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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2013, 08:07:11 PM »
 Well, as a Christian.  I say I can't prove to you God exists.  But you can't prove to me he doesn't.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2013, 08:20:13 PM »
Well, as a Christian.  I say I can't prove to you God exists.  But you can't prove to me he doesn't.

thats great thanks

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2013, 08:24:44 PM »
they explain the nothing in the movie  Never Ending Story you fools




Oh fuck, I saw that in 6th grade on the last day of school.  :o

That movie mind fucked me pretty bad as a kid.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2013, 10:10:27 PM »
Can't even wrap my mind around infinite. Everything we know has limits. Maybe the religious people are right?  :-\
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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2013, 10:49:24 PM »
You guys always changing your stance, lololol. The Bible never changes and has been and always will be right.
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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2013, 10:54:16 PM »
Can't even wrap my mind around infinite. Everything we know has limits. Maybe the religious people are right?  :-\

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Open a Bible or go to Bible study and you'll see that we aren't kooks after all.
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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2013, 10:55:58 PM »
Welcome to Getbig "Las Vegas"

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2013, 10:58:16 PM »
From what I understand, this is a possible explanation for the bias towards the creation of more matter than antimatter at the moment of creation (the big bang)...  not a reconsideration of the big bang theory.

The big bang theory is both liked and disliked by creationists; liked because it suggests a beginning of time and moment of creation, and disliked because it explains the origin of the universe and fits into a timeline of the universe being more than a mere 6000 years old. Make up your minds!
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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2013, 11:00:13 PM »
It's crazy, my brain can't fathom "nothing" as it existed before the universe. What did nothing look like, was it empty space, or was there not even that? Where did it all come from, and what created it. Shit is wild.

Do you remember what it was like before you were born?


There you got ;D  thats nothing!

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2013, 11:56:13 PM »
Can't even wrap my mind around infinite. Everything we know has limits. Maybe the religious people are right?  :-\

of course you cant. you are a moron.


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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2013, 11:57:43 PM »
humans only put up models to explain phenomenon that coincide with discovery and allow accurate predictions.

each model is better than the last, and arguably, none are ever right.

its as simple as that.

they are always being refined as we learn more.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2013, 12:03:02 AM »
Wait...what? Science can't get it right? Say it ain't so. Mmmm, I guess there's only one other explanation!!!

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2013, 12:42:11 AM »
In before the classic meltdown including an extra-terrestrial Obama and glute shots.  ::)

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2013, 12:46:02 AM »
getbig.com, is probably not the best place to discuss/discover the meaning of the universe.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2013, 02:24:50 AM »
this thread is just full of bad science - light speed cannot be exceeded if you move at light speed away from a photon going the other way (at light speed) you would measure it going at light speed (NOT 2X light speed) - why? because time is relative, time slows down for you thus making your measurement of speed slower.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2013, 02:29:50 AM »
Well, as a Christian.  I say I can't prove to you God exists.  But you can't prove to me he doesn't.

I also can't prove to you that a pink unicorn that speaks Gaelic, sounds like Morgan Freeman and farts cotton candy doesn't exist either...

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2013, 02:47:17 AM »
this thread is just full of bad science - light speed cannot be exceeded if you move at light speed away from a photon going the other way (at light speed) you would measure it going at light speed (NOT 2X light speed) - why? because time is relative, time slows down for you thus making your measurement of speed slower.

It's more accurate to say that the speed of light cannot be exceeded by anything that has mass, at least according to our current understanding of physics.

I would normally type a quite long post discussing things like Lorentz invariance, the Poynting-Robertson effect, static fields, aberration and other fancy things but it's almost 4:00am. Suffice it to say that gravity, as we understand it, can propagate at speeds that are far, far faster than the speed of light. In quantum mechanics too, things like "spooky action at a distance" (aka quantum entanglement) can propagate at superluminal speeds.

With all that said, I'd love to see new breakthroughs in physics - the kind that people like Einstein, Heisenberg, Maxwell, Bohr, Feynman, Gell-Mann, Fermi and so many others gave us. If old theories were inaccurate and/or incomplete I wont be sad either. I'll be giddy with excitement and way too busy studying the new ones and trying to apply them in practice.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #42 on: August 05, 2013, 03:01:39 AM »
Is that a TV show??
A very badly written, and terribly cliche ridden show...If God exists, he sure is taking  his merry old sweet time in making it go away...

And the replacement maybe "New Physics Theory" where Mayim Bialik and America Ferrera (Ugly Betty) are two single Applied Physicists who pain the town and the lecture halls red...

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #43 on: August 05, 2013, 03:15:29 AM »
It's crazy, my brain can't fathom "nothing" as it existed before the universe. What did nothing look like, was it empty space, or was there not even that? Where did it all come from, and what created it. Shit is wild.

There was always something.

Every time your mind fails to fathom this "nothing", remember - that's something made up by idiots.

Whilst there is no necessity that physics is the same outside this universe, throughout our own universe the law that energy can not be created or destroyed remains in place.

This means every single scrap of energy you are composed of WILL exist on.

And you are only composed of energy.

Everything that you are will exist until the end of time.

Baring that in mind (that there is no such mechanic to "destroy" even a single joule of energy in this universe), which is more likely, nothing - or always something?

Or believe in God.  He's not real, but that doesn't matter to most people.  They read that physicists are rethinking their idea of the first nanosecond of the universe and think that proves their fake deity is real.  I find their close minded, morose summaries of nothing-news (and it is the type of physics news we read on DAY TO DAY basis, in the real world - where ideas can be debated and rethought).

There is no surety in the origins of your existence - believing in bullshit that deep down, you know is wrong won't change that.  Just makes you look like a dick when you take the speck of a pop culture physics article and attempt to discredit hundreds of years of very very accurate work.  Absolutely nothing you currently sit infront of would be working, had a physicist not absolutely nailed the science involved.

Unbelievable - one article and god is real ::)






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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #44 on: August 05, 2013, 03:50:36 AM »
This is why they re called THEORIES...

As opposed to dogma.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #45 on: August 05, 2013, 04:02:22 AM »
this thread is just full of bad science - light speed cannot be exceeded if you move at light speed away from a photon going the other way (at light speed) you would measure it going at light speed (NOT 2X light speed) - why? because time is relative, time slows down for you thus making your measurement of speed slower.

Wasn't going to chime in here much because I come here to ESCAPE science, not talk about it. But current (yes, I know, it's going away) "big bang" theory has the original bang expanding at quite a bit more than C. This was traditionally accepted because "mumble, mumble" the laws of this universe (love that multiverse theory) state that the speed of light is fixed and inviolate, but those laws were not yet baked into the universe at the time.

In any event, it's an exciting time for the next 20 years of so in physics. I just need to continue to encourage my son, who, at 10, has determined that HE will be the one to "figure out" the standard model of gravity. Love his moxie.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #46 on: August 05, 2013, 04:29:34 AM »
I just need to continue to encourage my son, who, at 10, has determined that HE will be the one to "figure out" the standard model of gravity. Love his moxie.

Great stuff - that sounds like a decent son.

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #47 on: August 05, 2013, 05:11:22 AM »
So what I gathered from this thread is that a catabolic priest created the big bang ???

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2013, 05:29:55 AM »
There was always something.

Every time your mind fails to fathom this "nothing", remember - that's something made up by idiots.

Whilst there is no necessity that physics is the same outside this universe, throughout our own universe the law that energy can not be created or destroyed remains in place.

This means every single scrap of energy you are composed of WILL exist on.

And you are only composed of energy.

Everything that you are will exist until the end of time.

Baring that in mind (that there is no such mechanic to "destroy" even a single joule of energy in this universe), which is more likely, nothing - or always something?

Or believe in God.  He's not real, but that doesn't matter to most people.  They read that physicists are rethinking their idea of the first nanosecond of the universe and think that proves their fake deity is real.  I find their close minded, morose summaries of nothing-news (and it is the type of physics news we read on DAY TO DAY basis, in the real world - where ideas can be debated and rethought).

There is no surety in the origins of your existence - believing in bullshit that deep down, you know is wrong won't change that.  Just makes you look like a dick when you take the speck of a pop culture physics article and attempt to discredit hundreds of years of very very accurate work.  Absolutely nothing you currently sit infront of would be working, had a physicist not absolutely nailed the science involved.

Unbelievable - one article and god is real ::)







Where did the "something" come from? And believe me, I'm not sure about god, as I don't go to church and find it hard to believe, especially in the form we are lead to believe. It's just interesting to think that there was a beginning, but at what point?

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Re: Science does it again: Big Bang going out the window?
« Reply #49 on: August 05, 2013, 05:34:54 AM »
Where did the "something" come from? And believe me, I'm not sure about god, as I don't go to church and find it hard to believe, especially in the form we are lead to believe. It's just interesting to think that there was a beginning, but at what point?

Why did it have to come from anything? Perhaps the nature of existence is 'something' rather than 'nothing.'
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