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Re: What is wrong with people like Kovacs, Nasser, Atwood etc...
« Reply #150 on: November 26, 2013, 08:07:17 PM »

colin cowherd

6'2 180 lbs under 50 years old and always exercised and ate relatively healthy, always vocal about how disgusting fat people are

he had a mild heart attack a few years ago



do you really think it's healthy to regularly eat fast food as long as you aren't fat?

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Now its gotten even stranger.

The guy you posted, Colin Cowherd, is still alive.   Oops!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Cowherd





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Re: What is wrong with people like Kovacs, Nasser, Atwood etc...
« Reply #151 on: November 26, 2013, 08:14:37 PM »

Lovely teeth and eyes, to be fair!
to be even more fair, check the fashionable eyebrows, the man goes with the times ;D

yah, che made a good point, sudden death over long illness.

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Re: What is wrong with people like Kovacs, Nasser, Atwood etc...
« Reply #152 on: November 27, 2013, 01:22:12 AM »
I see we have an intellectual here.

I'm far from being intellectual. But I would take a  bet  that I earn more money than you, own a nicer house than you and have a better life than you. So for all intents and purposes, I'm smarter than you.

It is very obvious from your posts, that you are one of life's victims, someone who has been fucked over by life and left cynical and bitter and full of negativity. You have nothing positive to say about anything or anyone.

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« Reply #153 on: November 27, 2013, 06:16:43 AM »
Still, it doesnt or wont prevent millions of dumb people to keep following the same path.

Having a body dysmorphia has nothing to do with intelligence. There are doctors, lawyers, managers who are competitive BBs or take it to the extreme and none of them are dumb.

Being prone to a body dismorphia has nothing to do with your educational background, your social status or your sexual orientation. It can cath anyone.

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Re: What is wrong with people like Kovacs, Nasser, Atwood etc...
« Reply #154 on: November 27, 2013, 06:32:56 AM »
LOl I admire your passion but give it another 5 or 6 years, a kid or two, people who love you and rely on you. Body dismorphia will take the back seat. Nasser, Gregg and many others who passed never had kids and shitty relationships. No coincidence.

This.  Bah!

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« Reply #155 on: November 27, 2013, 03:18:07 PM »
Oh I see...Eating "healthy" is bad since this guy did so and died at age 50.

Looks to me this is evidence in my favor, not yours.

Hope this helps.  :D

he's not dead, if you cared about sports other than bodybuilding you would know that

and he didn't eat unhealthy fast food on a regular basis like you

the point is it doesn't matter how "lean" you are, eating fast food all the time is very unhealthy and some day you mght be asking yourself "why did i always eat that fast food"

it isn't uncommon for a skinny person to have a heart attack as much as you like to think

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Re: What is wrong with people like Kovacs, Nasser, Atwood etc...
« Reply #156 on: November 27, 2013, 04:24:41 PM »
he's not dead, if you cared about sports other than bodybuilding you would know that

and he didn't eat unhealthy fast food on a regular basis like you

the point is it doesn't matter how "lean" you are, eating fast food all the time is very unhealthy and some day you mght be asking yourself "why did i always eat that fast food"

it isn't uncommon for a skinny person to have a heart attack as much as you like to think

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« Reply #157 on: November 27, 2013, 04:39:49 PM »
he's not dead, if you cared about sports other than bodybuilding you would know that

and he didn't eat unhealthy fast food on a regular basis like you

the point is it doesn't matter how "lean" you are, eating fast food all the time is very unhealthy and some day you mght be asking yourself "why did i always eat that fast food"

it isn't uncommon for a skinny person to have a heart attack as much as you like to think

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skinny people are more likely to have FATAL heart attacks then bigger people

this leads to the theory that heart attack has to do with a number of factors having to do with energy via different pathways

for the sake of time, ill simplify. skinny people die from heart attacks more often because there body lacks the nutritional supply needed to keep the heart going. fat people have more storage of vitamins to keep it going after a heart attack

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Re: What is wrong with people like Kovacs, Nasser, Atwood etc...
« Reply #158 on: November 27, 2013, 09:16:55 PM »
skinny people are more likely to have FATAL heart attacks then bigger people

this leads to the theory that heart attack has to do with a number of factors having to do with energy via different pathways

for the sake of time, ill simplify. skinny people die from heart attacks more often because there body lacks the nutritional supply needed to keep the heart going. fat people have more storage of vitamins to keep it going after a heart attack



I'd rather be lean and take my chances then be fat.

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« Reply #159 on: Today at 04:25:44 AM »
I think Adonis has a point with this thread even if the timing is insensitive, plenty of guys myself included stopped bodybuilding due to drug use of having to go to a level where you just feel it could create problems.
Its a shame that so many guys are now dropping from competing in a federation where they abused drugs to meet the criteria of the competition.


Just lift, eat good food, stay healthy and drug free and do the best you can....It's what I've been preaching for 50 years. Steroids and ego ruined this sport starting mostly in the early 60's.

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« Reply #160 on: Today at 04:27:01 AM »
Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics?  Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons?  What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?

Lmao! TA is missed by many

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« Reply #161 on: Today at 05:56:23 AM »
Epic dig.

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« Reply #162 on: Today at 07:41:26 AM »
Are they really just stupid and think they are above human genetics?  Is there not anyone that cares about them enough to call them morons?  What do doctors say when they go to the hospital?

Nasser, you were robbed of the Olympia title at least twice.

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« Reply #163 on: Today at 08:07:11 AM »
People underestimate the neurochemical activity of AAS. They indirectly increase dopamine signaling by binding to neuronal androgen receptors in key reward-related brain regions.

This facilitates dopamine bursts tied to specific behaviors (like working out and strutting around in a string top, arms spread wide in a shameless display of ILS)

In other words, motivation becomes context-dependent. Dopamine neurons over-respond to particular triggers. As a result, the gym rat become more addicted to his gym rat lifestyle and Big Man identity, not to PEDs themselves (unlike stimulant drugs like coke or amohetamines, which produce massive baseline dopamine spikes)

Inevitably, the brain compensates by lowering baseline dopamine.

Responsiveness to natural rewards collapses when the drug is removed. Paired with joys of going hypogonadal, it's easy to see how addiction begins to lurk in the backround..

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« Reply #164 on: Today at 09:33:27 AM »
People underestimate the neurochemical activity of AAS. They indirectly increase dopamine signaling by binding to neuronal androgen receptors in key reward-related brain regions.

This facilitates dopamine bursts tied to specific behaviors (like working out and strutting around in a string top, arms spread wide in a shameless display of ILS)

In other words, motivation becomes context-dependent. Dopamine neurons over-respond to particular triggers. As a result, the gym rat become more addicted to his gym rat lifestyle and Big Man identity, not to PEDs themselves (unlike stimulant drugs like coke or amohetamines, which produce massive baseline dopamine spikes)

Inevitably, the brain compensates by lowering baseline dopamine.

Responsiveness to natural rewards collapses when the drug is removed. Paired with joys of going hypogonadal, it's easy to see how addiction begins to lurk in the backround..

Thank you, Dr. Huberman.

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« Reply #165 on: Today at 10:20:08 AM »
I'm in shape, get bloodwork, use moderate dosages..could a health problem sneak up on me? Sure. I knew that when I started.

This appears to be his obituary unfortunately.

TA called him out and this was his response.

https://www.copelandhammerl.com/obituaries/Nicholas-John-Toscani?obId=6501673

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« Reply #166 on: Today at 10:26:17 AM »
This appears to be his obituary unfortunately.

TA called him and this was his response.

https://www.copelandhammerl.com/obituaries/Nicholas-John-Toscani?obId=6501673

Sounded like a true dago

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« Reply #167 on: Today at 11:49:46 AM »
Thank you, Dr. Huberman.

Don't forget to double inhale and long exhale whenever you come across one of Musclebuff's posts.

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« Reply #168 on: Today at 11:55:31 AM »
Don't forget to double inhale and long exhale whenever you come across one of Musclebuff's posts.

Thank you, Dr. Moops!  ;D

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« Reply #171 on: Today at 12:53:48 PM »
Its a mental disorder.  Like girls who only fuck coloreds

LOL!

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