninchief.  I love how you ignore that fact.

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2012, 08:41:48 AM »
There was no limit to the premiums before neither so...?

 ::)  ::)

Whatever - you are fucking clueless and blind to reality of all this.  

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2012, 08:44:15 AM »

Atleast they issued the directive it would be worse if they didnt no? :)

Do you have a source?

So you are ok with rationing and government directives? You are ok with the government when and how much medical attention you are entitled to.

HEHEHEHE!!

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2012, 08:45:50 AM »
Yes Europe has crap health care  ::)

LOL...isn't Europe's economy collapsing at the moment, and trying to take the whole world down with it too?

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« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2012, 08:51:32 AM »
There was no limit to the premiums before neither so...?

How you figure? When, before this decision, you can pick any number of health carriers if you don't like the premium you were paying.

Now with this monstrosity, premiums will spiral more out of control than ever before and many people who like their carrier won't be able to keep them. Add on top of that the numerous employers who might opt out instead of paying the exorbitant premiums.

You think this is great. Think about this, sparky. GOVERNMENT HAS NEVER BEEN ABLE TO EFFICIENTLY RUN A SOCIAL PROGRAM. Not Medicare, not medicaid, not social security. Nothing. The post office is doing great. RIGHT?? Everyone of them is either going broke or eventually will bankrupt. And now the government has a stangle hold on our health care. HEHEHEHEHEH!  

This is a disaster.

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2012, 08:52:38 AM »
LOL...isn't Europe's economy collapsing at the moment, and trying to take the whole world down with it too?

It is. But if you ask that nitwit, he will tell you that Bush did it.

Don't confuse him with facts. He might be from Greece.

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2012, 08:54:42 AM »
LOL...isn't Europe's economy collapsing at the moment, and trying to take the whole world down with it too?

Are their economic woes a result of their healthcare system?..

If so, please provide research.

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2012, 08:56:41 AM »
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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2012, 09:03:47 AM »

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2012, 09:05:54 AM »
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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2012, 09:07:23 AM »
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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2012, 09:08:43 AM »
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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2012, 09:09:23 AM »
lol 3333333

Its true - you know i fucking hate W.   W is the main reason we got Obama in the first place. 

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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2012, 09:11:07 AM »
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Re: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate
« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2012, 09:12:11 AM »
240. Is Ron Paul correct?

of course.  what did he say?

the tricky thing is that he probably would have been against civil rights act and a shitload of others.  risky terrirory there for appeasing voters.