Author Topic: Guilty till proven innocent.  (Read 3675 times)

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2013, 09:55:23 AM »
You would most likely, by force,  be placed in restraits and the sample would be taken from you.
well that ain't kosher.

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2013, 10:24:00 AM »

You'll have a problem with it now as it applies to you.

No......I have no problem with it, I'm not a fucking criminal.


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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2013, 10:29:29 AM »
No......I have no problem with it, I'm not a fucking criminal.



It's not about being a criminal, it's about invasion of your rights. If you can't see that, you're an idiot.
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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2013, 10:34:00 AM »
basically you just described Black people and the US legal system.  Guilty until proven innocent

he just described everyone except rich politicians, lobbyists and ceo's in the US legal system

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2013, 10:37:22 AM »
It's not about being a criminal, it's about invasion of your rights. If you can't see that, you're an idiot.
'Rights' are simply things other people allow you to have.

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2013, 10:42:50 AM »
'Rights' are simply things other people allow you to have.

Correct. They're privileges.
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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2013, 10:43:52 AM »
Correct. They're privileges.
And you earn privileges so they by definition are not a right.

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2013, 10:44:41 AM »
It's not about being a criminal, it's about invasion of your rights. If you can't see that, you're an idiot.

The sample is taken after you've been arrested.....here's a hint puffboy, don't get arrested.

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2013, 10:59:16 AM »
How does a swab of your cheek invade your rights? I guess you're talking about your "right" to get away with past and future crimes.
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The method of how they obtain your DNA has nothing to so with whether your rights are being invaded.

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2013, 01:19:52 PM »
That is why it is considered a living document.  It can be altered through amendments to keep up with the times.   I don't find this a completely revolting idea considering the time it was written, as long as these amendments do not infringe on existing rights.

Archer, you are out of your element.

The Judiciary takes an oath to uphold the Constitution.  They should NEVER interpret it to mean something it does not specifically say.  That is what the Legislature is for.  A different branch.  Hence the separation of powers.

Scalia, a conservative, fully understands his charge.  Sadly, other Justices do not. 

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2013, 01:35:47 PM »
Court got this one correct. Ruling that it is akin to fingerprints, makes sense.

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Re: Guilty till proven innocent.
« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2013, 01:43:54 PM »
You would most likely, by force,  be placed in restraits and the sample would be taken from you.

tdongz would insist that they perform a rectal scraping instead
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